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Post Post #4625 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:10 am

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I just get annoyed when people say Temur and whatever the bug one is. We don't need new terminology for RUG or BUG. RUG and BUG are already great.
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Post Post #4626 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 4624, InflatablePie wrote:Chamber - Marshall (LR) was interviewed by the LRR guys a few months back, and he mentioned that when he's casted for Wizards, they want him to not use slang, mention things that may not be obvious to newer players, ask easy questions to co-casters even if the answer is obvious etc. I'd link it but I'm at work on mobile

I know SCG isnt Wizards but still.

Pedit - yeah I vaguely remember the others, I just prefer slang and Dega didn't have a good one (except Borzhov but ew)


I think this is the opposite of that though. The only people that remember the way it worked before m10 are going to understand anyway, you are functionally just bragging about the fact that you've played for 5 years.


'Life link happens at the same time as damage, so he wont die.' Is different, I think.
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Post Post #4627 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:14 am

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In post 4624, InflatablePie wrote:Chamber - Marshall (LR) was interviewed by the LRR guys a few months back, and he mentioned that when he's casted for Wizards, they want him to not use slang, mention things that may not be obvious to newer players, ask easy questions to co-casters even if the answer is obvious etc. I'd link it but I'm at work on mobile

I know SCG isnt Wizards but still.

Pedit - yeah I vaguely remember the others, I just prefer slang and Dega didn't have a good one (except Borzhov but ew)


I think that Chamber's point is that its been so long since lifelink used the stack as a trigger that most newer players don't even know that it ever didn't work that way.

Its more confusing to mention it then it is to not mention it. If they're going to try to explain what lifelink is, then explain what lifelink is. Don't reference an obscure older rules that only old fucks like me and chamber even remember.

Also, I think SCG specifically tries to cater to a much more competitive kind of viewer than wizards does. Wizards is uber concerned with new players since getting new people playing magic is their business model. SCG's business model is getting those players that have already been playing for a while and making them into tournament players who buy singles and consume content. They aren't as beholden to coddling newer players as much.
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Post Post #4628 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:21 am

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http://imgur.com/lfakARu

the hidden cards are exhume and oona's prowler

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Post Post #4629 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:20 pm

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In post 4616, Klazam wrote:
In post 4615, Thestatusquo wrote:Sure there were. Just no one used them because they were fucking stupid. Just like these ones.

Team America (BGU)


I hope you're joking. I would immediately assume Jeskai colors for "Team America".

I like the new names. RUG/BUG are fine, but the new players I've taught the game just gave RUG and BUG laughs, assuming I was joking about those names. The fact that they now have lore-based names is really helpful.
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Post Post #4630 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:38 pm

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Team America being bug colors is a legacy reference.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Team_America
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Post Post #4631 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:45 pm

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Yep, but almost everybody I've talked to assumes "America" refers to a Red, White, and Blue deck. Legacy BUG seems to have lost its name.
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Post Post #4632 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:25 pm

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In post 4630, Thestatusquo wrote:Team America being bug colors is a legacy reference.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Team_America


Yeah. Still, that's a name that I consider a poor one.
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Post Post #4633 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:28 pm

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The future is here and it does not look pretty.

Still hoping the PT shows some cool stuff.
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Post Post #4634 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:40 pm

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13/16 of the top 8 decks had green and 12/16 ran 4x Caryatid/Courser. I know it's early in the format, but...come on.

My favorite deck is the BW 'Midrange' deck that's honestly just BW Control. I think this might be a good shell to start with. It seems to be one of the few decks poised to run 4x End Hostilities main.
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Post Post #4635 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:41 pm

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In post 4634, Natirasha wrote:13/16 of the top 8 decks had green and 12/16 ran 4x Caryatid/Courser. I know it's early in the format, but...come on.

And literally no one in the entire world was surprised.

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Post Post #4636 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:42 pm

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NAT WHY ARE YOU NO LONGER COMING TO CHICAGO I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAYING MAGIC WITH YOU
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Post Post #4637 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:44 pm

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In post 4636, Thestatusquo wrote:NAT WHY ARE YOU NO LONGER COMING TO CHICAGO I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAYING MAGIC WITH YOU

I WAS TOO BUT THINGS CHANGED LAST MINUTE. Add me on skype if you want(name's hookerpunch) and I'll expand some.
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Post Post #4638 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:50 pm

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That's a classy skype name.
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Post Post #4639 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:04 pm

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Well here is my report from the Waco 5k.

There was a lot of Junk. Like way too much, I played Rabble Red and didn't even lose to Junk except for once and that was against my Teammate.
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Post Post #4640 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:14 pm

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I'm not surprised about that. DFW is so swamped with midrange it's ridiculous.

It's been that way since Birthing Pod, too.
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Post Post #4641 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:15 pm

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I've noticed. But I did see a decent amount of Mardu (RBW) Aggro out there also.
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Post Post #4642 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:24 pm

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Its like this: I need a really compelling reason to not be playing green for courser and caryatid right now. And I'm not really seeing one.

And this makes shea a sad panda.
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Post Post #4643 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:49 pm

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BUG is also an acceptable name.

I play legacy a LOT. Team America was around for a long time there.
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Post Post #4644 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:18 pm

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In post 4642, Thestatusquo wrote:Its like this: I need a really compelling reason to not be playing green for courser and caryatid right now. And I'm not really seeing one.

And this makes shea a sad panda.

I'm the same way with Elspeth right now. I'm quickly thinking Elspeth was a R&D mistake instead of a sweet control win con.
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Post Post #4645 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:35 pm

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Eh. It's a 6 mana walker. Even if its too pushed, it's the first time they made one that cost more than 4 that saw a staple amount of play, hard for me to view it as a mistake.
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Post Post #4646 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:46 pm

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I don't think its a mistake at all. its strong, yes, but nicely designed and at a good niche
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Post Post #4647 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:33 pm

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I do think it's a little over tuned. Its really hard to tell without any competition in the 6 mana walker spot though.
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Post Post #4648 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:40 pm

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Well, you could always start playing Ascendancy Storm. At least that 'only' runs Rattleclaw and Caryatid.
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Post Post #4649 (ISO) » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:45 pm

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That scg open was painful.

I mean that in the sense that every single one of the Abzan midrange decks on camera seemed designed to start the game at 10 life. Worth noting that none of those with the bizarre deadly mana bases made top 8.

Big mess of green midrange everywhere though. Picking out some winners from among the pack...

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdat ... ckID=73333

ascendancy storm did something! I thought I wouldn't see this deck anywhere near top 8, so seeing one in 11th is heartening.

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdat ... ckID=73400

I tested a similar deck to this last season. It couldn't really beat esper back then. The meta may be kinder? Anger of the gods for weenies and chained to the rocks for fatties is a nice removal suite.

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdat ... ckID=73324

I'm not sure how good this deck style is if people stop killing themselves with their manabases, but seems to have been a really good choice for the event. Deflecting Palm is way better than I originally thought - every time I've seen it played it's done work.

And that's literally all the non-green decks in the top 16 of two events. Wonderful.
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