Team Mafia 2015 Winners: Young and Beautiful

[Tammy]

Are the captains in?

To the best of my knowledge, yes. We don't yet have a 4th, though.

Yep and yep. The fourth is something we need to figure out eventually.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm willing to team up with anyone who needs a member. Otherwise I'll just hope for singles signups.

how does this work?

In order to sign up for Team Mafia, you need a four person team. There are no formal ways to form a team: just PM people you want to see as teammates and gauge their response. Once you have a team and team mafia starts, you assign yourselves different roles in different games: you all share a private topic and can talk about all games privately amongst yourselves.

[zoraster]

Look For Team Spreadsheet

THIS SPREADSHEET IS NOT THE SIGN UPS

Just a little spreadsheet to help individuals and incomplete teams find teams. This is just for convenience. You'll need to PM members on the list to form your team.

[zoraster]

ooops forgot to share. now you should be able to edit

[EspeciallyTheLies]

ego

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Zor, 3 questions:
1) Is it public information how each team spends its tokens?
2) If not, are you allowed to talk about how you spend your tokens?
3) Are team members allowed to talk face-to-face?

[copper223]

I'm willing to team up with anyone who needs a member. Otherwise I'll just hope for singles signups.

Ditto, would be happy to play with you if you are trying to form a team Alchemist.

[zoraster]

Zor, 3 questions:
1) Is it public information how each team spends its tokens?
2) If not, are you allowed to talk about how you spend your tokens?
3) Are team members allowed to talk face-to-face?

1. No
2. Yes
3. I can't really regulate it, but I'd prefer communication happen where it can bring the whole team into the conversation.

[zoraster]

Guys, please don't abuse the spreadsheet. It's intended to be helpful. It's not really funny to put names of other people.

[Zachrulez]

3. During the side selection phase, each team may place the up to 5 remaning tokens on the games they are in, selecting which side they'd prefer. Each team is automatically entered into each side once, and each token will enter them in for the side of preference one more time.

Took two things from this. Both sides automatically get one town and one scum draw, and the tokens influence the likelihood of the other two draws?

[zoraster]

Yeah, that's actually sort of a temporary placeholder for the actual mathematical way I'll do it (since actually having equal numbers of tokens on each side doesn't work out), but the essence is that you get to influence which side your individual players get but don't get to decide it, and it's connected to both stages.

Previous versions had a ton of outright guessing based on team compositions since you got all the role pms at once and decided who was taking what role (so if you're in a game with Mina who thinks she can't play scum, you can be reasonably confident that she would have made her teammates give her town). This way there's a little of that, but really no sure things. That's particularly true if everyone tries to get town in a certain game, for example.

[Zachrulez]

Yeah, that's actually sort of a temporary placeholder for the actual mathematical way I'll do it (since actually having equal numbers of tokens on each side doesn't work out), but the essence is that you get to influence which side your individual players get but don't get to decide it, and it's connected to both stages.

Previous versions had a ton of outright guessing based on team compositions since you got all the role pms at once and decided who was taking what role (so if you're in a game with Mina who thinks she can't play scum, you can be reasonably confident that she would have made her teammates give her town). This way there's a little of that, but really no sure things. That's particularly true if everyone tries to get town in a certain game, for example.

You mentioned in that each side is automatically chosen once. Does that guarantee a town and a scum draw then or am I just not reading that right?

[zoraster]

no, absolutely not.

This is the updated token side selection:

Side Selection

If unaltered by tokens, each player in the game has a random number generated between 500 and 600. The lowest X numbers are Mafia (where X is the number of Mafia in the game).
Each token put on Mafia on the game lowers the lower bound by 100. Each token put on Town on the game raises the upper bound by 80.

Numbers are definitely subject to change.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Zor, 3 questions:
1) Is it public information how each team spends its tokens?
2) If not, are you allowed to talk about how you spend your tokens?
3) Are team members allowed to talk face-to-face?

1. No
2. Yes
3. I can't really regulate it, but I'd prefer communication happen where it can bring the whole team into the conversation.

So you can say e.g. that your team used all its tokens to try and get one of your team mates a scum alignment?

[zoraster]

You can, but still must follow this:

Your Teammates are Always Innocent Until Proven Guilty
1. You may at no time say, indicate, insinuate, etc. that your Team Mafia teammates are or might be anything other than town. This includes in any hypothetical situation.
2. Exception: You may talk about your teammates being scum if they have flipped scum in another game (i.e. are dead).
3. If a player is NOT on your team and is still alive in another game, you must follow the rules in the Talking About Other Games thread. In other words, you may not speculate on a player's alignment in another game.

[ZZZX]

3. If a player is NOT on your team and is still alive in another game, you must follow the rules in the Talking About Other Games thread. In other words, you may not speculate on a player's alignment in another game.

so you cant help your team mate in scum hunting etc??

[Zachrulez]

no, absolutely not.

This is the updated token side selection:

Side Selection

If unaltered by tokens, each player in the game has a random number generated between 500 and 600. The lowest X numbers are Mafia (where X is the number of Mafia in the game).
Each token put on Mafia on the game lowers the lower bound by 100. Each token put on Town on the game raises the upper bound by 80.

Numbers are definitely subject to change.

Sounds interesting. I'm still confused as to how the numbers will work, but I imagine that will get more clear as we get closer to the games and if not we can just ask outright about it in out PTs.

I will say it's definitely an improvement that alignment selection is happening after the game choices.

[zoraster]

3. If a player is NOT on your team and is still alive in another game, you must follow the rules in the Talking About Other Games thread. In other words, you may not speculate on a player's alignment in another game.

so you cant help your team mate in scum hunting etc??

This refers to another section. Please read section.

[Fenchurch]

so you cant help your team mate in scum hunting etc??

Pretty sure that you can do that all you like in your team's private topic, you just can't do it 'publicly' in the thread for the game that you're in.

[ZZZX]

so you cant help your team mate in scum hunting etc??

Pretty sure that you can do that all you like in your team's private topic, you just can't do it 'publicly' in the thread for the game that you're in.

Oh thats what it ment. Thanks.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

/ego

Would be up for this if anyone wants me.

[Zachrulez]

So ummm, I tried to bookmark this topic and it's not showing up in my bookmarks. The option to remove it is below as it should be. Weird.

[SleepyKrew]

Can't bookmark global announcements.

[Zachrulez]

Apparently you can, they just don't show up in your bookmarks.

[Aeronaut]

I just subscribed to it