Mini 1354: Vedere le Viste! Game Over!

McStab · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:16 pm

To answer your question, Scumhunter, "no."

I know TheWorst is the obv. hammer today but I want to know why from Lucky first.

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:12 pm

In post 497, TheWorst wrote:That said the Elmo and Bud votes bother me. OMGUS from Bud and poor reasoning from Elmo.

Because I'm not buying the watcher claim. Still not. Sorry mafia watcher isn't something out of the normal realm

TheWorst · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:22 pm

@Elmo ... What do you mean? Bud could easily not be watcher if scum, he hasn't said anything particularly revealing. Another thing, where's your reasoning? Have you found proof that Bub is scum?
Also I want your thoughts on Lucky's report.

@McStab What can you possibly mean? From your perspective, which I assume should be town, you would think

"He's mafia

because

his report says so. I should wait for Lucky because he said he was gonna talking about something important."

Instead you're ignoring that and thinking

"Why would he vote him?"

when the answer has already been said? That sounds informed.

I don't want to give any spoilers. However I think that's scummy.

Luckyjt · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:16 am

I have never been asleep for this long ever. I went to sleep for 17 hours and just woke up. Give me a little time to get back to my senses.

@The Worst why would you claim Vt yesterday when you are not?

TheWorst · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:21 am

Yet I am a VT. A town Citizen to be exact.

McStab · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:27 am

You think it's scummy that we've logically narrowed it down to a maximum of five possible scum, one of whom would've had to hardbus both partners Day One and Day Two while other lynches were viable, another one of those is myself, who I know is town, leaving it between you, Arugula and Elmo. Then that the mod-confirmed Role Cop says you're not Vanilla, when we're assuming the existence of a scum PR, and said you were the lynch today.

Stop trying to deflect this on Bub, once Lucky comes out and formally says what he discovered, we're going to lynch you and win.

McStab · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:28 am

Lucky, what did you get back for investigation results?

Scumhunter · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:28 am

Is this a reaction test lucky? What is your real report if this isn't it? He's confirming his VT claim, so if this is not a reaction test we can just go ahead and lynch him and likely end the game.

Luckyjt · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:31 am

unvote theworst

Yes it was a reaction test. I followed with the plan and investigated Venmar. I had suspicion of TheWorst during the end of last day and was hoping he was scum and would just give up.

My investigation seem to come up with just the role name and no alignment since I only got that Venmar was an oracle.

TheWorst · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:32 am

I'm actually helping town at the moment. The fact that you think I'm deflecting to Bub is kind've silly, because that's misrep FMPOV. I haven't deflected at all, instead I'm focusing on the real issues because I know the truth.
PEdit: I had a feeling.

TheWorst · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:34 am

Wait I don't understand why would you have suspicions on me yet not on Elmo?

Luckyjt · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:53 am

I actually dont know what it was but sometimes something sticks out to me and then it just bothers me until I get that person lynched or they get confirmed.

McStab · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:00 am

Ok, well is everyone good with the plan I laid out then? I say we lynch Elmo today, Lucky investigates one of Arugula, me or TheWorst, Bub watches Lucky, and we continue along until all three of Arugula, myself and TheWorst are confirmed, either through death or Lucky. If we've confirmed everyone, then Lucky can check Bub, but if Bub's scum, then he's eventually screwed over anyway, because Lucky won't die and it'll be Lucky + a conf. town in LyLo with Bub.

Vote:Elmo

TheWorst · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:06 am

Unfortunately I couldn't get Elmo or Bud to react. I think Elmo should be lynched today.
I don't think we gauged a good reaction. Arugula was weak, and honestly is a null tell.
Only Scumhunter and McStab gave a good reaction.

My opinion? Elmo/Bud/Arugula Course we can't lynch Bud, let's lynch Elmo.

I want defense from Elmo now.

Arugula · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:09 am

UNVOTE: TheWorst
Man I thought we won.

But I dislike how Elmo is trying to get a PR lynched.

Luckyjt · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:13 am

Im trusting Bub right now. Lets lynch Elmo, the bub can check out theworst, I will check out Arugula. This way if one of them is mafia they will be forced to no action or be killed. If for some reason scum isnt found we no lynch. then both of us will check out Mcstab and if he isnt scum we lynch bub. But right now i trust Bub.

TheWorst · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:17 am

Lucky that's not how it works.
Bud is a watcher... H

TheWorst · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:39 am

crap I need an EDWOP. Haha posted accidentally.
Bud is a watcher, he can't check people. He can only check people on you.

I just had an idea though.
Bud can wifom on you or Scumhunter. You can pick whoever you want between me, McStab, and Arugula. That way scum can't kill a clear if bub is real.

McStab · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:21 am

Bud has to watch Lucky, because Lucky surviving is paramount to producing another confirmed town. If Scumhunter dies tonight, big deal, we replace him and we've narrowed down the pool of suspects. If Lucky dies tonight, we can't produce another confirmed town. Bub protects Lucky, Lucky investigates one of me, Arugula or TheWorst, we lynch Elmo, and Bub will probably die tonight. Even if Bub doesn't die tonight forget WIFOM, we keep producing confirmed towns through Lucky, and Bub can eventually be investigated.

So just to clarify, the logical best solution is lynch Elmo, investigate one of me, Arugula or TheWorst through Lucky, Bub protect-watches Lucky and we then lynch one of the two of (me, Arugula, TheWorst) who isn't confirmed by Lucky. We then lynch the last non-confirmed town last day if we don't catch the last scum by then.

Scumhunter · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:24 pm

I'm going to need to reread, but I'm thinking last scum could be Arugula?

Arugula · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:26 pm

^^Nope

I'm thinking Elmo or McStab.

VOTE: Elmo

McStab seems too certain that this game will go to LyLo. I don't like it, but Elmo's wanting to kill a PR is scummier.

Scumhunter · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:30 pm

Well if we lynch Elmo and McStab, then yea the game probably would go to lylo now wouldn't it...

Arugula · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:52 pm

Not if they are scum.

Luckyjt · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:06 pm

Wait what is a watcher exactly? A watcher watches what people do correct. Like last night Bub targeted Venmar and said Venmar visited me or did I read wrong?

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:08 pm

In post 513, TheWorst wrote:I want defense from Elmo now.

What defense do you want? IM NOT GIVING YOU ONE. Seriously. What real reason do you have for voting me aside wanting to lynch Bub? Granted the watcher could be town. And we know the Role Cop is town now. But hey let's lynch the most paranoid fuck in the town. Go Town. Your fucking bright.