SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[Xombie]

And for those pushing at the Xombie/mastin/ZZZX town debate...
Unless you think we're all scum, in the same neighborhood, buddying each other so hard and giving ourselves away -- just give it some time? We'd rather not have to out what we know/how we know it.
There are

~reasons

and there are good things coming.

[Xombie]

@mod --

Tentative

V/LA for a couple days, Sunday(?)

Vaccine side effects suuuuck.
and so does typing

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: beast

[Heartless]

TWIE, Heartless, skybird, theaceofspades, TD if any of you could do anything that would be swell.

You have to wait a few hours for Anti then because I can't do this right now.

[Heartless]

Yeah, I'm not going to read 20 odd pages of this Bullshit, I roleblocked mastin and there was no nightkill. VOTE: mastin

Not scum, not dumb, mastin is a great player and I have her pegged as scum, why would I let things she says(being a great player) sway me from that?

And the only reason you would not be able to target me with day abilities is if you either don't have any or whatever being covered in brambles has done to me, I have nothing to do with it.

...... I think given how much people trust her and how much she was asking not to be targeted groupscum would find her the perfect choice to send out for a kill. And also, THERE WASN'T A GODDAMNED KILL!

Yeah but see, no one but me would be "dumb" enough to target her.

And running in to watcher is so ridiculously unlikely. You're scum with her aren't you?

Just once I'd like for the thing that is supposed to be true to just be true.

alright... td voters

^^^^^^^^^^^^does that realistically come from scum?

[Heartless]

VOTE: fourtrouble

i'll actually do this

[Heartless]

There wasn't a player in the game who put more effort into sorting players in the beginning of the game, and the effort had the drive and conviction and push towards perfection I would expect from the slot as town. The interaction with us throughout the entire game would take a level of blatant lying that seems pretty difficult to fake, the amount of pushing in general and the depth to which these many pushes have been developed are additionally outside the realm of what a majority of the site (everyone on the site?) is capable of forming and creating as scum. But the reason I say that I need to know the more definitive reasons why you're finding solar wind as scum is because a majority of your case seems more annoyance with the slot than a scum read of it and if I'm wrong in that assumption I need major help in correcting it because going through ISOs on mobile sucks donkey balls.

i'm going to pick up on this

i'm getting the feeling that whatever you're seeing in the neighborhood is influencing this because there's nothing in this thread i'm seeing that's SO FAR beyond the scum repertoire of a decent scumplayer, especially someone like f16.

NACHO, WE CAN'T SEE WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

the problems tth originally had with them is that they're REACTIVE and i kind of see that. hell, look at the way they reacted to tth. she brings up scumreading them and then f16 SUDDENLY he does an iso of me and... /fart... he doesn't like what he sees? something about a revelation...? something about tth and i working together...? it's cobbled together buzzwords. and if you want to say "oh they need the hammer for their ultimate" or whatever, that's fine, but i don't recall a sphincteritis about voting from EITHER ffery or f16 in games i've played w/ them.

are there all these developed reads in the pantheon that i'm just not seeing? i don't even give a shit what they are, do they exist?

and here's what we're talking about...

f16/ffery

what are ya'll doing RIGHT NOW?

there are 3 choices on the table. beast has someone vouching for him. td looks a lot more town than ft.
why is ft so untouchable? if you look at the pv interactions, they actually aren't great, ESPECIALLY AFTER the pv flip.

[mastin2]

Dumb question: why did td get brambles.

It's nothing on my end.

[mastin2]

...... I think given how much people trust her and how much she was asking not to be targeted groupscum would find her the perfect choice to send out for a kill. And also, THERE WASN'T A GODDAMNED KILL!

I'd like your conclusion better if someone else already hadn't claimed to have blocked the kill.

This might point to derp town?

Quite the opposite, that looks like classic scum-scum to me.

[Cephrir]

i don't recall a sphincteritis about voting from EITHER ffery or f16 in games i've played w/ them.

ffery

What games have YOU been playing?

Also, I believe those TD posts could still come from scum, yes. But you will notice that I am voting for beastcharizard! Half the players in this game have someone vouching for them; I don't think this one is anything but a read and I don't especially trust TSO here anyway. Furthermore, Magua is also in that neighborhood (IIRC? Well anyway SOMEONE is) and I haven't seen them expressing similar feelings that I recall.

[mastin2]

Also, their alignment regardless, Imperium's townposting right now.

("Huh. Their alignment regardless?" Yes. As in, it looks town. It's probably town. It has more motivation to be town, especially since the thoughts in it are without a doubt driving for town. But not impossible to come from scum. It makes me feel better about them, but I'm not gonna go flippantly calling them conftown all of a sudden off of it.)

[mastin2]

I feel more comfortable speaking in the neighborhood to discuss than the spam feast which is here.

About roles and related spec, this is fine.
About reads, those should stay in the thread.

100% town doesn't mean 100% "can ignore the accepted rule".

[mastin2]

ankamius, we're never going to get a td lynch. tried and failed.

It only failed because YOU gave up too early.

[Cephrir]

Which incidentally I have never known TSO to do~

[mastin2]

Why Ffery specifically?

Because ffery's more nightkillable.

:/

Well, it's true.

I've seen both of you in like 10-30 games or so. Somewhere in the middle for F-16, somewhere in the high range for ffery.
Only once or twice have I seen F-16 get nightkilled.
Only once or twice have I seen ffery

not

get nightkilled.

[Heartless]

What games have YOU been playing?

serum and steel

[Solar Wind]

f16/ffery

what are ya'll doing RIGHT NOW?

there are 3 choices on the table. beast has someone vouching for him. td looks a lot more town than ft.
why is ft so untouchable? if you look at the pv interactions, they actually aren't great, ESPECIALLY AFTER the pv flip.

I can't believe it but I actually agree with Cephrir. A part of me lost track of who is vouching for who and at this point, I really don't care.

FT if scum could easily bus PV. If he thought that PV was a liability to his team, he'd sooner bus than claim that past experience with PV made him cautious of PV. And I looked through his games: he did in fact play with town and scum PV and PV's play was fairly low-activity in both games as far as I recall. I'm not as sure in my townread of FT though and that's bugging me a little but not enough to vote him today.

There's barely anything Beast has done that made me think he's town. TD has. I agree with the general notion that how he came out with his Mastin read was townish.

So, we're hammering Beast once everyone else has got their stuff together.

I'm worried about you guys because you aren't doing anything or affecting the game in a productive way. Everytime I express concerns with you guys, TTH shows up to lecture me but where's the content? Where are the reads? It feels like pulling teeth and I'm not seeing the pro-activeness in game-solving from you guys at all.

[Solar Wind]

what are ya'll doing RIGHT NOW?

Worrying like hell about your and T S O's alignment and that we may not get a chance to work on that tomorrow.

We've said repeatedly that we want the hammer today and that we'll assume any interference with that is a scum claim.

Mask hasn't acknowledged that. Neither have you.

I'd like to see you do that.

We do not want to see an FT lynch. We have a preference for beast over TD but the more time TD spends being a useless waste of space today the more that preference fades.

Everyone who thinks beast can't fake what he's put into the game so far needs to have a look at the Sabotage large theme game IMO.

[Heartless]

I'm worried about you guys because you aren't doing anything or affecting the game in a productive way. Everytime I express concerns with you guys, TTH shows up to lecture me but where's the content? Where are the reads? It feels like pulling teeth and I'm not seeing the pro-activeness in game-solving from you guys at all.

we posted reads

[Solar Wind]

You posted a list of reads which you haven't explained. What I'm not seeing is pro-activeness in pushing players that you find scummy.

[Heartless]

FT if scum could easily bus PV. If he thought that PV was a liability to his team, he'd sooner bus than claim that past experience with PV made him cautious of PV. And I looked through his games: he did in fact play with town and scum PV and PV's play was fairly low-activity in both games as far as I recall. I'm not as sure in my townread of FT though and that's bugging me a little but not enough to vote him today.

i don't know how you could even begin to think you could predict something like this w/ any kind of accuracy

[Heartless]

You posted a list of reads which you haven't explained. What I'm not seeing is pro-activeness in pushing players that you find scummy.

i'm doing that and you're giving me lip about how they're either not mafia or OMG THEY WEREN'T IN THE GAME AT THE TIME

[Heartless]

You posted a list of reads which you haven't explained.

they're as well explained as your current reads

[Solar Wind]

I played with FT offsite for years so I have feeling for how he treats his partners. I could be wrong but I think he would jump at the chance for towncred. His alternative strategy would be to defend - if he has the time and inclination. The last thing he'd do is sit around, let his buddy get lynched and not cash in on it.

[Heartless]

was it clear at that point pv was getting lynched?