Mini 1891: Fat Boy Mafia [Over]

[Nexus]

Almost as soon as they had arrived, Fat Boy had finished his desserts. The waiter, knowing Fat Boy's preferences, dropped the bill off and then came back thirty seconds later with the card machine and a handful of mints.

"You know just how to cheer a guy up," Fat Boy muttered as he mashed his fingers to enter his pin. "When you gonna get contactless?"

The server chuckled nervously but breathed a sigh of relief when the card payment went through. Fat Boy stood up and left, oblivous to the destruction he had wrought. Next stop - Sainsbury's.

Votecount 1.8:

pieg (4)

- massive, Alz, Whemestar, Persivul

Persivul (2)

- Firebringer, Nosferatu

Desperado (2)

- Pine, implosion

-Grey- (2)

- TwoFace, pieg

implosion (1)

- PranaDevil

Firebringer (1)

- -Grey-

PranaDevil (1)

- Desperado

Not voting (0)

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With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 6am GMT on Friday 24th March 2017. (expired on 2017-03-24 06:00:00). Alz has been prodded.

[Firebringer]

I know you said my reasoning on you was "Buzzwords"

It was.

but i really think your just pushing people who are easy mislynches right now

First, the evidence shows that's wrong. If I were pushing easy mislynches, people would vote along with me.

Second, why in the world would I do that as scum on D1? Do you feel a need to push easy mislynches as scum on D1?

and as pointed out the reasoning on Pine is bad.

I thought he was an easy mislynch?

5 people are voting Pieg, so you saying its not easy is kind of funny to me.

And yeah, Pine is easy mislynch to YOU. Not to everyone, maybe I worded that badly, but you seem to be pushing people who everyone doesn't like their posts aka Easy Mislynch, in your mind.

[Pine]

it will have blackjack and hookers too.

That was your fifth post joking about being scum. Why do you do that?

[Persivul]

5 people are voting Pieg, so you saying its not easy is kind of funny to me.

Four, and wagons at this point on D1 don't last to lynch, so your point is invalid.

And yeah, Pine is easy mislynch to YOU. Not to everyone, maybe I worded that badly, but you seem to be pushing people who everyone doesn't like their posts aka Easy Mislynch, in your mind.

The problem is that you don't understand my mind. You're analyzing my play as if I'm newbie scum.

Again - "why in the world would I do that as scum on D1? Do you feel a need to push easy mislynches as scum on D1?"

[Persivul]

kind of funny to me

Speaking of funny...there's a word for people who are easy to lynch: scummy. You're criticizing me for pushing players who appear scummy.

You're voting me. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a hypocrite, so you apparently think that I don't really appear scummy, i.e. you don't have a solid basis for your push. NTTAWWT at this stage of the game, but it's pretty funny.

[Nosferatu]

kind of funny to me

Speaking of funny...there's a word for people who are easy to lynch: scummy. You're criticizing me for pushing players who appear scummy.

You're voting me. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a hypocrite, so you apparently think that I don't really appear scummy, i.e. you don't have a solid basis for your push. NTTAWWT at this stage of the game, but it's pretty funny.

1. no, that's really not what people who are easy to lynch are called.
2. the fuck does NTTAWWT mean

[Firebringer]

kind of funny to me

Speaking of funny...there's a word for people who are easy to lynch: scummy. You're criticizing me for pushing players who appear scummy.

You're voting me. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a hypocrite, so you apparently think that I don't really appear scummy, i.e. you don't have a solid basis for your push. NTTAWWT at this stage of the game, but it's pretty funny.

first line: what? who taught you how to argue?

second line: No....I think you are being scummy, I disagree with you on the people your pushing because I don't see them as "scummy' i see them as "these are easy pushes inside the mind of persivul". I haven't seen pieg or pine do anything scummy, i mean unless you count pieg weird style which i can't quite figure out.

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE:
Pers isn't that scummy. Just wrong.

speaking of which,

@pieg: one question for you, how exactly did you come up with the order for the players who hadn't spoken yet in your read list? I'd be willing to change my read based on your answer.

[Persivul]

2. the fuck does NTTAWWT mean

Not that there's anything wrong with that. People are pushed for numerous reasons, particularly in the first half of D1. Getting reactions, seeing who gets on, seeing who gets off. FB is ignoring that fact and pretending like scum!pers would just blatantly push for an early mislynch on D1. It's ridiculous.

[Firebringer]

whats your scum meta pers?

[Persivul]

whats your scum meta pers?

How can you play the game this long and think so simplistically?

[Firebringer]

whats your scum meta pers?

How can you play the game this long and think so simplistically?

but you just made a meta argument at me.....
i don't know what the hell your trying to do right now.

are you just attempting to discredit anything i say?

[Firebringer]

pretending like scum!pers would just blatantly push for an early mislynch on D1. It's ridiculous

someone tell me i am not crazy for thinking pers was saying he wouldn't do this as scum.

[Firebringer]

If you think meta is trash, don't make arguments with meta at me on why you are town/scum.
If you think none of your actions are scummy at all, argue that.

but don't entertain me with meta and then tell me I am being stupid for questioning you on it.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:
honestly your still really scummy to me pers, but like I think I am near tunnel mode and I refuse to tunnel day 1.

[-Grey-]

UNVOTE:
honestly your still really scummy to me pers, but like I think I am near tunnel mode and I refuse to tunnel day 1.

He's scummy to me too.

I don't think you are tunneling.

[Alz]

Sorry, I haven't been posting, had a lot of work in the last few days.

Will be reading up now

[Alz]

@Implosion 332
Regarding timing, I can agree with you. Scum generally do wait. But the tone does put me off, it seems very forced, especially that carrying over. I'm not sure, but till now I have got a scummy vibe from him, from the reads list to the tone, to his reads. I'm confused now

334
Pine wagon is bad-mainly because however we look at it, we're gonna be policy lynching him 'cause we can't read him. I dunno if it's a mod given post restriction or pine's just doing it not to be read, but it's dumb to lynch him.

SO you think, implosion just has a mistaken town read of Pieg which pieg is trying perpetuate? What do you make of Pieg's second reads list-where even though he says implosion has been great so far, he has him much lower down.

Why do you consider desp towny?

See, this is what I find weird. Implosion's last post was kinda sounded genuine, explaining his motivations on pieg. But his previous ones supporting pieg, pieg's reinforcing of that idea and his reads list where implosion is lower down all give off bad vibes to me. I'm really confused especially after implosion's last post.

344 Reasons? How do you read wheme as town? Why are Persivul & Nos scum? Why am I scum?

347 I feel bad. But why? What do you find bad?

381 He hasn't said anything in the 9 posts he's made. Why him compared to everything else that's been happening?

[Alz]

400 Why should we vote Persivul? I would rather put my vote on pieg.

403 This is weird. It's still developing is weak like you're saying something so that he'll turn away and wont pester more. Since the game has now progressed, what are your reads?

409 What bad vibes are you getting from either of them? I'm getting a weird vibe from this

Will catch up with the rest in a bit

[WhemeStar]

what if i take out wheme?
wheme doesn't even townread me so I guess he can't be in it anyways.

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[WhemeStar]

I could see myself lynching Persivul over Firebringer if they decide to 1v1.

Same, don't like his push on fire really

[pieg]

I could see myself lynching Persivul over Firebringer if they decide to 1v1.

I could see myself misspelling Persivul.

[pieg]

UNVOTE:
Pers isn't that scummy. Just wrong.

speaking of which,

@pieg: one question for you, how exactly did you come up with the order for the players who hadn't spoken yet in your read list? I'd be willing to change my read based on your answer.

Oh I love appeasing scums! I read activity overview and randomly entered them. How in the world could you consider changing a read based on that?

VOTE: nos

I misspelled Persivul because foneposting.

[implosion]

@alz you should mention names in your posts, they're a lot harder to read/follow especially at a glance when you're just listing numbers.

I don't know what to make of persivul. His recent play is very opaque. I dislike the degree to which he's focused towards firebringer, and some of his posts towards him have felt viscerally scummy but I can't really justify why. Like 496. Just a really... idk, weird response. Not really productive, not relevant to the game, idk. And the way he talked about how he wouldn't push an easy mislynch as scum. I think he's telling the truth but it feels off. It feels like he's being too dismissive and that he's focusing his attention in fb's direction to the detriment of other directions (similar to what I criticized desperado of, but he is doing other things). I still think his early play reads gut town even taking experience into consideration (it's certainly fakeable but i think it's a little more likely not to be faked).

[implosion]

fire I still want you to elaborate on desperado-town.

VOTE: Nos