Open 242 - Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over!)

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

bah! after i was dead i knew it!!!!

so, anyway, why did i die exactly? I'm not usually the obvtown, or even very active. Just curious. Flattered, but curious.

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

looking back over, i mean seriously? i didn't do much of anything this game, and I only mentioned BM once, saying he seemed alright as town.

[Socrates]

The SSBF lynch day 1 was remarkable in the fact that it was almost entirely engineered by BM. Jordan proxied his vote to BM and almost every other vote on that wagon was sold as a compromise vote of some sort, and I think this is a perfect example of bussing scum seeing the scum motivations of their partner more clearly than a townie would, and being unwilling to see the pro-town perspective to their partner, since they know that interpretation to be untrue. It was funny looking in the quicktopics and seeing BM talk about how scummy SSBF was and how he brought it on himself, while in the mason quicktopic they expressed shock at the scum flip, they were so sure he was town.

Speaking of the quicktopics, both were barren wastelands without much discussion. The masons were killed off quickly, but both BM and Haylen stopped posting in the quicktopic entirely around night 3.

The town seemed to have had an activity problem right up until the very end of the game, though I ended up only replacing two people. This might have partially been my fault, as I wasn't as quick with the prods as I probably should have been. Looking back, I prodded BM quite a few times and I think I would have replaced him earlier on if I had to redo it.

Any questions, comments, suggestions or flames regarding my modding?

[Haylen]

I would like to point out that i genuinely didtt know which SSBF/SSSS was my scumbuddy when they were lynched Day One, I thought it was the other Smash Bro who was my scum buddy so my reasoning for hammering SSBF was genuine.

Sorry about the Quicktopic, me and Battle Mage have each other on MSN and (as always) we ended up having live chat during the night rather than via QT. If anyone wants logs I'm happy to post them.

Sorry SSSS, I'd love to explain but I can't remember which one you are :/

[Haylen]

No, I was town. Was there anything I could have said to clear me?

Anyway, good job scumteam. I wonder how much the N0 mason kill and early mason claim gave you confidence to distance/bus. I'm guessing it allowed you to play a little outside your comfort zone at least, Haylen.

I played very much outside my comfort zone. Me and BM never discussed that I might confirm him as scum, so it was an entire shock to him when I did. I'm one of those people who like to keep as many of my buddies alive as possible and wouldn't dream of trying to off one during lylo. Usually, I like to play it safe but I think I'm coming out of that a bit now.

CSL: Yes, I did play to my town meta, but there are little things that people forget about that they can't change. For example, I am very emotional as town and would be accused of AtoE at least twice during the game.

[Battle Mage]

No, I was town. Was there anything I could have said to clear me?

Anyway, good job scumteam. I wonder how much the N0 mason kill and early mason claim gave you confidence to distance/bus. I'm guessing it allowed you to play a little outside your comfort zone at least, Haylen.

Thanks bud. I stand by what i said earlier, you played a good game.

Haylen and I did not bus voluntarily, we only did what was necessary. SSBF was a liability, and he had to be eliminated as soon as he replaced in. The early outting of the masons had it's cons as well- i'd pretty much spent my efforts attacking 2 confirmed townies, and looked like a bit of an idiot.

I'm happy that i played this game as honestly as possible. I think Haylen is aware that her "confirmation" of me as scum in this game is deeply flawed. However, it was enough to fool CSL and Gandalf, which secured us the win. I can sympathise with Jahudo feeling a bit miffed at how this game concluded. lol

And yes, Haylen wasnt in on the bussing SSBF idea. I was beyond furious that he thought it would be clever to come into the game, and tunnel-bus (train?) me pointlessly.

Socrates - I was never absent from the game, aside from my brief spell on V/LA. I'd say it's generally poor form to replace someone who puts alot of effort into the game, when it isnt absolutely necessary. No flames, but i resent the suggestion you'd rather have not had me in the game.

SSSS - I cant remember, but i imagine we felt you were a threat. Moreso than Gandalf, who we felt we could control more easily. I left him a clue before i died, to the Haylen-BM scumpair, but he didnt get it. Interestingly, Jahudo should probably have picked up that the only person with any reason to keep him alive, was me?

BM

[CSL]

Haylen, you deserve this win.

Jahudo, I don't think there was anything you could've done.

Fuck.

[Haylen]

Haylen, you deserve this win.

Even though I lurked? :/ Admittedly not of my own accord.

[gandalf5166]

Haylen was the win this game. I was 99.9999999999999999% sure she was town the entire time.

[Battousai]

Why was I killed N0? FTR, I figured BM/Haylen scumteam early but mistook Molestargazer for a possible third member. I've never been good at getting a read on him in any game.

[molestargazer]

Gah, I should've pressed Haylen-wagon more. Well played though, good game.

[Hoopla]

Sorting bump.