In post 471, Axxle wrote:Don't have a lot of time (VLA) so here goes:
Lucky, Venmar: Still as scummy as they were yesterday.
TheWorst: Strongest town read
Bub: Unless he's some crazy powerbusser: town.
Arugula, McStab: Can't say off the top of my head since they're both in a concurrent game and behavior tends to run together.
Elmo: Nothing to indicate towniness. Then again, he was in my first noob game and also was a bit off the wall there as town.
Konowa: leaning town
I guess that's it. Godspeed you guys.
So in your reads you have 1 scum read and the rest null or town. Seriously WTF. I'm somewhat glad your dead now so I can see the flip. And off the wall. Eh I'm changing the way I play. Or at least trying to be more helpful
Stats not in the wiki. I'm That Crazy Panda.
I Speak Engrish Not English Leave My Grammar Alone.
Modscene coming once I've checked the votes. Have managed to snag a tiny amount of time, prioritizing this. (Before anyone in other games accuses me of avoidance!)
Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
Probable record holder for most games played on site before managing to win one!
Not even gonna bother with a VC, will go back with them later. There was indeed a lynch.
The mediator arrives to the mob, a little late. He looks like he overslept.
"Sorry, guys, I overslept!" he confirms, in flawless italian. "What did I..."
The mob parts do reveal the corpse of Axxle, very recently pulverised by the crowd.
"...miss"
Axxle, Citizen
was speedily dispatched Day 3
It is now Night 3. Deadline for Night 3 is in (expired on 2012-07-29 12:00:00)
(Corrected date for deadline. Sorry about that!)
Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
Probable record holder for most games played on site before managing to win one!
You gather again come morning. A quick headcount confirms your fears. One of you has been killed.
Venmar's missing.
As a whole, you rush towards his house, to search it. What you find there is strange, to say the least. Arcane sketches. Runes. Recipes, with weird ingredients. And Venmar, hunched over a cauldron of some kind, dead.
A single drop of blood slides down Venmar's chest from the knife into the cauldron in front of him. The liquid inside hisses violently, and green smoke shoots out of the bubbling pot. Lucky, who was standing closest at the time, is wreathed in the smoke, hidden from view. A single voice emenates from nowhere.
"This man is no murderer"
Venmar, Oracle,
was punctured Night 3.
Luckyjt, ??????,
has been confirmed as town.
It is now Day 4. Deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2012-08-13 00:00:00)
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Current Losing Streak: 4 (record: 9)
Probable record holder for most games played on site before managing to win one!
Another thought I have to try to understand why mafia wouldn't choose a VT when we were suspicious of PRs. Maybe because it would decrease the possibilities for VT lynch? My bet is that it's WIFOM hiding in VT, but I can't put my money where my mouth is. This game is still suspect on everyone's part except well the clear.
Elmo (????)
Scumhunter (Conf. Town)
Arugula (????)
TheWorst (?????)
Bub (?????)
Lucky (Conf. Town)
McStab (I'm town and I know it, but in terms of what is confirmed in an objective sense, I'm ????)
Lucky's a role cop for sure, and still is able to provide us confirmed town roles. I suggest we keep Bub watching Lucky, which should buy Lucky at least tonight to produce more confirmed town players. If we lynch one of: TheWorst, Arugula, Elmo or myself today, then they presumably kill Bub tonight (or they try to WIFOM us - either way, Lucky lives ). Lucky investigates one of TheWorst, Arugula, Elmo or myself, depending on who isn't lynched today. This produces another conf. town. We lynch out of the two of TheWorst, Arugula, myself or Elmo (one of the two who weren't lynched/investigated by Lucky). Lucky presumably dies that night, and if we still haven't caught scum out of our group of four, we lynch the last member of the group.
So, to clarify, this is the road map I propose:
Lynch one of the FOUR (Arugula, TheWorst, Elmo or myself)
Bub watches Lucky; Lucky investigates any of the surviving THREE
Bub presumably dies, but if not, it could be WIFOM - we don't deviate from the plan.
The next day, we lynch one of the TWO that isn't lynched or Lucky confirmed.
Lucky presumably dies overnight.
We're left with ONE of the original four, Scumhunter (who's conf. town), and the other Conf. Town player in LyLo.
If Bub is scum, then Lucky can continue confirming townies until it should be Lucky and a Conf. Town player versus Bud in LyLo.
This is a surefire way to catch scum. Bub, continue watching Lucky every night. Lucky can continue to investigate players every night. Don't investigate Bub though; if Bub's scum, he's stuck with you and another conf. town player in LyLo.
Post coming soon on which of the FOUR to lynch (TheWorst, Arugula, myself or Elmo).
My thoughts? Not killing Bud might be WIFOM, might not be. We can't tell for now.
Hope Lucky didn't choose Venmar.
Did you read the plan or understand it properly yesterday?
Lucky presumably checked Venmar, and Bud presumably checked Lucky.
We need to stop talking about lynching Bud, it's a bad plan today and any day until LyLo. We've got a obvious logical way to win this setup, and lynching Bub breaks that.
This makes me think that Elmo is sparing me to try and lynch me using WIFOM. He's been trying to put me in the prospective lynch pool ever since I wasn't killed N-2.
In post 488, Arugula wrote:Bub, why did you choose to watch RXK N1? That's the only doubt I have in your claim.
He was fairly vocal and got on the Tang wagon. Also, a few players listed him as town, but he wasn't so pro-town as to be an obvious doc/watcher target.
Well, The worst already claimed VT so he's pretty much conf. scum here sinc lucky is conf. town. I guess I'll wait to see his explanation but looks like we have a conf. guilty on the last scumlord here.
My thoughts? Not killing Bud might be WIFOM, might not be. We can't tell for now.
Hope Lucky didn't choose Venmar.
Did you read the plan or understand it properly yesterday?
Lucky presumably checked Venmar, and Bud presumably checked Lucky.
We need to stop talking about lynching Bud, it's a bad plan today and any day until LyLo. We've got a obvious logical way to win this setup, and lynching Bub breaks that.
I think logically WIFOM on Venmar and a VT was a better option. In fact WIFOM in general was the best option, telling mafia plans like what you did allows easy predictability and no worries for scum, as we can see here.
I already said that I think WIFOM from one of the townies. I wasn't saying we should lynch Bud today, but I did say it was quite a possibility that he could be scum.
Did you skip my next post?
That said the Elmo and Bud votes bother me. OMGUS from Bud and poor reasoning from Elmo.
I can especially see it now because I noticed something; you have been leading but Bud hasn't done anything to resemble a leader for town. It bothers me that a strong PR wouldn't take the wheel and guide us, instead we have a possible scum planning this all out.
This game is all kinds of weird. Even more odd, we're only at page 20. ON DAY THREE.
This may be true, but I want more discussion. By more I mean Bud (just realized I called him Bud instead of Bub, but I think Bud is a cool nickname) and Elmo.
