Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[danakillsu]

I'm VT. Lynch Kunk. Goodbye.

Bye?
danakillsu-6-JacobSavage, Wdjat, Azelf, Lowell, kunkstar7, lobstermania
JacobSavage-1-Gayle
kunkstar7-1-danakillsu
lobstermania-1-Greb

[JacobSavage]

Oh bye D:

[JacobSavage]

So we can now go to an unoffical night-phase?

Dana was lynched, she was a Vanilla Townie

Send actions to the mod

[JacobSavage]

Oh and I have asked Max to become the mod, is that alright?

[Azelf]

We should totally modkill the mod.

Agreed.

I really should have asked this earlier, but why do you think Dana's scummy enough to merit hammertime?

Dana was throwing around votes like crazy, usually didn't bother to research or look up facts, and then quickly (and seemingly without question) would change her mind to someone else when her vote looked poorly placed, or someone else seemed like a more popular vote.
I also voted because people seem to be wandering away from this game, so a kill with some new information would definitely boost participation. Luckily, the person at L-1 was also someone I found to be very scummy. Though, I'll admit, I was kind of shocked to see Lowell still alive on Day Two....

I'm satisfied. Thanks for explaining.

Though, I'll admit, I was kind of shocked to see Lowell still alive on Day Two....

Mafia playing mind games? or more likely kill else where because they know the "Doctors" will be on him.

^^^ scummy

Possible, but like Lowell, I doubt it.
First, check this out.

0-10 Townies - Each town player has a 8/9 chance of being a townie, `0-10 Cops - Each town player has a 1/18 chance of being a cop, 0-10 Doctors - Each town player has a 1/18 chance of being a doctor

I don't know what the chances of us having both a cop AND a doctor are, but they're pretty low. It seems like it would be worth it for the Mafia to take a chance and nightkill someone who claimed cop.
Second, this.

I'm not going to reveal what I have unless needed. If I had a guilty I'd tell you.

Otherwise I agree with following kunk's lead.

What kind of cop wouldn't jump at the chance to confirm a townie?

And when he did eventually say who he "investigated", he claimed that he investigated Kunk, and that Kunk was innocent. He'd been buddying Kunk for quite a few posts before that, so I find it hard not to see that as suspicious.

Of course, the Mafia could be WIFOMing, but I seriously doubt it. Now that I've looked at him, I'm certain that Lowell is not actually a cop, and that the Mafia knows this somehow.

(Lowell does get bonus points for his rather self-destructive comment on Jacob's post, which is what caused me to look closer into his case and figure all this out.)

Finally, I'm fine with Max. FIGHT BACK! OVERTHROW ABSENT MODS! :V

[Gayle]

Wouldn't Lowell's buddying up to kunk make sense if he knew kunk was town from an investigation? I know I gave him trouble for this, but withholding the results until later in the day could allow you to form a more informed opinion on those attacking kunk. ...what I'm saying is don't just rule out that mafia could have their own reasons for not killing Lowell, whether it be fear of doctors or otherwise. </buddying>


I'm willing to cut Sho some slack, seeing as he is not the only person to disappear days at a time in this game. Jacob, you are not the mod and that is not an official flip.

[lobstermania]

Though, I'll admit, I was kind of shocked to see Lowell still alive on Day Two....

Mafia playing mind games? or more likely kill else where because they know the "Doctors" will be on him.

Mind games? No. I was surprised the town didn't lynch him Day One.

I'm not going to reveal what I have unless needed. If I had a guilty I'd tell you.

Otherwise I agree with following kunk's lead.

What kind of cop wouldn't jump at the chance to confirm a townie?

This post by Lowell frustrated me, too. But (giving him the benefit of the doubt) I can see a situation where withholding his night action could actually benefit the town.

[JacobSavage]

I never claimed to be, I was hoping that Dana was telling the truth, given that she had already been hammered. I was only wanting to get this game moving.

[Sho Minamimoto]

Sorry...
I officially say random papers and end of the semester can go burn.

Back to mod-like-stuff.

[Sho Minamimoto]

danakillsu has gone the way of root-1 as a townie. Night has started. Actions due in 48 hours.

[Sho Minamimoto]

Nothing happened Night 2. Have a beautiful time. Day 3 starts.

[kunkstar7]

Ok then. Not even going to start guessing what happened last night there's no point. I say Lowell claims last nights results.

[Gheb]

Curious to hear reports as well.

[JacobSavage]

Last Night an Alien abducted the Mafia,
Aren't they kind

[kunkstar7]

Last Night an Alien abducted the Mafia,
Aren't they kind

Vote: JacobSavage.

[lobstermania]

Hmm.....I'd hate to jump to conclusions, but it seems like we have a doc.

I'm also curious to know who Lowell investigated.

[Lowell]

As before, I'll reveal closer to the end of the day. I don't want people getting lazy.

And thanks to whoever protected me (yes, I assume that's what happened).

[JacobSavage]

Why thank you *tips hat*

Now as lowell is not revealing his result, his wording makes me think it is a guility? Or not...
But now I say If Lowell is scum, the scum nk, to make it seem like a doc save?
If he is town, either the Doc went elsewhere and got luckly or the mafia went for Lowell.
Or both mafia didn't send in the kill?

[lobstermania]

Now as lowell is not revealing his result, his wording makes me think it is a guility? Or not...
But now I say If Lowell is scum, the scum [didn't] nk, to make it seem like a doc save?
If he is town, either the Doc went elsewhere and got luckly or the mafia went for Lowell.
Or both mafia didn't send in the kill?

Those are some good ideas. A no-kill provides us with little information, which is frustrating because that's what this game needs right now.
I think before we jump into action we should wait and make sure we get a post from everyone and get the game back on track.

[Gheb]

Well I think that Wdjat has been inactive for so long that there simply might've been no NK at all if him and some other inactive player is mafia.

Though metagaming like that can work out pretty badly for town.

[Gheb]

Well I think that Wdjat has been inactive for so long that there simply might've been no NK at all if him and some other inactive player is mafia.

Though metagaming like that can work out pretty badly for town.

[Lowell]

Why thank you *tips hat*

Now as lowell is not revealing his result, his wording makes me think it is a guility? Or not...
But now I say If Lowell is scum, the scum nk, to make it seem like a doc save?
If he is town, either the Doc went elsewhere and got luckly or the mafia went for Lowell.
Or both mafia didn't send in the kill?

No no, sorry. I should have clarified. If it were guilty I would save you all the trouble and reveal straight away.

[Azelf]

As before, I'll reveal closer to the end of the day. I don't want people getting lazy.

And thanks to whoever protected me (yes, I assume that's what happened).

For reasons I've stated before Night 2, and reasons below,

Vote: Lowell

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A real cop wouldn't have a problem with telling the town his investigation results.

In addition, considering the lack of nightkill, either the Mafia are pulling some sort of WIFOM or we have a doc on our hands. In the first situation, the only real reason for the Mafia to pull such a WIFOMy thing is to try to save Lowell. In the second, considering that the Mafia doesn't seem to have a roleblocker (Lowell never mentioned getting roleblocked, and any decent Mafia roleblocker would block someone who claimed cop), a town with both cop and doctor would seem insanely overpowered. Either way, this definitely supports my belief that Lowell isn't a cop.

[Gheb]

I don't see the benefit for a townie to not reveal results either.

But then again I also fail to see why scum would do it.

[Gayle]

Just checking in before I get prodded. I'll be back later today.

@Azelf: This is an open game. You can see the setup in the OP. There are no roleblockers and we are as likely to have a doctor as we are a cop. In other words, none of what you just said makes any sense.