Open 498: Fire and Ice Mafia (Game Over)

[uctriton00]

Here's what Cheery Dog wrote, a townie:

"We don't have any caught scum? Well except you using that as a defence. You put effort into one of the ISOs - which would happen to be the one that you don't want connected to yourself. The only thing actually in there is that you assume dragonfly's buddy wouldn't have bussed him."

[BROseidon]

Hawk/dragon ISOs have less shit. Can't discern much of anything from hawk's iso. From dragonfly's, I don't think morton is scumbuddy with him (thus morton is town), nor do I think mala is scumbuddy with him, nor do I think mvmafia is scumbuddy with him. If I default remove everyone from the wagon as well (should have done this first, really), that leaves...

Cheery and Guille...

Cheery does have the strange interaction at the start with hawk which could have been setting up a later bus, but I'm not nearly as confident about this. Maybe commando or ucitron bussed on day 1? Does that happen a lot in this setup?

Either way, I am very confident that I've hit scum.

Except I did the other ISO.

You're argument is bad and you should feel bad.

[uctriton00]

And why would he make a kill that so obviously points to him as scum?

I just don't think there's enough evidence

I don't know, but isn't that what mafia is all about? WIFOM?

[Klick]

And why would he make a kill that so obviously points to him as scum?

I just don't think there's enough evidence

I don't know, but isn't that what mafia is all about? WIFOM?

Not always. I just know that I'm not going to put my trust in a WIFOM argument.

[uctriton00]

You're argument is bad and you should feel bad.

So here's what I'm wondering Broseidon, why am I not a good lynch candidate for you? Town Broseidon would be like:

1. Triton is constantly trying to lynch a townie
2. Triton has claimed he's not the PR, so if we're wrong, it's not the worst in the world, and any info is at least good info

You even said you'd be willing to lynch someone (MVM) just to get a lynch, implying you just want some info for the Day 3 lynch, instead of any chance of a no lynch.

Why not me?

[T-Bone]

uct, t-bone, and guille, can you guys put your votes somewhere useful, because otherwise I'll just jump on the mvm wagon to get the lynch.

And you wonder why people think you're scum. You say things like that.

Tell you what, you can sheep me though because I hate UCT's circle argument about the nightkill and it magically involving him.

[BROseidon]

Why not me?

Because having a shitty case is null. Latching onto a shitty case is scummy.

[BROseidon]

And you wonder why people think you're scum. You say things like that.

Because there is no scum motivation in trying to stall out a no-lynch. Wait...

[uctriton00]

We only do have one day and some odd hours, and the only person I'm willing to move onto that I feel any kind of gut on would be guile.

[T-Bone]

I could maybe be convinced of MVM. Not my top choice. His posts recently I don't feel like are scum motivated.

[penguin_alien]

Prodding penguin_alien...oh wait, that's me. No change in VC. Deadline in a bit over a day.

[Dreams of Grandeur]

Just to reiterate for anyone who wants to ride my wagon:

1. I start discussing bro
2. Bro hammers a wagon all of a sudden
3. Doctor sees Bro did that rather suspiciously
4. Doctor protects me
5. Bro tries to kill me
6. Bro fails
7. Bro instead of going after me tries to go after someone else, which in this case is guile again

1 and 2 are the only facts, 3 through 7 are all conjecture.

i think that 3-7 are a little ridiculous and egotistical

[Dreams of Grandeur]

The only issue I see with that is, why exactly would BRO want to kill you?

that's the only issue?

[Dreams of Grandeur]

So you're case is that I had a bad hammer, and then a shitton of conjecture that nobody is attached to (which, by the way, includes the doctor).

You're case is shit.

maybe
but other people find you scummy for reasons and it's up to you to prove them wrong, not to prove their cases to be shit

[guille2015]

I'm caught up.

My top scum reads are on MvM, UCT and T-Bone. The last two are mostly by POE, and interchangeable, since I have a town read on everyone else. From my point of view, we just lynch those three in said order and we win. I liked T-Bones entry, so I'm ok with leaving him for last. I'd be very sad if any of my town reads are scum. But I'll deal with that later.

The things I noticed most about MvM and UCT is that MvM keeps talking about lynching fire mafia and UTC imagined a rather specific scenario to implicate Bro. Including the assertion that the Doc protected him, something that nobody should know. (even scum wouldn't know this, so I don't know what to make of this)

[BROseidon]

Guille...

One scum would know who they targeted, and know that person was protected by the doc (unless one scum did not submit an action which would be pretty wtf).

[BROseidon]

also

VOTE: mvmafia

Since Guille is townread by enough people that this lynch isn't happening.

[uctriton00]

can we seriously consider hammering GUILE now

god

[uctriton00]

i hate everything

Vote: mvmafia

[mvmafia]

thats it goodbye and good luck town.

Would watch for uct guille and klick.

[penguin_alien]

Locking thread, flip to come in a few hours...

[penguin_alien]

Space Fact #28:

Unlike Saturn's rings, Neptune's rings are unstable and fragmented; as such they are often referred to as arcs rather than rings.

Vote Count 3.07:

With 7 players living, it takes 4 to lynch!

mvmafia [L-0]: Dreams of Grandeur, Klick, BROseidon, uctriton00
BROseidon [L-4]:
T-Bone: [L-4]:
Dreams of Grandeur [L-4]:
guille2015 [L-3]: mvmafia
uctriton00 [L-3]: T-Bone
Klick [L-4]:

Not voting: guille2015

V/LA:

Deadline in (expired on 2013-07-05 10:16:50)

Day Three Lynch Flavor:

The meteoroids started the day's proceedings missing only one of their number--consigned to the icy depths of space or the heart of the fiery sun, who can say? All the same, they refocused their efforts on weeding out the interlopers. Suspicions mounted, and slowly the group arrived at a consensus. A majority effort was directed at a seemingly innocuous fellow meteoroid. The group would not be dissuaded, and suddenly the target found himself hurtling toward the same barren moon as the previous day's targets. Too bad he was neither dense nickel nor delicate ice--just an ordinary hunk of rock.

mvmafia, a Vanilla Townie,

has been lynched Day Three!

Night starts now. Actions are due in (expired on 2013-07-07 00:55:12). Please note that I may not be able to get the start of Day Four until a few hours after deadline because of when we're entering night, but it should be up in < 12 hours from night ending--I won't forget about y'all!

[penguin_alien]

Night Three Flavor:

The crowd was starting to thin. The survivors subsided after their burst of activity to contemplate their options for the next day. They knew what the interlopers looked like from earlier banishments--surely they would be able to pinpoint more of the troublemakers come morning.

But those unique meteoroids were not content merely to sit back and wait to be ferreted out. No, they had their own work to do overnight. Each working individually, they found targets to exile from the comet's wake, the better to establish themselves as the prettiest meteoroids in the group. One nudge and an ordinary hunk of rock went flying. Another nudge and a slightly less ordinary hunk of rock was sailing away. Into the sun, into the depths of space, what does it matter? They won't be around to distract from the meteoroids of exceptional composition any longer...

BROseidon, a Vanilla Townie

has been killed Night Three!

Dreams of Grandeur, the Town Doctor

has been killed Night Three!

[penguin_alien]

Deadline will be in (expired on 2013-07-21 00:58:31)

Space Fact #29:

Venus's orbit has the lowest eccentricity of all the planets in our solar system: .0067

Vote Count 4.01:

With 4 players living, it takes 3 to lynch!

T-Bone: [L-3]:
guille2015 [L-3]:
uctriton00 [L-3]:
Klick [L-3]:

Not voting: T-Bone, guille2015, uctriton00, Klick

V/LA:

Deadline in (expired on 2013-07-21 00:58:31)

[BROseidon]

>:C