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...Could you unvote, actually? I want to be on the wagon, just as a matter of personal... personship. I started it, I should own it.
Plus I don't trust you to surprise shift your vote towards the end of the day.I have little hope for democracy as an effective means of government, but I admire the poetry of how it makes its victims complicit in their own destruction.-
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To the people thinking scum would jump off an L-1 wagon they know is Town,
Scum would not do that. If you're scum, and the Town wagon you're on is at L-1, you are getting no flak for it, and there's a good chance they're going to be lynched, you stay on the lynch and let it happen. This is why gamma is Town.
I've played a lot of games with firebringer, in fact he's probably the player I've played with most out of anyone else on the site. He's definitely more serious and cares more about the game when he's Town than when he's scum. His reaction to his L-1 status yesterday proved to me that he's Town.
And because of my confidence in firebringer being Town, I am also that confident in CR being Town for the same reason that Gamma is Town - they unvoted a Town wagon at L-1.
Those are my 3 Townreads and why I am extremely confident in all of them.
Black Star is my most confident scumread because of his dodgy responses to my questions at the end of they day yesterday, and how he's someone shifted his readfrom xyzzy to CR for the same reason he was scumreading xyzzy while now Townreading xyzzy.He also blatantly lied about how much his xyzzy read depended on Key's flip (he even quoted the lie, and I'll re-quote it if you people need me to).
The shift from xyzzy to CR is what makes me lean on xyzzy being the scumpartner to Black Star, but I'm not certain of that. I am certain that the partner is either xyzzy or BTD, just on the PoE of the 3 Townreads.-
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1) there was nothing dodgy about my responsesIn post 478, Alchemist21 wrote:To the people thinking scum would jump off an L-1 wagon they know is Town,
Scum would not do that. If you're scum, and the Town wagon you're on is at L-1, you are getting no flak for it, and there's a good chance they're going to be lynched, you stay on the lynch and let it happen. This is why gamma is Town.
I've played a lot of games with firebringer, in fact he's probably the player I've played with most out of anyone else on the site. He's definitely more serious and cares more about the game when he's Town than when he's scum. His reaction to his L-1 status yesterday proved to me that he's Town.
And because of my confidence in firebringer being Town, I am also that confident in CR being Town for the same reason that Gamma is Town - they unvoted a Town wagon at L-1.
Those are my 3 Townreads and why I am extremely confident in all of them.
Black Star is my most confident scumread because of his dodgy responses to my questions at the end of they day yesterday, and how he's someone shifted his readfrom xyzzy to CR for the same reason he was scumreading xyzzy while now Townreading xyzzy.He also blatantly lied about how much his xyzzy read depended on Key's flip (he even quoted the lie, and I'll re-quote it if you people need me to).
The shift from xyzzy to CR is what makes me lean on xyzzy being the scumpartner to Black Star, but I'm not certain of that. I am certain that the partner is either xyzzy or BTD, just on the PoE of the 3 Townreads.
2) I'm not scum reading comparing realities. I've already said that so I don't know why you're ignoring it. I guess it's because it doesn't fit in with your tunnel on me.
3) I didn't lie about anything lol. I said I wasn't sure how it would affect my read and then in the post directly after it I said that if key was scum then xyzzy was probably scum. Key was town and most of my reason for scumreading xyzzy was that they were defending each other, so it wouldn't make sense to still scum read him after that flip.
Come at me with another BS post, Bruh.
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Mas y Menos Goon
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Wait in what world are you the person with the second lowest scumreads?In post 465, xyzzy wrote:Alchemist21: 4
BlackStar: 4
BTD6_Maker: 1
Comparing Realities: 3
Gamma Emerald: 4
Mas y Menos: 3
xyzzy: 2
Thats a messed up world.
Also Alchemist and Blackstar my two top scumreads are scumread 4 times? Fuck that.
You all have bad reads and should feel ashamed
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This is by far the worst reads list in this game yet.In post 459, Comparing Realities wrote:Why is nobody talking about how Black Star threw the wagon from Mas to Key? We've been over this before. Also, I'm waiting on a certain stimuli to present a certain argument.
Scum: Mas, Black, Alchemist
Town: Gamma, Xyzzy, BTD6
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If your town.In post 473, Comparing Realities wrote:Even though I am very sure Mas is scum, I don't want to save them for D3 because A) the 20% they are scum could ruin everything if I'm wrong, and B) I will probably want stability more than better chances going into D3. Double the chance of lynching scum isn't worth it if our reads aren't solid, and right now, I think everyone is scum.
Consider lynching XYZ tomorrow pls.
Cause I am flipping town, and your reads list is by far the most terrible thing in this game.
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In post 475, Comparing Realities wrote:...Could you unvote, actually? I want to be on the wagon, just as a matter of personal... personship. I started it, I should own it.
Plus I don't trust you to surprise shift your vote towards the end of the day.
the fuck is this postIn post 477, Comparing Realities wrote:VOTE: Mas Y Menos
Nothing against you, really, I just want this to be a controlled, well-though out wagon. The anti-key.
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In post 482, Mas y Menos wrote:In post 459, Comparing Realities wrote:Why is nobody talking about how Black Star threw the wagon from Mas to Key? We've been over this before. Also, I'm waiting on a certain stimuli to present a certain argument.
Scum: Mas,Black, Alchemist
Town: Gamma, Xyzzy, BTD6This is by far the worst reads list in this game yet.
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Sounds like you think my reads are actually pretty good.In post 481, Mas y Menos wrote:
Wait in what world are you the person with the second lowest scumreads?In post 465, xyzzy wrote:Alchemist21: 4
BlackStar: 4
BTD6_Maker: 1
Comparing Realities: 3
Gamma Emerald: 4
Mas y Menos: 3
xyzzy: 2
Thats a messed up world.
Alsoare scumread 4 times? Fuck that.Alchemist and Blackstar my two top scumreads
You all have bad reads and should feel ashamed
~Mas Y
You have to understand, I'm not good at making friends.In post 484, Mas y Menos wrote:In post 475, Comparing Realities wrote:...Could you unvote, actually? I want to be on the wagon, just as a matter of personal... personship. I started it, I should own it.
Plus I don't trust you to surprise shift your vote towards the end of the day.
the fuck is this postIn post 477, Comparing Realities wrote:VOTE: Mas Y Menos
Nothing against you, really, I just want this to be a controlled, well-though out wagon. The anti-key.
~Menos
*ahem*
Love the avatar, fire. <3
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Can we be friends now?I have little hope for democracy as an effective means of government, but I admire the poetry of how it makes its victims complicit in their own destruction.-
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Are you rewording my posts?
I said BlackStar and Alchemist are my top 2 townreads.....
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Fixed. Don't know why I said scumreads there.In post 481, Mas y Menos wrote:
Wait in what world are you the person with the second lowest scumreads?In post 465, xyzzy wrote:Alchemist21: 4
BlackStar: 4
BTD6_Maker: 1
Comparing Realities: 3
Gamma Emerald: 4
Mas y Menos: 3
xyzzy: 2
Thats a messed up world.
Also Alchemist and Blackstar my two top townreads are scumread 4 times? Fuck that.
You all have bad reads and should feel ashamed
~Mas Y
Yeah, Alchemist and BLackstar are strong town for me.
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We can be friends post game if you stop being bad town like I suspect you are being.In post 485, Comparing Realities wrote:You have to understand, I'm not good at making friends.
*ahem*
Love the avatar, fire. <3
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Can we be friends now?
In mafia there are no friends! Except the ones I am friendly with because they are my friends. Like alchemist.
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Could be. I don't think so anymore, I am leaning more bad town now.
I think your way more likely scum than him.
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fb why is alchemist scum
you can't answer that because you're scum! checkmate
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Menos we should talk more lol. Or at least once outside the game thread.
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No, we don't have one.
We both agree your being very weird gamma like all game long.
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the words have been spoken
gamma emerald is very likely scum
xyzzy is scum too
we should lynch gamma emerald tomorrow
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Your reason for scumreading Xyzzy was that he wasIn post 480, BlackStar wrote:
1) there was nothing dodgy about my responsesIn post 478, Alchemist21 wrote:To the people thinking scum would jump off an L-1 wagon they know is Town,
Scum would not do that. If you're scum, and the Town wagon you're on is at L-1, you are getting no flak for it, and there's a good chance they're going to be lynched, you stay on the lynch and let it happen. This is why gamma is Town.
I've played a lot of games with firebringer, in fact he's probably the player I've played with most out of anyone else on the site. He's definitely more serious and cares more about the game when he's Town than when he's scum. His reaction to his L-1 status yesterday proved to me that he's Town.
And because of my confidence in firebringer being Town, I am also that confident in CR being Town for the same reason that Gamma is Town - they unvoted a Town wagon at L-1.
Those are my 3 Townreads and why I am extremely confident in all of them.
Black Star is my most confident scumread because of his dodgy responses to my questions at the end of they day yesterday, and how he's someone shifted his readfrom xyzzy to CR for the same reason he was scumreading xyzzy while now Townreading xyzzy.He also blatantly lied about how much his xyzzy read depended on Key's flip (he even quoted the lie, and I'll re-quote it if you people need me to).
The shift from xyzzy to CR is what makes me lean on xyzzy being the scumpartner to Black Star, but I'm not certain of that. I am certain that the partner is either xyzzy or BTD, just on the PoE of the 3 Townreads.
2) I'm not scum reading comparing realities. I've already said that so I don't know why you're ignoring it. I guess it's because it doesn't fit in with your tunnel on me.
3) I didn't lie about anything lol. I said I wasn't sure how it would affect my read and then in the post directly after it I said that if key was scum then xyzzy was probably scum. Key was town and most of my reason for scumreading xyzzy was that they were defending each other, so it wouldn't make sense to still scum read him after that flip.
Come at me with another BS post, Bruh.
floating around doing nothing. When I asked how key's flip would affect your xyzzy read, your initial response was "not sure" which tells me the reads were independent of each other up until that point, and even that you simply said Key's scumflip would make xyzzy more likely scum,not that it would erase your xyzzy scumread.When asked to sort all the players, you put CR in the scum pile while you put Xyzzy in the Town pile. Your reasoning on CR was"floating around doing nothing"You did lie and it does make sense to still be scumreading xyzzy after key's flip because Key's flip would not have changed the fact that you think xyzzy has been floating around doing nothing.
P.S. Those 1- and 2-word responses you kept giving were dodgy as fuck for someone who ripped on Gamma about not explaining themselves and giving Town enough info to work with.-
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Once again, I don't know why you're ignoring this.In post 448, BlackStar wrote:
Xyzzy being scum was dependent on key being scum. Plus I reread his iso and it wasn't really that bad. CR has basically been floating around making large posts that basically say nothing.In post 447, Alchemist21 wrote:So how did CR get in the scumreads and Xyzzy in the Town reads?I don't scum read him, but X asked us to divide everyone into the 2 groups so i put him with scum. He's null.
And these 2 posts show me finding a link between key and xyzzy.In post 227, BlackStar wrote:
You've scum read mas this whole time yet barely said anything about him? Seems legit... And then you go on to imply that if someone makes a post about you and you vote them back it can only be OMGUS and that mad must be scum because of this.In post 215, keyenpeydee wrote:
I'm okay with lynching Mas. I gotta say i kinda agree with what Comparing Realities say. Since the early game, I really suspect him though and my gut feeling says he's scum. I can't read him. Well, my read is like he's too scummy to be town.In post 214, rb wrote:Key: are you okay with Mas lynch?
And I believe when CR made a wall post that basically 50% of it is all about Mas, Mas voted CR which struck me. And since xyzzy doesn't want to answer my question, She can be lynched D3 and we'll win. But rn, Mas is a good lynch for D1.
I know, I'm putting Mas at L-1 but we need things moving.
VOTE: Mas Y MenosOh, xyzzy didn't answer the question? Then it makes even less sense for you to not pressure her for an answer.And I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that not answering a question = scum. I notice that you said "If we lynch xyzzy day 3 we'll win". That leads me to believe you're saying we'll mislynch on the first 2 days.If you believe that strongly that X is scum why wouldn't you leave your vote on her and keep pushing for her lynch?
So yeah, you either aren't reading properly or yore desperate to attempt to paint me in a scummy light. And once again, my responses weren't dodgy. If you're the only one who thinks that, then it's obviously not true.In post 348, BlackStar wrote:[It's weird that you had your vote on X for ages now and didn't try to push it at all until a couple of people started talking about him again. I mean, you were at L-1. Why didn't you fight hard to get him lynched? I just think the timing of that post was grimy as hell
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