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Post Post #4825 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:39 am

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In post 4822, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 4819, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4817, Solar Wind wrote:Anti, you should probably get in here and talk. It's not going to go well if we are erroneously scumreading you guys.

You do realize this is exactly the kind of vague threat that's been pissing them off, right?


I do. What do you think has been pissing me off?

That you expect to be townread by everyone who knows your game because you've been playing to your town meta and I'm not letting you get away with it.
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Post Post #4826 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:41 am

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In post 4823, Heartless wrote:
In post 4819, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4817, Solar Wind wrote:Anti, you should probably get in here and talk. It's not going to go well if we are erroneously scumreading you guys.

You do realize this is exactly the kind of vague threat that's been pissing them off, right?

And it reinforces the idea that they're playing to a certain meta and
they're well aware of it.
They couldn't have given less than a shit about Anti and what he had to say when he was in here before but
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they want him in here because he's got all this great meta knowledge that's going to help them out.


It has nothing to do with correcting your read of us, because I don't give a fuck about your read if you're scum. It has to do with making sure we're not misreading you.

I've been waiting around for Anti to post for at least 24 hours. If any of the posts in that timefram was him, I didn't realize it.
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Post Post #4827 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:42 am

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Anti hasn't been here all weekend and likely won't be here today.

Who else is there in the bucket besides us, mastin, and Ceph?
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Post Post #4828 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:44 am

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Ceph and mastin are it for my paranoia bucket. And you're not in the paranoia bucket. That's where you started the game day.
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Post Post #4829 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:55 am

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In post 4799, Skybird wrote:
In post 4792, Metal Sonic wrote:Hey mask, solar wind the stern mommy wants the hammer so she is very angry that you hammered yesterday! Don't hammer again today okay or she will be very angry :(


MS, why are you telling Mask what the issue was instead of making Mask engage in the game and look it up? I've noticed a couple of instances where you answer questions meant for other people too. What gives?


I do that. I am an "interrupter".

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Post Post #4830 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:56 am

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In post 4828, Solar Wind wrote:Ceph and mastin are it for my paranoia bucket. And you're not in the paranoia bucket. That's where you started the game day.

The way you're engaging all three of those are non-existent. What are you suddenly wanting from Anti now that you didn't before?
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Post Post #4831 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:58 am

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You scumlist is: us, maybe aceofspades, maybe beastcharizard, maybe TD if your neighborhood has scum.

Is that it?
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Post Post #4832 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:01 am

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In post 4830, Heartless wrote:
In post 4828, Solar Wind wrote:Ceph and mastin are it for my paranoia bucket. And you're not in the paranoia bucket. That's where you started the game day.

The way you're engaging all three of those are non-existent.


Two, not three. I've interacted with both of them, but atm I'm in observation mode.

What are you suddenly wanting from Anti now that you didn't before?


Reactions and interactions. data. what makes you think I didn't want them before?
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Post Post #4833 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:03 am

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In post 4831, Heartless wrote:You scumlist is: us, maybe aceofspades, maybe beastcharizard, maybe TD if your neighborhood has scum.

Is that it?


TSO, also. F-16 and I are overdue a synch, so things may change.
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Post Post #4834 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:04 am

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cops are desperately needed. but it is only day 2. i should practice patience.
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Post Post #4835 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:05 am

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In post 4829, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 4799, Skybird wrote:
In post 4792, Metal Sonic wrote:Hey mask, solar wind the stern mommy wants the hammer so she is very angry that you hammered yesterday! Don't hammer again today okay or she will be very angry :(


MS, why are you telling Mask what the issue was instead of making Mask engage in the game and look it up? I've noticed a couple of instances where you answer questions meant for other people too. What gives?


I do that. I am an "interrupter".

that is not a wrong thing to do


It can be a very wrong thing to do, depending on where the line of questioning would go without your interruption.
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Post Post #4836 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:07 am

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that is hypothetical. it is true that i should learn to shut up. but i find that in mafia, it is better to play unrestrained (or at most not break the rules)
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Post Post #4837 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:08 am

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In post 4832, Solar Wind wrote:Reactions and interactions. data. what makes you think I didn't want them before?

He posted
three
reads lists, two of them his and one of them mine, and we didn't hear the first peep from you. There's votes on skybird and Rach, who you supposedly would be scumreading if not for Nacho (?).

Solar Wind wrote:
In post 4831, Heartless wrote:You scumlist is: us, maybe aceofspades, maybe beastcharizard, maybe TD if your neighborhood has scum.

Is that it?

TSO, also. F-16 and I are overdue a synch, so things may change.

So, three popular or easy targets and the person suspecting you. Got it.
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Post Post #4838 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:08 am

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In post 4836, Metal Sonic wrote:that is hypothetical. it is true that i should learn to shut up. but i find that in mafia, it is better to play unrestrained (or at most not break the rules)


As long as you're prepared to be scorched if you stomp through my questions, that should be good enough, I guess.
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Post Post #4839 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:16 am

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In post 4837, Heartless wrote:
In post 4832, Solar Wind wrote:Reactions and interactions. data. what makes you think I didn't want them before?

He posted
three
reads lists, two of them his and one of them mine, and we didn't hear the first peep from you. There's votes on skybird and Rach, who you supposedly would be scumreading if not for Nacho (?).

Solar Wind wrote:
In post 4831, Heartless wrote:You scumlist is: us, maybe aceofspades, maybe beastcharizard, maybe TD if your neighborhood has scum.

Is that it?

TSO, also. F-16 and I are overdue a synch, so things may change.

So, three popular or easy targets and the person suspecting you. Got it.


Skybird is interesting. She's made some posts I hated and some posts I liked. Early in the game day I was thinking she's scum, based on a post during the late-day-1 frenzy that I thought looked like a grab for towncred. I really liked the way she's questioned Vezok about beast not too long ago. But, I think in this player list she is an easy target, too.

And I don't know where I would have fallen on Rach. I thought she looked very town at the start of the game, and Nacho agreed. My reads tend to fade if a player doesn't continue to do stuff I like for town. She wouldn't be a strong towread at this point, but I wouldn't have been happy to see her in the gladiate pool.
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Post Post #4840 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:20 am

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How do you support the argument that you're first in line for the nightkill?
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Post Post #4841 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:27 am

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In post 4840, Heartless wrote:How do you support the argument that you're first in line for the nightkill?


It's not an argument. It's a history-based premonition fueled by paranoia about Mastin drawing big red arrows toward me. And it's not a question of whether I'm first in line. Just that I'm in line, so I have to make the days I get count. I don't take them for granted. Having a neighborhood where I can braindump for the next game day takes some of the pressure off.
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Post Post #4842 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:57 am

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What's the reasoning behind the aceofspades's scumread?
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Post Post #4843 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:26 am

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Same reasoning Mastin has put forward, basically.
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Post Post #4844 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:37 am

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But you're still paranoid of mastin...
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Post Post #4845 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:39 am

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Indeed.
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Post Post #4846 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:41 am

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That makes no sense.
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Post Post #4847 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:42 am

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In post 4836, Metal Sonic wrote:that is hypothetical. it is true that i should learn to shut up. but i find that in mafia, it is better to play unrestrained (or at most not break the rules)

I 2nd this. but it does make it harder for those poor souls who cant keep up,. noonetheless it IS a good thing that shows your inneremotions
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Post Post #4848 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:46 am

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It makes perfect sense.

1. paranoia does not equal scum read. It's a townread that I can't bring myself to trust and put to bed for now.

2. the fact that a player has similar reasoning to mine about a read disposes me to town read them a little, but it's part of a grand picture, not the whole picture itself.

3. In my 2+ years playing at MS I have NEVER sheeped mastin. We sometimes vote together but it's because we independently come to the same conclusion, or because one of us (mastin, since I've never been scum in any game we've played together) sees scum-advantage in voting the same way.
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Post Post #4849 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:00 am

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Right, so what happened with Ceph that made you think he's town?
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