Mini 352- Saints and Sinners Mafia - Abandoned

[mikanoff]

I don't understand very well the reasons for this bandwagon... Why? What has toki said for you want to lynch him?

I would like you explained me the reasons, I'm confused

[Patrick]

I don't get it either, so I'm assuming it's just somewhere to get started.

[ibaesha]

Kelly, I didn't understand your mention of 'providing fake roleclaims' or whatever. If your willing to explain (I'm guessing some joke) could you?

Yes, could you?

I'm not totally sure of this tokiyoh bandwagon; we're going to lynch him for getting a lot of scum roles, and posting fluffily?

No, we're going to pressure him for it so he knows he won't get away with it. It's too early to decide who to lynch. And bandwagonning anyone can bear fruit besides.

I don't understand very well the reasons for this bandwagon... Why? What has toki said for you want to lynch him?

Again, it's too early to determine who is the best lynch today. The reasons for the bandwagon are 1. To start a bandwagon on someone and see what happens because of it. 2. Because I personally want to see toki hunt scum instead of posting fluff and being non-committal for once. The second refers less to toki in this game and more to toki's past history in other games.

I'm sticking to the toki wagon for now, but could return to my Kelly vote. I'm not sure if she's pro-town and being silly or scum trying to spin a ridiculous amount of WIFOM early on.

[Bacde]

I still support this bandwagon. I didn't really understand tokiyoh's last post.

Mikanoff- You have to realize that while lynches are a tool for eliminating scum, votes in themself are a tool for determining who exactly is scum.

Something I notice is that Ibae and I are in a similar vibe. It makes me feel uncomfortable since right now I can't get a read on her. Probably just because it is too early in the game.

[tokiyoh]

I don't mind the wagon actually,

since Ibby started it, and

as far as i can recall, i've been scum in the past i-don't-know-how-many games that i played with Ibby. What i don't quite understand is Kelly's interest in me. I'm sorry but.. do we know each other

that

well? o___O (<<-- or are you someone i know under a different name??)

[Kelly Chen]

Kelly, I didn't understand your mention of 'providing fake roleclaims' or whatever. If your willing to explain (I'm guessing some joke) could you?

Yes, could you?


I'm sticking to the toki wagon for now, but could return to my Kelly vote. I'm not sure if she's pro-town and being silly or scum trying to spin a ridiculous amount of WIFOM early on.

What's the WIFOM?

I suggest that people not be suspicious of me offering fake claims to the scum. Especially in an open setup. It's quite harmless and could even catch somebody.

I don't mind the wagon actually,

since Ibby started it, and

as far as i can recall, i've been scum in the past i-don't-know-how-many games that i played with Ibby. What i don't quite understand is Kelly's interest in me. I'm sorry but.. do we know each other

that

well? o___O (<<-- or are you someone i know under a different name??)

You mean well enough to know your alignment already?

I read your first post and just assumed... You joked about random voting, declined to vote anyone, and sort of echoed what mikanoff had said about the double lynch:

Haha~ i don't think that can be called "proved random" since we don't know if the dice thing was true to begine with **LOL

Anyways.

No random vote from me but hi to everyone. About the double lynching possibility, i'd say we start playing the 1-lynch game normally, and when someone sees need of a double lynch, we can debate over that then. But of course Bishop holds the final decision.

Yes, but using this ability first day, I think is too hasty. I think we should save the double-lynch for second day. Then, we will lynch with more accuracy.
Anyway, the bishop will be who finally decides when he uses his abilities xD

[ibaesha]

Kelly: You're acting weird in my opinion. And it's like openly weird. Which causes me to wonder. "If Kelly was scum would she act openly weird?" Then basically, "Why would she act that way if she were scum?" It'd draw attention to you. But then you could be scum that knows that people would think that and decide you weren't suspicious afterall, etc. It spins into WIFOM in my head and it bothers me.

[Kelly Chen]

This isn't too different from my scumchat play, is it?

[al_kohaulec]

This isn't too different from my scumchat play, is it?

I wouldn't know, the only time I remember seeing you in there is when you modded that game, so I don't know what your scumchat play is like.

[Bacde]

Offering fake claims is really wierd, and it doesn't really help us or hinder us.

[Pie_is_good]

I don't mind the wagon actually blah blah blah

This tripped my Scumdar. Of course you mind the wagon. Everybody minds a wagon on them. This sounds to me like trying to write it off.

I mean, the original logic was pretty crappy - he'd been scum in the past and he lurks alot. But he agreed with it, and the fact that it was his own wagon is nothing more than ironic.

Vote: Tokiyoh

!votecount

[Kelly Chen]

I got Ibby, alko, Bacde, and Pie on tokiyoh.

unvote

[Bacde]

Sounds right.

[tokiyoh]

I read your first post and just assumed... You joked about random voting, declined to vote anyone, and sort of echoed what mikanoff had said about the double lynch:
tokiyoh earlier wrote:

Haha~ i don't think that can be called "proved random" since we don't know if the dice thing was true to begine with **LOL

Anyways.

No random vote from me but hi to everyone. About the double lynching possibility, i'd say we start playing the 1-lynch game normally, and when someone sees need of a double lynch, we can debate over that then. But of course Bishop holds the final decision.

mikanoff earlier wrote:

Yes, but using this ability first day, I think is too hasty. I think we should save the double-lynch for second day. Then, we will lynch with more accuracy.
Anyway, the bishop will be who finally decides when he uses his abilities xD

I

echoed

? I thought my point was

we'll play normally until need of double lynch is seen

- which in my opinion, is quite different from

let's double-lynch on Day 2

suggested here.

Kelly, if it's because i never placed a random vote then i'll tell you that i have never in my mafia career placed such a vote, so it doesn't say anything at all about what my role is. Or, if you are following Ibby or something like that, just admit it like others did. You're only drawing attention to yourself right now.

Of course you mind the wagon. Everybody minds a wagon on them. This sounds to me like trying to write it off.

It's Day 1 starting and i'm nowhere near to be lynched; let alone the fact that this was a random wagon intended for information gathering to begin with.

[Kelly Chen]

Don't worry about me, I'm not even voting you.

[al_kohaulec]

I got Ibby, alko, Bacde, and Pie on tokiyoh.

unvote

dang, I thought I was on the other bandwagon. GJ Kelly .

However, if he doesn't really say anything other than "I don't mind the bandwagon" I don't think I'll be taking my vote off anytime soon...

[Pope Pius IX]

VOTE COUNT

4-tokiyoh (Ibaesha,al_kohaulec,Bacde,Pie_is_good)
2-Mastermind of Sin (Yosarian2, Mastermind of Sin)
1-Ibaesha (nonny)
1-Bacde (yellowbounder)
1-nonny (Patrick)
1-Patrick (mikanoff)


Not voting: tokiyoh, Kelly Chen

12 alive, 7 to lynch!

[Kelly Chen]

Holy crap, I was just going to vote for him, too.

[Pope Pius IX]

To anyone who saw the post above kelly's, disregard it. no one is being replaced.

[Yosarian2]

This tokiyoh bandwagon is pointless, and it's not going anywhere. I think I'll do something else.

unvote:MOS

vote:nonny

[Kelly Chen]

I didn't think it was pointless...

Is a nonny wagon better than an MOS wagon?

[Patrick]

There can't be much to pick between who to wagon first. For what it's worth I would rather wagon a lurker than non lurker. Which tends to lurk the most?

[al_kohaulec]

unvote
vote: kelly

For now I don't see a better candidate.

[Yosarian2]

There can't be much to pick between who to wagon first. For what it's worth I would rather wagon a lurker than non lurker. Which tends to lurk the most?

Well, that's why I'm voting nonny, only 1 post so far this game.

[Yosarian2]

I didn't think it was pointless...

...but you're not on it, either. I've got to say your behavior hasn't made much sense to me so far this game.