Ttyll Mafia - Game Over!

[drealmerz7]

(!!!)

And the list was all town

:þ

I almost pooped myself when some good townies PoEd the scumteam - I had an argument to dissolve it, but, still, not where I wanted to go AT ALL

[Ircher]

I also sent one of these pms to dead players:

Alas it seems your time is up. The authorities have caught you, and there is no escape.

But, you do happen to have a secret informant inside the prison who is more than willing to help you see your plan through.

Perhaps you trust the informant and are willing to entrust to him various anonymous messages to spread throughout the night? If so, please pm me this as your choice.

On the other hand, maybe you are just tired of plotting altogether and feel like you need a break? That's fine too.

Whatever you choose, just be sure you will be satisfied with it as there is no turning back. So which is it? Anonymous messages or retiring to the dead thread?

Welcome BTD6_Maker, and it is with great sorrow to inform you that you are now dead.

You are presented with one of two options, and I must receive a response within (expired on 2016-11-24 20:31:18), or else I'll choose for you.

One option is to continue influencing the game. Despite your formal discharge from the Defenders of Ttyll, new evidence was found to prove that you were innocent. While it is impossible for you to return to your old position, you are still allowed to keep private correspondence with the Defenders by writing anonymous messages. More information will be sent if you decide to proceed down this path.

On the other hand, perhaps you are sick of the politics involved with the Defenders of Ttyll. You may instead decide to embark on a quieter life and while you may stay tuned in to the work of the Defenders, you may choose to no longer actively influence their decisions and simply relax. More information will be sent if you progress down this path.

No matter what you choose, realize that it is your choice and that the Defenders could care less about what you choose (in other words, your choice is anonymous to the game thread). Your choice is only binding to yorself.

Nonetheless, I must warn you lest you make a rash decision that you soon regret:

Your choice is FINAL after you make it, with one exception (see the shop).

In other words, you cannot active influence the game on Night 1 and then choose to retire Night 2.

The choice is yours; which will it be?

It is with great sorrow to inform you that you are now dead. (Flavor-wise, you aren't but for posting purposes, you are considered dead)

You are presented with one of two options, and I must receive a response within (expired on 2016-11-27 21:58:44), or else I'll choose for you.

One option is to continue to influence the game. Despite your temporary suspension from the Defenders of Ttyll, you are still allowed to keep private correspondence with the Defenders by writing anonymous messages. More information will be sent if you decide to proceed down this path.

On the other hand, perhaps you are sick of the politics involved with the Defenders of Ttyll. You may instead decide to embark on a quieter life and while you may stay tuned in to the work of the Defenders, you may choose to no longer actively influence their decisions and simply relax. More information will be sent if you progress down this path.

No matter what you choose, realize that it is your choice and that the Defenders could care less about what you choose (in other words, your choice is anonymous to the game thread). Your choice is only binding to yorself.

Nonetheless, I must warn you lest you make a rash decision that you soon regret:

Your choice is FINAL after you make it, with one exception (see the shop).

In other words, you cannot active influence the game on Night 1 and then choose to retire Night 2.

The choice is yours; which will it be?

[BNL]

texcat why didn't you claim?

[Ircher]

And, around 550 pms total for the game. This game was fun to mod, that's for sure!

Hope you all play some future games of mine although I'm not really sure what I am going to mod next.

[texcat]

texcat why didn't you claim?

*shrug* Maybe I should have. I always hate claiming. I didn't realize that we were at LYLO first of all. Second, I didn't think it would do any good to claim. It wasn't like I had any info to share. My claim would only be so that I was NK'd instead of lynched.

[Ircher]

I highly doubt Dreal was gonna nk you. 99% sure Albert was gonna be strongmanned next.

[drealmerz7]

absolutely my strongman on ABR was next NK - it had to be, no question (I even essentially asked Ircher via PM if I was going to kill both MathBlade+ABR or just ABR if using strongman, though I don't think I named names, but that was what I had in mind when I asked the question, because, well...duh...)

PLUS, it was almost going to be the NK the night before if we hadn't learned that MB was going to guard ABR so went for GE (that was my thinking anyway, I thought MB would guard GE because it was the less likely NK target, and therefor would become the most likely especially with how ABR was playing) - thanks MB for sharing that info with eS!

[texcat]

Yep. I didn't know about the strongman. But I think my best play would have been protecting Gamma instead of ABR.

[eagerSnake]

Definitely a good game. Sorry I resorted to some questionable tactics (like coasting and using vc flavor and sht) but I was just.. playing to win.

[Wisdom]

oh look i was right about everything

[drealmerz7]

dude, you had me in your top TRs most of the game and only saw the light BARELY once or twice and then got quickly clouded back over, and then I towncleared WQ with you by pushing her so much, and then you read eS as town after all his lala-shit and subbed out because you couldn't stand his "stupidity" or whatever happened there

really try and be objective with yourself and tell if you think you would have really figured it

what'd you think of my claim?

having said that, regardless of how much improvement I think you could use in your playstyle, you were the best player town had and it was fun battling with you

[Wisdom]

lol
I spent all d1 spamming WQ and eager should get lynched
I spent all d2 trying to get frank lynched
I spent all d3 shouting that eager and you and frank are obvscum

Dont flatter yourselves because you played against a sucky town

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait, we still had one lynch to go!
You endgamed it at the wrong point!

[Gamma Emerald]

lol
I spent all d1 spamming WQ and eager should get lynched
I spent all d2 trying to get frank lynched
I spent all d3 shouting that eager and you and frank are obvscum

Dont flatter yourselves because you played against a sucky town

Here's your issue: you don't allow for other input, you just stick your fingers in your ears and shout LALALA.

[eagerSnake]

You also replaced out and called me town, Wisdom... and stated that it was the reason you were replacing.

I hate to say it but in the end you got played. Even the mod. Seriously underestimated me here as I'm not as stupid as I played out to be. I'd never believe in VC flavor identifying scum nor any of the other stupid shit I was arguing. Honestly, I should have been lynched as soon as I started arguing that nonsense. The point from the start was to get you to believe that I believed what I was arguing, so you'd think I was legitimately trying to form reads and engage them. In the end, my fake bullheaded conspiracy theoristic gullible and arguably dumb attitude looked legitimately to you like a townie trying to solve or who thinks he found scum. Of course it didn't to the mod, but he is spoiled.

Although most of the town pegged scum at one point or another, you all failed to work together or you didn't maintain the read because we deflected elsewhere or you were just simply outplayed as you were manipulated into lynching and killing consecutive loyal Defenders of Ttyll.

My advice would be to have confidence in your reads and follow through when you have a strong suspicion. Do not let yourself be put off track by recognizing when scum is trying let the conversation chsnge. Also, always engage all the lurkers and gut the ones you get scum reads on.

No one here played a perfect game. But the 2 best players I agree with mod here were drealmerz and Wisdom. Neither played a perfect game, obviously, but were among the top influences towards achieving their respective win-cons.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would definitely enjoy playing with you more if you weren't so off in your own world, Wisdom. As it is, you're kind of a jerk.

[Gamma Emerald]

btw unless the mod has damn good reasoning for cutting the game early this doesn't go on my wiki.

[drealmerz7]

btw unless the mod has damn good reasoning for cutting the game early this doesn't go on my wiki.

read the things, it's not really early, though as a mod I probably would have let it go to the next Day and watched it play out for a final finalizing

hell, just for the contingent of all 3 scum fall asleep at the wheel and don't submit a NK

[eagerSnake]

Also Gamma man you should've known I was pulling you down the wrong paths! I felt really bad about it, tbh. However I think I had obvious scum motives when engaging you and I'll explain why.

From the very start, I intentionally said what I said to you about "playing carefully" to fish you out as a PR. I subtly hinted at having a suspicion of you not being town!meta to have an excuse for the question and to plant seeds of distrust between you and the other townies. You even picked up and pointed out this suspicion and classified it as "trying to sort you." In reality, it was me having an excuse to fish and cast shade without having to personally call you scummy or scum, thus trying to avoid getting into conflict. Also scummy fact, I never really did anything with your answer to my question. Never followed up or anything, just claimed to track you the next day and never continued from there in thread. Even with my negative track result on you, I still believed you were some kind of PR (I was thinking either a mason or some other strong pr that doesn't have a traceable NA).

[MathBlade]

lol
I spent all d1 spamming WQ and eager should get lynched
I spent all d2 trying to get frank lynched
I spent all d3 shouting that eager and you and frank are obvscum

Dont flatter yourselves because you played against a sucky town

Here's your issue: you don't allow for other input, you just stick your fingers in your ears and shout LALALA.

I am worse. I blame myself for not reading Wisdom well either he is better than me as Town.

[Gamma Emerald]

This game does not count IMO.
1) the LP had to be triggered: a QL on Eager could have happened.
2) Town had the EBG, as you noted.

[Gamma Emerald]

So the game was concluded prematurely.

[BNL]

[quote="In post 4434, Wisdom"][/quote]
Yeah WQ and ES were obvscum even in D2

And PVv even confirmed that the WQvES D3 had to be SvS

Though the early LyLo was questionable, the only thing I didn't like, it felt like I was cheated

[McMenno]

you don't see a large theme this short this often, or maybe you do

but did someone JESTER SPEC,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you can catch scum that way or so I heard

[Mirhawk]

Oh noooo.

Good game everyone, especially scum.

I feel a bit like a broken record but I kinda feel like I should have pushed harder for a lynch on WQ, or at least jumped harder on why Tex was a inferior lynch. Although seeing as how the plan in my head was to lynch Queens then Peregrine followed by Eager, I don't think that would have changed the end result.

I remember telling Vax on day one that I thought writing Drealmer off as a newbie was a mistake seeing as how he was actually egging Wisdom on. Kudos to him and Eager on being underestimated then.

I don't think that Gales kills were terribly bad, but not terribly good either. I mean I definitely wouldn't have killed Vax, as I had a fairly solid reason to think he was town. But Diamond was fine.