Mini 773- Welcome to Lynchville! Perfection! (Over)

RedCoyote · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 6:57 am

Okay, I've made my decision. I won't be changing my vote.

I think the town has the support to lynch KK if that's their choice, but I don't need to be a part of it if a majority will push the lynch through. If I had a fundamental reason for my sudden defense of KK it would be that fact that he decided to leave today. That would be a serious scum gambit for D1, knowing he would be ruffling a lot of feathers by leaving his vote on a Doctor claim.

If y'all decide to go with cater, great, but if not, then I'll hopefully see y'all in D2.

confirm vote: cateraction

One last point against cater: his unvote without stating who he plans on voting before the deadline, if he plans of voting before the deadline, or revoting anyone whatsoever.

hohum · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 6:59 am

qwints wrote:Which way would KK have to flip to further the notion of me and alex being a scum pair?

If KK flips scum then I'd be less likely to lump YOU into the scum group. In hindsight my bussing notion was probably wrong.

hohum · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:02 am

I doubt he will flip scum though. I'm sure he'll flip PR, then we need to sit down as a town and come up with a BREAKING STRATEGY.

cateraction · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:03 am

How the hell is that a point against me?

I don't want to die, but if I have to vote KK to keep from it, I will. I would still lynch qwintz but no one is going that way, and again...I don't want to die.

hohum · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:03 am

because that would be 2 PR claims, 1 soft claim, and 1 confirmed PR. See the pattern here?

hohum · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:05 am

cateraction wrote:How the hell is that a point against me?

I don't want to die, but if I have to vote KK to keep from it, I will. I would still lynch qwintz but no one is going that way, and again...I don't want to die.

If you were really town, why should it matter to you whether or not you are lynched? Why would a town-aligned player posses an instinct for self-preservation?

cateraction · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:05 am

...or someone's lying.

hohum · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:06 am

cateraction wrote:...or someone's lying.

Please show me a game where everyone claims PR when that is not the case. Claiming a PR when you don't have one is usually a dangerous gambit.

cateraction · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:07 am

Because I like playing this game. Also, I could be wrong about KK. I can't be wrong about me. We've gone over this, preservation is not scummy as long as you're not anti-town in doing it. I'm quite open to discussing my behavior, I just don't want to die on a whim like this. Others have stronger cases built against them.

qwints · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:09 am

cateraction wrote:How the hell is that a point against me?

I don't want to die, but if I have to vote KK to keep from it, I will. I would still lynch qwintz but no one is going that way, and again...I don't want to die.

How did unvoting me help further any of your goals? You could have waited to unvote til you actually voted for KK if that possibility came up. (Incidentally, I don't think there's anything scummy about joining a wagon you're unsure about to avoid being lynched this close to deadline.) By the goals you set out (not wanting a KK lynch and, more importantly, not wanting to be lynched), you should be pushing the case against me. Not sitting back and letting the KK lynch happen. I can only assume you're trying to get on my good side by not attacking me. That's not pro-town behavior.

@hohum, scum fake PR-claims to prevent a lynch aren't exactly rare. Either LK or Archaist could be scum, we just shouldn't lynch them today.

hohum · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:10 am

I'm still in favor of a mass claim. ESPECIALLY if KK flips a PR.

qwints · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:11 am

For the record, a hohum-archaist-LK scum team would be hilarious.

hohum · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:12 am

qwints wrote:@hohum, scum fake PR-claims to prevent a lynch aren't exactly rare. Either LK or Archaist could be scum, we just shouldn't lynch them today.

So your notion is the town was lucky enough to hit on TWO scum, both fake claiming PR to avoid lynch? Do you have any idea what the odds of that are?

I don't buy it. And that's a pretty scummy statement out of you.

qwints · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:12 am

hohum wrote:I'm still in favor of a mass claim. ESPECIALLY if KK flips a PR.

Hohum, do I have this right? You're pressing for a KK lynch BECAUSE he's likely a PR?

cateraction · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:13 am

I'll gladly push my case on you tomorrow and we can have a grand dialogue. However, now is quite the extreme circumstance and we can't let best be the enemy of good, so I gave up my case for today, waiting to see where most people think the best lynch is, and if I must, add my vote to that wagon to save myself.

hohum · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:17 am

qwints wrote:
hohum wrote:I'm still in favor of a mass claim. ESPECIALLY if KK flips a PR.
Hohum, do I have this right? You're pressing for a KK lynch BECAUSE he's likely a PR?

No, stop twisting my words! I'm pushing my KK lynch to confirm my original notion of possible pairings. Since I don't have enough support to lynch either you or alex right now the alternative (at least on my score card) is a random lynch. I'd rather have a PRODUCTIVE lynch than a RANDOM lynch.

I'm saying that KK is likely to flip town because I no longer think it is probable that he is in the scum group with you and alex.

KK's flipping PR would confirm that the setup is horribly broken. Also very likely.

cateraction · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:18 am

Yeah, wtf is with that? Are you that sure that it's a PR game and not just a lying scum? Because really, that's ridiculous.

hohum · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:20 am

cateraction wrote:Yeah, wtf is with that? Are you that sure that it's a PR game and not just a lying scum? Because really, that's ridiculous.

You just don't get it, do you?

The odds are stacked against the notion that 2 scum hit, D1, fake claimed to stay alive, I have a power role, KK will flip PR, and the setup is balanced. That does NOT make a balanced setup.

Use your fucking head for a minute.

LesterGroans · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:21 am

Unvote

[vote: Cateraction[/b]

More to come later, but trying to beat deadline.

hohum · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:22 am

Lester: fix your tags.

LesterGroans · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:23 am

^

Vote: Cateraction

cateraction · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:23 am

What happens in the event of a tie?

cateraction · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:25 am

Vote: KK

To hopefully save my ass.

hohum · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:25 am

cateraction wrote:What happens in the event of a tie?

You know what?

Unvote, Vote cateraction

Go play in some newbie games.

cateraction · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed May 06, 2009 7:28 am

Wait, I'm a power role too. OMG! Really dude? Go play with dolls so you can continue to make shit up.