~laundry~ FIN

[MariaR]

Oh one day I want to flip scum in a playlist like this just so I can crush all your hopes and dreams smirking in my scum PT as everyone is in my pocket.

See, I think you

want

to be scum if only to attempt to crush my heart like yours was(?).

I don't want to crush you Andy because I think you want me to crush you just so you think we'll be even.

[Firebringer]

Don't hate you at all or explicitly want to see you out of this game, but I definitely think your attitude if its still present in later days and you are town, scum will take advantage of and help them win the game.

I'm certainly not replacing out for strategic advantage because 1) that's horrible and 2) I'm fairly confident that's against site rules.
Attitude only cropped up because I thought Tammy was missing a part of my approach; the reason it's continuing is mostly because you're asking about it.

I don't think replacing out because you don't enjoy a game would ever be qualified for "Strategic advantage" even if you think your replace out would help your faction.

but thats a different mess.
if your staying, i am going tp push you more if you push the narrative this is a shit game or something.

[Tammy]

I'm concerned about the lack of town feeling vibe. I'm concerned about the feeling of being left hanging. I'm having a really hard time believing that we finally drew town together, something that hasn't happened in forever, and this is what I get.

This game hasn't been fun with me. I've been in a mindset where I don't think that this game will be fun for me unless I get ridiculously drunk during it, which is why I've secretly been hoping and praying that I get lynched so I'm released from the game. Typically you would be the one who could drag me out of the darkness, spray water on my face and bring me back to the groove because you have that tendency when you're a bright shining light but the game seems to be having the same effect on you to. At this point, I'm hoping I get dragged to death and make some beautiful inspirational posts and then say my goodbyes and put this game behind me and that's the best I can hope from this game.

UNVOTE: [//unvote]

A little flowery but I'm willing to give you a chance here. Yes, the game is frustrating and it only gets worse the more I sit here drumming my fingers waiting for you to come in here and do the thing you do when you're town. I think we had better and more natural interactions in the final fantasy game when we didn't have enough time to play than we're having here and it's bugging me. It's bugging me that you know exactly what I want from you, and you weren't doing it even before this game became a shitfest.

[Tammy]

UNVOTE:

[Tammy]

I do want you to talk to me about Pine because he was my dark horse scum read that I wanted to push yesterday before the crapfest sponsored by Gerry and his fake claim.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

[Nachomamma8]

It's bugging me that you know exactly what I want from you, and you weren't doing it even before this game became a shitfest.

I'm here, I'm delivering, and I'm talking.

[Zachstralkita]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

For what reason(s)

You've done this like 3 times now which is fine just say why concisely.

[Firebringer]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

whats funny is i felt the exact opposite lol
i went from null to lean town over last page

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Actually I take back my Zach town-lean.

For what reason(s)

You've done this like 3 times now which is fine just say why concisely.

PoE: drealmerz7, Zachstralkita, Pine, Toogeloo, gerryoat, Tammy

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

One of Pine/Zach/Dreamz is scum.

I am def leaning dreamz BUT some of his interaction with Creature doesn't read as scum/scum.

[Tammy]

That theory assumes that, as scum, I'm incompetent enough to draw attention after relatively little pressure where there is no need for it. And also, to be engaged relatively little in producing hard content and expect that to

not

draw attention.



Oh well. As long as it makes sense to you.

And yet. This is what scum do quite often.

There has been absolutely no reason to read you as town. If you're town, start doing town things.

[drealmerz7]

you want me to be scum so badly

it's SAD

[Zachstralkita]

n0 guilty peek Creature


VOTE: Creature

I raise.

That theory assumes that, as scum, I'm incompetent enough to draw attention after relatively little pressure where there is no need for it. And also, to be engaged relatively little in producing hard content and expect that to

not

draw attention.



Oh well. As long as it makes sense to you.

And yet. This is what scum do quite often.

There has been absolutely no reason to read you as town. If you're town, start doing town things.

So if there's been no reason to read me as town why do people town read me?


Why is the only reasonable scum case on me the lack of "town" things, which is a moot point anyway?

[Nachomamma8]

I do want you to talk to me about Pine because he was my dark horse scum read that I wanted to push yesterday before the crapfest sponsored by Gerry and his fake claim.

I think that most of Pine's reads are fake, shallow, and convenient. I don't really but that he didn't bus Creature because he "never busses", I think the fact that so many of his reads depend on the Creature flip imply that he bussed and I think that the "quiet, stubborn, but 100% confident" is setting up for cred in case Creature fails to survive Day 1, same as McMenno's approach.

[Andrius]

I don't want to crush you Andy because I think you want me to crush you just so you think we'll be even.

I'd like to see what you'd do, as scum, with me around. I just don't see it this game.
I think you'd be trying harder to dupe me as scum (as if you're going to crush my heart you're going to want to shatter it into pieces in front of me) and manipulate me, neither of which I'm getting here.

I'm totally ok with both of us being town together though apparently I'm not worthy of being a Neighborizer or Masonizer or Seeking role or something so I can find you.
But I gotta admit, I think you being scum when I'm town would be a more interesting game for both of us.

[Nachomamma8]

Why is the only reasonable scum case on me the lack of "town" things, which is a moot point anyway?

What is your Andrius case?

[Zachstralkita]

YesterDay Andrius quoted what should have been several reasons to vote me but never quoted where I responded to most or all of them, instead implying that they fully had merit and I did nothing to respond to them. I don't think he gives a shit about solving.

That's a sliver of it.

However little it may seem I don't think it should be ignored because of the false pretenses.

[Zachstralkita]

Also he's taken like every chance he can get to scumread me today just riding off of what he originally stated, which was never really a good case to begin with.







Tammy told me I should start doing town things, what then, does lynching who I believe to be scum fall under?

[Nachomamma8]

if you were lynching andrius that would be a good rebuttal but as it stands you're just sort of whispering into the wind

[Nachomamma8]

as you've been doing most of this game
only time you've shown life is when you're being pushed which is why most people would probably be okay with you being super dead

[Zachstralkita]

You asked me for my read on him which is why I responded to you with such..

I'm lynching Sly right now... who pinged me hard yesterday

[Nachomamma8]

oops!
why did Sly ping you?
what are your Pine and McMenno reads?

[Andrius]

if you were lynching andrius that would be a good rebuttal but as it stands you're just sort of whispering into the wind

as you've been doing most of this game
only time you've shown life is when you're being pushed which is why most people would probably be okay with you being super dead

Accurate description of my thoughts.

[drealmerz7]

as you've been doing most of this game
only time you've shown life is when you're being pushed which is why most people would probably be okay with you being super dead

it's not ringing me as scummy though and it is D2 in this gamestate his lynch doesn't give us much at all and he's not likely scum from the play