TENET - Game Over

[Sirius9121]

damn

[Hench Princesses]

so we should turnstile the believed scum on day 1 and day 2
if its pure town in this thread before night 2, we're all confirmed town!
but the inverted thread will turnstile the scum
and...
we need coordination?

Oh, wow.

This is genius.

the problem is that we can only turnstile *once* before the other thread is forced to turnstile

so, theoretically we don't know how scum approached the setup. They might have wanted to dominate one thread with the 4 man team or they might have wanted to play it safe with a 3-3 split.

But *we should play* as though scum are dumb and did a 4-2 split. So if we hit scum in one thread, we should *turnstile the scummiest person* after that to the other thread, and then the other thread should stop turnstiling until it is confirmed there are still scum in the thread.

But yes we should absolutely be playing 'both threads' on the assumption that we we can actually fully eliminate scum from one thread and get like a massive mechanical townblock lol

-E

[unwnd]

I see someone peering over to this thread

Why is skitter giving reads on players here and not in their own thread

Any time warpers or viewers may ask for me thanks

[Hench Princesses]

Bench - does it or she work for your collective hydra or is there a preference for your other head?

(Sorry ahead of time if I mess it up if so, I’m bad at signatures)

I'll let Scorpia answer that (even though I'm pretty sure I know the answer)

-E

[Hench Princesses]

I also townread Skitter but I'm not yet prioritizing reads from the other thread

-E

[Brian Skies]

If you don't belong here, get out bruh.

I know we're awesome and all, but there's a line, and it's called the public turnstile.

[Hench Princesses]

As the timestreams move into the days already experienced by the opposing timestream, Operatives who died in those phases will return to life for one day only. Operatives return on the day matching the phase number they died in (so if someone died night 2 in the forwards timestream, they would return in day 2 of the inverted timestream). As these Operatives are only temporarily returned to life, they have limits upon them. They may not vote or use roles, and may only post 25 posts, each limited to 200 words. As well, they can only post in the timestream they are returning to - not the merged timestream.

@mod

just to make sure we're clear, these rules do not change at all for hydras? and what is the punishment for minor infractions (like accidentally hitting 201 words or something)?

-E

[Brian Skies]

I like the idea of yeeting scummy players out of our thread.

[SirCakez]

As the timestreams move into the days already experienced by the opposing timestream, Operatives who died in those phases will return to life for one day only. Operatives return on the day matching the phase number they died in (so if someone died night 2 in the forwards timestream, they would return in day 2 of the inverted timestream). As these Operatives are only temporarily returned to life, they have limits upon them. They may not vote or use roles, and may only post 25 posts, each limited to 200 words. As well, they can only post in the timestream they are returning to - not the merged timestream.

@mod

just to make sure we're clear, these rules do not change at all for hydras? and what is the punishment for minor infractions (like accidentally hitting 201 words or something)?

-E

No change for hydras
For a minor infraction I would delete the post and make them edit it down

[unwnd]

I like the idea of just voting them more, and then using turnstile for more contextual actions as the thread opens up

[Hench Princesses]

In theory it'd be nice if one of the two threads could decide to only turnstile its towniest reads and the other thread could turnstile its scummiest reads but I don't know there's any way to actually execute that level of coordination without being able to talk to people in the other thread directly

I agree that we should be turnstiling our second scummiest slots in our thread (after the slots we plan to flip), and it'd be nice if the other thread turnstiled their towniest slots in response so we could keep up that pattern but

@other thread

if you want to just flat out reject this plan feel free to say so, I have no way of enforcing it and don't want to fight about it tbh

-E

[Sirius9121]

I like the idea of yeeting scummy players out of our thread.

well we should eliminate the scummiest ones and just... turnstile the second most scummy ones?

or the third since the deadline for confirming everyone be town is day 2 elim/turn?

[unwnd]

Sirius' heart is in the right place but something tells me turnstiling scum can be beneficial to them

[unwnd]

There's a reason they were given a choice to distribute themselves, I wouldn't even be shocked if those numbers for Sator did something

[Sirius9121]

Sirius' heart is in the right place but something tells me turnstiling scum can be beneficial to them

tbh if no scum is here scum doesn't get to kill here
why would i like scum here
i want to live longer!

[Sirius9121]

There's a reason they were given a choice to distribute themselves, I wouldn't even be shocked if those numbers for Sator did something

Maybe we get different role lists for different numbers

[Hench Princesses]

Yeah, the numbers give Sator the ability to choose how they manipulate the game state. The obvious 'best' choice is a 3-3 split given the way the mechanics work, which means they can try to manipulate the reads of the game for when things go back to combined by gambiting on a 4-2 split to screw with us

By the end of the game that ability to choose will really F with our reads probably

-E

[unwnd]

It's not a practiced idea nor worth obsessing about, in that sense I don't know why Mech Princess has lead with only postulation

[unwnd]

I call out to the void to ask the other thread what they think of Brian Skies so far

[Sirius9121]

Sirius9121 is a town in the other thread btw. All growlithes are town.

[Brian Skies]

I think I'm fine with the idea of them sending their towniest players over here and we can send our scumreads over there.

[Imperium]

I should finish reading the setup. I stopped halfway through and didn’t know we came back to life.

[Imperium]

I think that the idea of getting a scum free timeline (and only focusing on one) is pretty fucking great. I would like to knock scum into the other timeline. Yes, I am sure that different scum distributions give scum different abilities, but I think the upswing of a scum free timeline is worth the attempt.

[Sirius9121]

@Inverted Timestream

Would you be fine of the idea of y'all sending your towniest players over here and we sending our scumreads over?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am pumped for this game.

I read the rules once and as far as I understand them, this should be more or less right:

We should try to eliminate all bad guys in ONE TIMESTREAM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

This is like focus firing in an real time strategy game. Win ONE battle, not try to win both.

The rewards for winning one battle are tremendous. The second we annihilate SATOR in one of the two time-streams,

every single person in that timestream becomes an IC

However there is a time limit for this bonus - it must happen BEFORE night 2.

"If all Sator Operatives are eliminated in one timesteam at any time night 2 and before, it will be announced in the respective thread."

I assume SATOR would distribute their units at 3-3 to make it so its unlikely we can get this bonus because we only have 2 elims - however if we treat the turnstile as a secondary elimination mechanism, we actually have 4 eliminations to try to reach this goal.

So for example if this timeline is the one where we r fighting for dominance in, we would be elimming the 2 scummiest slots and firing via turnstile 2 more scummy slots into the inverted timeline - if we eliminate all the baddies prior to n2 we basically have a full IC team and we can just mop up whoever survives in the other timeline when the pincer occurs with a fully stacked IC team.

So in my mind I'm treating the turnstile as a secondary elimination mechanism prior to N2 with caveats.

I like everyone who seems to be onboard for this idea its dope af.