Mini 416 - AM Mafia - Game Over D:

[Elias_the_thief]

*_*_*_* Vote Count - 6:20:11 AM *_*_*_*

"Sometimes troubled sleep is a sign of a troubled mind. " ~ www.thesleepshopappleton.com

Panzerjager -2- (Jingolaw, CoG888)
Jingolaw -1- (Panzerjager)
Not voting -3- (Fircoal, Elias_The_Thief, Cpt_Fantastic)

With 6 alive, it takes

4

to lynch.
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Cpt, do you realize that TSQ ia dead already?

[PJ.]

Mod: Replace CPT please. He just voted for a dead guy and claimed he knew what he was doing.

[Skruffs]

Fircoal has requested replacement - if I can get two replacees, I will also replace Cpt.

[Guardian]

I'm probably gonna be replacing in for fircoal. I have not yet (re)read the game completely, so I have no idea what fircoal's perceived or actual alignment is. Watch out, scum/town, depending on the PM Skruffs sends me!

!

[PJ.]

Wait until you get your role to act scummy.

[Guardian]

[bm]don't worry I always act scummy. i am therefore probably town[/bm]
lol, I just wanted to get acting scummy out of my system for this thread .

[Skruffs]

Guardian has received his role, and is replacing Fircoal, ASAP! PLEASE Welcome him in - perhaps some recaps would be good for discussoin.

[Guardian]

Hey guys!

I just got my role, and I am Pro-Work aligned, whatever that means.

I think it means that I am a townie? I don't have partners or anything. If my predecessors did any claiming, or anything else you think I should be particularly accountable for, if you could link me to it that would be great. I will do my complete reread and analysis when I return from errands today!

:hugz:
Guardian

[PJ.]

why would you come out saying your supposed alignment. Are you paranoid?

Unvote, Major FoS

I suggest you be very careful because fircoal didn't leave on the most town note.

[Elias_the_thief]

Im pretty sure that players entered the game with a pretty much automatic protown alignment claim. I dont find this particularly scummy, though a little unnecessary, almost as if he was playing a noob kind of move and just claiming townie outright. More weird then scummy in my opinion. whats with the "major" fos, panzer?

[Guardian]

Well, unless Skruffs is crazy we are at lylo. And I posted that as soon as I read my role PM to try and let you guys know that that was my immediate reaction upon getting it. Everyone else came up as Anti-Sleep, and my PM says Pro-Work, so I though that that might be slightly different?

Though you have commented upon me, you haven't given me much information in terms of if there is anything I need to address; I will start the read as soon as I get time for it (things came up today unexpectedly) but if there is anything at which my attention should be directed I would like to know what it is! Panzer, you say fircoal left badly; maybe it will be obvious to me in my re-read, but if not then I'd like to know what you are thinking.

I may do the full read now before sleeping... if so, then expect many posts in a row.

[PJ.]

His original post screamed scum and then after i called him out on it he calls out i'm town. The being town is assumed. For some reason he felt the need to claim town which is ridiculous. No votes were on him. He then tries to play it off. I dislike his play and he has been here for 3 post. It's sounds like nervous scum to me.

[Guardian]

Two things I want to mention before I do a full re-read (I did a super quick skim to get the gist of who was lynched and who was on wagons)

1) I guess only one or two players were called Anti-Sleep instead of Pro-Work, so that's a null tell, I didn't know this though.
2) Why are we not voting no lynch at lylo with almost certainly 2 scum and 4 town? There have been only, what 2 power roles, and both were one shot. If I missed any important claims that make this bogus, I will address this after the re-read, but 4 town + 2 scum seems like an easy no lynch and see if anything useful happens at night scenario. Obviously, before we do that, I want to get my thoughts out there on the players.

*goes to read*

[Guardian]

Well... Reading this game was annoying. And the last few pages were crucial, what with two claims and night happenings.

I am unsure as to whether no lynch is the play. I am thinking not... If Panzer is a roleblocker, he could get lucky and buy us an extra day with a block, even if we mess up now. If there are two roleblocker... well, then one of them hasn't come out in the open and is scum :[.

Scum combos:

Capt_Fantastic with
Cog works.
Elias works.
Jingolaw works.
Panzer really works.

CoG888 with
Elias works.
Jingolaw really works.
Panzerjager doesn't work.

Elias_the_thief with
Jingolaw works.
PanzerJager doesn't work

Jingolaw with
Panzerjager doesn't work.

Really, anyone + Cpt Fan seems appealing....

Ripley left his random vote on the day one lynch all day, and came up with no original reasoning for it. He also actively lurked. Also, Cpt_Fantastic's vote on shea to me reeks of scum not caring who they lynch. With four to lynch and zero danger of a quick lynch off of one vote, I will

vote: Cpt_Fantastic

.

[Guardian]

Yeah... I did a re-read of today's posts, and I still feel good about giving CF the axe. His scum partner I am unsure about (I hesitate to post my reasons about other players because then if I am NK'd it gets all WIFOM), but CF looks like a good lynch to me.

If Panzer and Cog are town with true claims, I have very, very good ideas of who they should target tonight, both if CF comes up scum (I am very hopeful of this) or if CF comes up town. I hesitate to suggest directing them; all I ask is that they consider very carefully what the play should be.

Wait a second.... Today is day four!!! They only claimed two night actions each!!! WTF!?

unvote

. I still feel OK about CF, but

heavy FOS: Cog and Panzer

.

[PJ.]

Guardian, I claimed three. You are very bad a reading but CoG only claimed two. Kudos for catching that. I think CF is a newbie lynch. I am suspicious of the person you pick is the newbie in his first game. He simply is a newbie, which is a null tell. He could be bad scum or bad town.

[Guardian]

Yeah, I think CoG (and you?) only claiming two is very sketchy...

I don't know man. All I know is I blocked PBuG night 2. and I pretty sure I blocked Ripley Night 1. I don't know what happeneed to you night 1.

I missed where you claimed a third, even when re-reading your posts and searching for the text "block". Could you link/quote where you posted three?

Right now my bet for scum is Jingo along with CPT.Fantastic. Most of why I think CPT. is scum was lost in the crash and he has resorted to lurking and laying very low.

But now you are very suspicious of me for going after CPT, when I say it looks like he could possibly be scum with any other player? Especially when my reasons for going after him are linked heavily to Ripley's play? Please explain.

[CoG888]

I targeted Pbug night one, no result
I targeted Elias night two, no result
I targeted Panzer night three, he targeted TSQ (who died that night)

Gaurdian, I really don't like your tone. You come out swinging before you even read the thread. No lynch? Why would you even suggest that before reading the game? Directing night kills? What, are you fishing for more power roles?

You and Panzer could be Scum together.

[Guardian]

Elias, did you in fact not have any night targets night two?

Panzer, for this following theory to be true, you need to have targeted someone other than TSQ last night. Obvioulsy, I will not believe you unless you quote where you said this earlier (I still can't find it).

Theory:

Cog, you are definitely scum.

Here's why. You said Panzer must be the mafia role blocker, who blocked you night one and PBug night two and night killed TSQ night three. This is plain crap. A mafia roleblocker would have his goon buddy target the victim, and use his roleblock on someone. Even if you are saying that he targeted TSQ with the roleblock and the kill, he would have had to target him AND roleblock him. That just makes no sense for a mafia member to do.

Panzer pretty much can't be scum if you are scum imo. I am thinking strongly that Cog and Cpt fan must be the scum pairing for the reasons I outlined.

No votes though, until Panzer shows me where he claimed a night three action...

I actually am almost more comfortable with killing CPT fan first, still, since he + panzer OR he + Cog make the most sense right now to me. Even though it might mean a powerful role gets NK'd, I almost think we should mass claim...

Thoughts on all this?

[Skruffs]

*_*_*_* Vote Count - 6:22:43 AM *_*_*_*

"Who are you? And what are you doing in my bed?" ~ Caspian

Panzerjager -2- (Jingolaw, CoG888)
Jingolaw -1- (Panzerjager)
Not voting -3- (Guardian, Elias_The_Thief, Jack)

With 6 alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Cpt_Fantastic has been replaced by Jack, commencing as soon as Jack confirms and posts here. Thank you, Jack! Everyone say "Thank you, Guardian and Jack!"

[Jack]

Confirm. Will read.

For now I will

vote:TSQ

[Jack]

unvote,Vote:panzerjager

I've played with CoG before and (no offense CoG) he's not smart enough to come up with that as scum (I wouldn't either, not insulting you here CoG). His claim matches his behavior from way back in the game.

taking CoG's claim as true, pj must have been lying about his role. 2 kills night one means 2 scum groups killed (vig was already dead). pbug was scum and CoG got no result, ergo CoG must have been blocked. pj claims have not blocked CoG, therefore pj is lying. He's also acted scummy all game and his "deleted pm's" excuse is ridiculous.

Cog, you are definitely scum.
...
Panzer pretty much can't be scum if you are scum imo. I am thinking strongly that Cog and Cpt fan must be the scum pairing for the reasons I outlined.

Guardian is pretty clearly pj's scumbuddy.

[Guardian]

not hammering. either I am scum with panzer (not true) or I am not scum.

I still think Jack and Cog are the scum group. Either way someone should unvote, I think Jack is scum and this sucks .

[Jack]

Look at this exchange:

OK then, I think you are scum, and I think you had something to do with TSQ's death. So, what were you doing with him last night?

What do you mean what was I doing with him last night. Is that a tracker claim? And I was roleblocking him thinking he could be a godfather. I Roleblocked PBuG Night 2. And Ripley Night 1 which is now CPT. Fantastic.

pj's response looks like scum who has just realized he got caught. Also, godfather makes no sense given the game setup, and I don't see why he would choose to block TSQ.

pj jumps all over guardian when he enters the game, looks like distancing to me.

[Guardian]

Look, Jack, that's great and all, but I think you are scum. I think I caught Cog in a lie, and I think your predecessor's actions were obviously scummy.

Panzer getting lynched today looks like it will result in a town loss, to me.