Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD...if that's true how do you explain DDD and GI's interaction on Day 3. How many mafia do you think are left, and why would GI bus DDD on day 3 like that if he wasn't sure of who his targets were (if they are country leaders as we suspect and as would be supported by GI claiming to be Sanaki.)

Oh, based on the Sanaki claim and result; Ike might be out there?

Do you think this town was going to legitimately listen to anything Grey had to say?

Really? REALLY?

if DDD was going to be lynched, it would happen with or without Grey. Him putting his vote there makes a lot of sense as bussing for town cred considering this.

There are 2 scum left likely, a Roleblocker and a Rolecop. DDD is the rolecop.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean, beyond me, who actually listens to Grey without discounting his opinions as stupid? Seriously?

Glork? Hindu?

Like, seriously.

[Tammy]

But that doesn't match up with how he behaved regarding Nexus or Implosion. He actively tried to steer attention away from those wagons and onto Katsuki or elsewhere, so why would he behave differently with his country cop?

[Katsuki]

Glork, you really don't care about which of LLD/DDD dies today don't you.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Well this is a positive, I expected to be rushed to my death when Vi started posting scary noises. I do admit to being vexed at the Ludi wagon not having enough support, will consider the necessity of moving over to LLD tonight/tomorrow.

[Tammy]

What makes Ludi more likely than LLD? Quite honestly I had scum reads on both of them day one and will listen.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

What makes Ludi more likely than LLD? Quite honestly I had scum reads on both of them day one and will listen.

It's just that ML has done absolutely nothing positive this entire game, he hasn't once had his vote on a scum player, hell, he hasn't had his vote on an unflipped player outside of you. And then LLD, if she was going to run a miller claim why not open the game with it instead of waiting until she claimed to do it unless of course she wasn't expecting to be investigated.

That being said, I'm not sure Glork or Hindu are willing to vote ML any more / at all and I'd need both of them to lynch ML. Not sure if the other people currently voting for ML will all move over to LLD as well so maybe both I and the town are just fucked but I need to look over them on those grounds.

[singersigner]

I'll move to LLD, I don't care at this point.

[Magister Ludi]

Question, has singer been cleared definitely by any role or town player as being town?

Other than that a DDD lynch is very good.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I'll move to LLD, I don't care at this point.

+ me + Tierce + Hindu = 7

+ TSH? = Lynch

ML isn't going to happen due to Glork/Hindu, this might.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: LLD

[singersigner]

Question, has singer been cleared definitely by any role or town player as being town?

Other than that a DDD lynch is very good.

Not by a power role...

What do you mean being cleared by a "town player"...?

Also, are you opposed to an LLD lynch?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Alternatively, we can lynch DDD's self preserving ass.

[Hinduragi]

I mean, beyond me, who actually listens to Grey without discounting his opinions as stupid? Seriously?

Glork? Hindu?

Like, seriously.

Around the time I put all my cards down on Tim, Grey became confirmed scum. There wasn't really a need to listen to any of his shit by then.

You do need to die, and you should recognize this. You not seeing it is what the worrisome part is.

Vote: LLD

[Hinduragi]

Alternatively, we can lynch DDD's self preserving ass.

I can pretty much tell you DDD is 100% town by now. I will bet this game on his alignment if I have to.

[Hinduragi]

And DDD, if you are by some chance scum, then good job and you deserved this win. The rest of the scumteam...not so much.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Alternatively, we can lynch DDD's self preserving ass.

Seriously? Of course I'm trying to preserve myself, I'm the only player I know is 100% for sure town, it would be the absolute worst play to acquiesce to my own lynch.

Alternatively, we can lynch DDD's self preserving ass.

I can pretty much tell you DDD is 100% town by now. I will bet this game on his alignment if I have to.

Good bet.

~~

At least with a LLD lynch she'll either be scum which is a fine prize or I'll get a minor consolation prize of being right about there being two town country cops.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Also, even though Glork wants Toasty to block me; who should I be investigating if that doesn't happen for whatever reason?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm going to ask this once, because you people are incredibly dense.

WHY DID DDD COUNTER CLAIM ME TODAY?

Why does DDD think there are 2 town country cops? What POSSIBLE reason could he have?

Is it because I'm from Daein? Great sure! That makes sense!

EXCEPT I DIDN'T CLAIM I WAS FROM DAEIN UNTIL DAY 4

.

I claimed Country Cop on Day 3. No Daein included. I claimed a result on spyreX congruent with UberNinja's, while DDD supposedly

ALREADY HAD A "INNOCENT" ON SPYREX

.

The facts do not add up. Why wouldn't he counter claim me as town right then? He had no reason to suspect 2 Country Cops on Day 3. Day 4? Maybe.

I'll tell you what I think the reason is. He was being ignored with his "confirmable role" claim. Why would he risk his place with getting investigations for his scum buddies to get the country cop lynched?

No fucking need. None.

If he was town, he would have counter claimed Day 3 after his "confirmable role" claim. He didn't, and only claimed when the situation was forced on Day 7. If the situation wasn't forced, DO YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE CLAIMED? NO. He would have sat in the god damn background and watched us lynch ML.

Even today HE TRIED TO LYNCH ML. WHY? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT THE 1v1 TO GO THROUGH. IT MEANS HE'S GUARANTEED TO DIE. HE KNOWS I'M FLIPPING TOWN AND EVEN NOW HE"S PUSHING THE 2 COUNTRY COP ANGLE.

It's scum motivated play. Plain and Simple.

And you people are giving him a free pass of it today. And you're not giving me any idication you're going to take care of business tomorrow.

So you know what? Lynch DDD with me. I GUARANTEE he will flip scum. If he doesn't, then you go ahead and kill me.

Just don't tell me "OH YOU NEED TO DIE LLD. IF YOU'RE TOWN YOU WOULD KNOW THIS." No. I don't need to die. When DDD flips scum, you'll be eating your goddamn words.

Also, what the fuck is this "IF DDD IS SCUM YOU DESERVE THIS WIN" shit. HE'S OBVIOUS FUCKING SCUM. STOP THROWING THE FUCKING GAME AWAY AND GROW A DAMNED SPINE HINDU.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So I'm gonna step away from this game for a bit. Hopefully some of you see the light and vote the actual scumbag instead of throwing your game away because of apathy.

Beyond that there's nothing left for me to say. If I get mislynched here I hope the town loses? I hope you DON"T listen to me and you DON'T lynch DDD and you get burned?

Maybe I'm just a vindictive bitch. I don't know. I'm sorry? Kinda? Nah, I'm not sorry right now. I'll apologize post game when I actually feel sorry.

Peace.

[Tierce]

LLD is right re: the timeline of events. DDDP had no reason to believe her claim on D3, AND he had an innocent on SpyreX from a claim similar to LLD. It doesn't make sense from town.

UNVOTE: Magister Ludi
VOTE: Debonair Danny DiPietro

L-1.

Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-1) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, ToastyToast, Magister Ludi, danakillsu, Katsuki, Nikanor, Tierce
Lady Lambdadelta (L-3) ~ Gammagooey, Glork, Tammy, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Hinduragi
Magister Ludi (L-6) ~ singersigner, Teleporting Speed Hippos

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

LLD is right re: the timeline of events. DDDP had no reason to believe her claim on D3, AND he had an innocent on SpyreX from a claim similar to LLD. It doesn't make sense from town.

UNVOTE: Magister Ludi
VOTE: Debonair Danny DiPietro

L-1.

Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-1) ~ Lady Lambdadelta, ToastyToast, Magister Ludi, danakillsu, Katsuki, Nikanor, Tierce
Lady Lambdadelta (L-3) ~ Gammagooey, Glork, Tammy, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Hinduragi
Magister Ludi (L-6) ~ singersigner, Teleporting Speed Hippos

Green is not an innocent, green is just a likely innocent and I fail to see why I had to immediately think there weren't two town country cops. Remember D2, where I pushed Tammy despite having a non-Red result on her before LLD ever claimed? Yeah, because I don't agree with the one to one association you're making. I wish I could point back to the Batman Marathon game where I made near this exact move as town with a pair of town cops in the game but it was years ago and certainly lost to the sands of time. Make one unconventional fucking move and it somehow overrides every other authentic town country cop move I've made.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You made a post, wherein you YOURSELF claimed that you thought SpyreX was town because you didnt' think there would eb a scum from his country.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think I’ve figured out what’s up with the SpyreX death and I really wish I would’ve thought of it at the time and that the game would’ve slowed down there to let him survive because I knew he was from Gallia and while there could be Gallia scum it didn’t strike me as likely with SpyreX given our early D2 convo.

This post, to be exact.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

You made a post, wherein you YOURSELF claimed that you thought SpyreX was town because you didnt' think there would eb a scum from his country.

You notice how I didn't go, "SpyreX is innocent" when you and UN claimed? And instead asked a question about why a no result equaled a guilty? That's because my read + non-red (and even more specifically Green) meant SpyreX was town, independent of each other they were significantly less important, it was the interaction of the two pieces that meant he was town.

[singersigner]

@LLD...why would DDD be worried about a 1v1 going through if he's scum and you could just investigate him tonight to find out...