Shell Game (Night 3)

[Firebringer]

found it but its def not the same as ur here.
viewtopic.php?t=90137&user_select%5B%5D=29653

ur too mech/action focused than talking about ur reads indepdently i guess.

For some reason I thought u also scumread me for interactions with wagon in this game. But ur reasons for scumreading me in that game were basically because i jailkept u and no kills so u had to go with route i was framing you. Not comparable at all to here unforunate.

[morph the cat]

I kept it to myself reading through that exchange, but I feel like your reaction was over the top, especially given Luke said he was v/la. It left a bad taste in my mouth that I'm still working to get over and look at you more objectively.

I’m having a few niggles that I think is just paranoia. I feel like the last few games wolf and I have played together we butted heads and I would really rather not do that unless I’m fairly certain.

Btw, do you think that unclaimed fruit vend to Luke is from scum? It would kinda go against my scum thievery theory.

What would be the scum-motivation in giving it to Luke?

[morph the cat]

It does kinda make sense from a symmetry pov, maybe for there to be a scum with a fruit-vending ability.

[Shello and Goodbye]

Sure, what about it

Pedit i need more than that ...

i wanted you to explain in more depth so i can understand it.
So far i have im scum for defending brian. Then you also said my interactions with end of day wagons was sus but i think thats related to defending brian. That can't be it.

- you defended brian; i don't think all of the scum bussed him and/or just let him get wagoned without trying to do anything abt it
- also defended cakez (i think yesterday was svs, yes this is a preflip)
- i feel like you're trying to just kind of like ~vibe, you're kind of around and saying things but you're kind of lacking some level of conviction and oomph that makes me feel like you're trying to solve or like you have scumreads that you want to see die
E.g. you scumread bingle, offered to scumcase bingle, and then just didn't despite people asking
- you're doing things that feel like busywork, like asking people to state their reads so that you can collate them and find nullreads that way eod yesterday. Thatnever went anywhere, and you never made any conclusions from it, and it isn't even a good way to form reads imo

Our last game was probably kemusan (both town)

[Shello and Goodbye]

found it but its def not the same as ur here.
viewtopic.php?t=90137&user_select%5B%5D=29653

ur too mech/action focused than talking about ur reads indepdently i guess.

For some reason I thought u also scumread me for interactions with wagon in this game. But ur reasons for scumreading me in that game were basically because i jailkept u and no kills so u had to go with route i was framing you. Not comparable at all to here unforunate.

I don't remember the reasons i scumread you there exactly, i think i had to make up something mech based b/c the mech poe was like impossible at some point

[marcistar]

For the people saying scums in the utr slots where that analysis at LOL

No serious attempt to save brian -> makes me think scum didn't have the influence to

Rlly? I thought your slot and luke made a pretty serious attempt

What do you think of luke?

I know i'm town, i think luke is probably town, not sure how much he resisted it, but will have to reread

~ skitter

i'm not 100% on this but im pretty sure he was trying to get momentum on cakez. i think he pinged you guys specifically and asked for your help reviving the cakez wagon, and then there was a 3rd person in on it too.
i think luke is more sus today than he was yesterday because of this. imo it looks like he was trying to save brian.

4220 from dunnstral seems like a townie post imo, i don't think scum would let alarm bells ring so quickly to someone "knowing information they shouldnt".

4222 wolfbae keeps saying things like this and its starting to annoy me like bffr just hella push dun if you believe hes scum why back down if the feelings so strong? i dont think acting like this is a protown thing.

4254 is not the vibes, but it sort of aligns heavily with sunflower in the hood! annoyed with the game

I still sort of think my gal gypyx is giving us nothing at all!!

unsure of who the scum is in my hood, but i live laugh love the experience wagon idk might vote there later

i could also see myself maybe voting for luke maybe someone else if im feeling esp like a sheep. dont see myself voting firebringer tho (still dont see whats so wrong with them)

[wolfbae]

Sure, what about it

Pedit i need more than that ...

Sorry lol I don't feel like explaining, I just have the ~vibes~.

Also it's funnier to me when I call someone town and they remain unable to read me, it's like I'm winning my own little game

[marcistar]

tbh i might just be getting annoyed with everyone in the hood :/ but it really is making me think things

[Shello and Goodbye]

So i guess the other thing for me is that i think cakez is scum so i'm not really having a problem with someone trying to divert from brian *to cakez*

Pedit @marci r.e. luke

[marcistar]

originally i had the thought that it was highly unlikely it was svs wagons (i had this thought overnight)

but i no longer really think that (wolfbae pointed out i was just in a game that had svs d1 wagons)

but i dont overly have a read on cakez, but hes a hella easy push forever.

so is cakez a super powerful role in your opinion then?
what makes him so obvscum instead of just the "other wagon"?

we discussed this point a tiny bit in the hood, but ngl i was so confused about it and i still am seeing as wolfbaes read has since changed..? i think ? i dont remember what ive read anymore tbh

[wolfbae]

4222 wolfbae keeps saying things like this and its starting to annoy me like bffr just hella push dun if you believe hes scum why back down if the feelings so strong? i dont think acting like this is a protown thing.

To address this specifically: I don't really have a slam-dunk case, just a hearty gut feeling that's mostly been reinforced by how he's posting. (I think it's distinctly wolfy that he's mostly trying to poke holes in my wording). There is significant resistance in the thread to this idea and I don't really expect to have a high degree of influence as someone who just replaced in. I mostly don't have the patience to beat myself blue in the face over this. Scum was flipped Day 1 and overall I think the game is in a decent spot so I'm not going to be trying to force my reads upon the game, which would be pretty likely to have the opposite effect and make people want to tune me out. I can just state what I believe to be the truth, and if I'm right I think people will get there eventually.

[Spiffeh]

^ Town

[marcistar]

yawn

[Hermit Crab]

I kept it to myself reading through that exchange, but I feel like your reaction was over the top, especially given Luke said he was v/la. It left a bad taste in my mouth that I'm still working to get over and look at you more objectively.

I’m having a few niggles that I think is just paranoia. I feel like the last few games wolf and I have played together we butted heads and I would really rather not do that unless I’m fairly certain.

Btw, do you think that unclaimed fruit vend to Luke is from scum? It would kinda go against my scum thievery theory.

What would be the scum-motivation in giving it to Luke?

I know, that’s what’s bothering me.

[Firebringer]

i believe in skitter town now.

Okay, i have no issues with wagon on me.
I am done trying to scum hunt.

[Firebringer]

We could just elim Experience i guess. I think im voting there

[SirCakez]

I think cakez saw something scummy he thought he could score points on

i feel like all of cakez posts are this

This is a ridiculous take from both of you
This is literally scumhunting 101, ask questions about scummy posts. Wtf...

[Dannflor]

Wtf...

[SirCakez]

(Klick was bleeding town btw, serious skill issue to anyone unable to recognize that. like c'mon the guy's not that hard to read.)

Why go into defending Klick?

I always find defending a player previously in a slot to be a little suspicious, I think scum are more likely to be worried about the overall thread perception of their slot and prior players in it like this

scum post

Sell me, Dann?

oh man this game is tripping me out hard lol

[SirCakez]

it's low-key hilarious to me that 24 hours ago notsci was raging for my death by any means necessary and calling all of my posts scummy and now Dann calls one of my posts scummy and notsci is asking why. Like what a 180.

This isn't a comment on alignment at all I just think it's funny

[Lukewarm]

@marci

Did the idea that I was trying to save Brian originate from wolfbae, or someone else in the hood?

[SirCakez]

I'm also down to yeet experience, I said overnight that I wanted to give them time to do something but literally nothing has happened soooo

[SirCakez]

sometimes i use my brain okay ;_;
sometimes..

I just reread my message and it probably came off harsher than I intended, sorry. I meant to be gently chastising you, not calling you a big dum-dum.

oh dw, I didn't take it seriously I was just being self deprecating

[Lukewarm]

So, I have a guess on who wolfbae is, but I also have no idea what personal experience they could be referring to that would make sense to color our interactions the way they are claiming.

This is not an alignment statement, so much as just confusing from that post

[SirCakez]

boop