Mini 917 -- Precision Mafia (Game Over)

[Iecerint]

Bah. Go town.

[McGriddle]

NOO!!! lol poor Iecerint. Well how do we know if the investigation came up clean?

[AlmasterGM]

*points a finger at Almaster*

MURDERER

*Shrug* I do what I can.

[popsofctown]

Almaster, we are guiding your shot today, you know that right?

@McGriddle: the commander doesn't say anything if he gets innocent. For his benefit, he should expect to see the pool have 12 townies-3 scums=9 townies- dead seacore=8 townies*3=24 -8 standardized votes - ~4 night actions -1 lynch= 11 points in the pool + his bonus. If the commander has significantly fewer than 11 + his bonus, like 6 fewer or worse, he should claim and tell us to lynch Cruciare. Otherwise, we supposose that he is innocent, even confirmedly so.


Almaster we are guiding your shot today, we told you that remember? If you shoot someone without the town asking you to we will hurt you.

[AlmasterGM]

Actually, I was a one-shot vigilante. I have no further shots. I am now effectively VT.

[bv310]

Then why in the hell did you waste it? What use is it shooting a random townie?

[popsofctown]

Almaster, why didn't you tell us you were a one-shot yesterday?

[Fate]

FOS: Almaster

Yeah, well now that he's just a vanilla that killed randomly yesterday, we can lynch him right?

[AlmasterGM]

@pops - Vig's are pretty powerful. I hoped the mafia would use their NK on me (an effective vanilla townie) so our other PR's would be protected. Obviously, they did not take the bait.

@bv - I have never played as Vig before, I didn't want to sit around lest I lose my shot, Seacore seemed like a reasonable target, and so I used it. You can call it a bad move all you want, but what's done is done.

@ fate - your FOS is extremely hot-tempered and not well-thought out. The mafia NK'd last night. That means you are proposing that I am either "Mafia-with-multiple-kills-per-round, some of which are daykills" or "Daykilling serial killer who can choose whether to kill or not and is revealed as the shooter." Both of these possibilities are ludicrous - the probabilities of them existing in a game that appears to be pretty normal (e.g., no bastard modding) are practically zero. Be logical.

[popsofctown]

k, right answer.

[McGriddle]

@pops - Vig's are pretty powerful. I hoped the mafia would use their NK on me (an effective vanilla townie) so our other PR's would be protected. Obviously, they did not take the bait.

@bv - I have never played as Vig before, I didn't want to sit around lest I lose my shot, Seacore seemed like a reasonable target, and so I used it. You can call it a bad move all you want, but what's done is done.

@ fate - your FOS is extremely hot-tempered and not well-thought out. The mafia NK'd last night. That means you are proposing that I am either "Mafia-with-multiple-kills-per-round, some of which are daykills" or "Daykilling serial killer who can choose whether to kill or not and is revealed as the shooter." Both of these possibilities are ludicrous - the probabilities of them existing in a game that appears to be pretty normal (e.g., no bastard modding) are practically zero. Be logical.

Well it seems a little fishy that they didn't take the bate.

[AlmasterGM]

Well it seems a little fishy that they didn't take the bate.

*bait.

And yes, clearly.

Anyway, content-wise (woah, when was the last time anyone mentioned that!) McGriddle and JR's posts yesterday were of pretty poor quality.

[McGriddle]

Well it seems a little fishy that they didn't take the bate.

*bait.

And yes, clearly.

Anyway, content-wise (woah, when was the last time anyone mentioned that!) McGriddle and JR's posts yesterday were of pretty poor quality.

OMGUS after I placed suspicion on you.

It's fishy from our POV, you are obviously not town-aligned. Why wouldn't scum want to kill you?

[AlmasterGM]

OMGUS after I placed suspicion on you.

It's fishy from our POV, you are obviously not town-aligned. Why wouldn't scum want to kill you?

It's not OMGUS because your posts are actually bad (I iso'd and half of them were just like, "lol sup guyz") and your suspicion of me is entirely unfounded. It has NOTHING to do with actual play and is predicated entirely on my Seacore shot, which makes me prob-town not prob-scum (once again, refer to the two possibilities for me as scum, they are both outlandish).

[Fate]

The possibility of you being day-killing SK is not outlandish.
So yeah, saying it twice won't make it any more unlikely.

[bv310]

I've seen daykilling Mafia before, when town had a lot of strong PRs, so that can't be off the table either.

[Fate]

Hmmmmmmmm!!!

You know what? This pseudo-investigations are AWESOME.

Why?

Because if no commander comes forward with a guilty... we can assume Elscouta is innocent. Of course it should be taken with some salt, but it is good for PoE at D2 at least.

We get an innocent without a "cop" needing to come forward! Hail! Anyway let's move this day forward.

FoS:

McG for lynch. He calls Almaster "obviously not town-aligned" (when I did it before it was for reaction fishing, btw)

Burn Candidates:

Bv130/J.R. Can't read either of these guys.

[McGriddle]

Hmmmmmmmm!!!

You know what? This pseudo-investigations are AWESOME.

Why?

Because if no commander comes forward with a guilty... we can assume Elscouta is innocent. Of course it should be taken with some salt, but it is good for PoE at D2 at least.

We get an innocent without a "cop" needing to come forward! Hail! Anyway let's move this day forward.

FoS:

McG for lynch. He calls Almaster "obviously not town-aligned" (when I did it before it was for reaction fishing, btw)

Burn Candidates:

Bv130/J.R. Can't read either of these guys.

The bolded above is COMPLETE bullshit. You are covering your ass so badly.

I am not following anything you say, I have my own judgements, and I believe he is obviously not town. Why else would mafia keep him alive at the risk of them being daykilled by him?

[Fate]

Because he used his shot near randomly D1, and near random shots almost always hit town?

It is possible they want to use his shots to kill town, or (hmmm) push his lynch on the basis of his Seacore shot. Wait, that's what you're doing!?

[McGriddle]

Because he used his shot near randomly D1, and near random shots almost always hit town?

It is possible they want to use his shots to kill town, or (hmmm) push his lynch on the basis of his Seacore shot. Wait, that's what you're doing!?

OR that he used his shot to kill town and wanted it to look as if he were doing it completely random. This is a game of deception, and if you can't grasp that then you will surely lose the majority of your games.

[fhqwhgads]

Actually, I was a one-shot vigilante. I have no further shots. I am now effectively VT.

At least that was useful...

I've seen daykilling Mafia before, when town had a lot of strong PRs, so that can't be off the table either.

Especially if we consider daykilling using CP.

Because he used his shot near randomly D1, and near random shots almost always hit town?

But scum shots will most definitely hit town. This is null.



I do believe that we should heed Elscouta's warning that no news does not clear him as a townie. If there are roles that, as he alluded can manipulate CP, we should also consider that some roles can interfere with the commander's ability.

[popsofctown]

Actually, I was a one-shot vigilante. I have no further shots. I am now effectively VT.

At least that was useful...

I've seen daykilling Mafia before, when town had a lot of strong PRs, so that can't be off the table either.

Especially if we consider daykilling using CP.

Because he used his shot near randomly D1, and near random shots almost always hit town?

But scum shots will most definitely hit town. This is null.



I do believe that we should heed Elscouta's warning that no news does not clear him as a townie. If there are roles that, as he alluded can manipulate CP, we should also consider that some roles can interfere with the commander's ability.

It doesn't totally clear him, but it certainly raises the threshold of suspicion needed to lynch him quite a bit.

[Fate]

No thoughts on who to lynch/burn today Pops? Fwhg?

I think we can leave Almaster alone for the moment. I ceratainly don't want to leave him until endgame where he can post: "LOLZ SUCKER DAY KILLING SK FTW I HAVE MOAR SHOTS!" And win.

Wait. Cobalt is in this game? WHERE THE HELL ARE J00!?

[Fate]

Mod can you prod Cobalt?

Been almost 10 days since his last post.

[RedCoyote]

I'm prodding J.R and cobalt.