Catch up from page 12
Since I've seen the flip I can work backwards and analyze Pep's wagon
I'll be posting my thoughts and not concrete reads. After full catch up is done then I will give my reads. I'll also do some ISOs after that.
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304 – disagree. Good town post from drealmerz but he's not a dummy, it's entirely possible for it to be manipulative play as well
drealmerz is.. currently being drealmerz
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381 is a good post from conmanmick, but I agree with how dreal read his previous one to a degree
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The new Transcend is really fucking my head up. Since he became nobility he done switched up on all of us
Note in 408 Pep is on the far end of his scum spectrum. Viewing his 3 reasons for voting pep, they actually seem very weak but you can't expect too much early game.
Now I may be biasing myself, but in his subsequent interaction with Pep it looks like he's goading him as in purposefully talking to him in such a manner to elicit a scum reaction.
~ I think Ramcius is trying to find things out. It doesn't hurt that he seems to be on the same page with me wrt transcend.
445 from manuel seems to be a miscommunication? I don't know if he's interpreting Pep's post how it was actually intended, but either way it's a bad reason to hop on that imo.
Transcend has fake vig'd too many times for me to consider it being real until I see a flip.
um. gerry didnt react that bad to it, but most of what I've seen from him is NAI.
479 – actually shitpost is how a lot of people town tbh
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CMM 501– Lol I played with gerry once and he seems like the type of guy that would do that stuff in an argument if he's against you. It sorta pisses me off but only a little. That is to say that I don't think that it's an accurate scum case for a player who posts like that
505 from conmanmick is a ping actually LMFAO ew
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Jaack 531 – What is this? I just want to know what it is.
I think Alisae's being Alisae I guess.
Hmm 533 I've never seen someone take that stance before. I disagree though. To say that no posts are NAI is to effectively say you can declare someone town or scum from their one RVS post, or an ISO of like 7 posts where they haven't said shit. You're operating off of information that you think you have when you don't, which is an issue.
Actually 548 from Alisae seems like he's pandering. If you put it with the rest of his posts it seems like he wants to safely engage with everyone and appear innocent, to be honest
~ I'm interested in how Lemon Tree comes to its reads
649 – Why in the hell do I feel like most of these pep votes are low effort? Like you pick these things that can be interpreted as scummy, sure, but you throw a little bit of ugdfhjkhfxhn in there and boom, we're done. I don't like. I don't like, yoshi city.
651 – bud, if you read that post then you must have read the two above it. How then did you still not know what he was talking about? Reeks of being deliberately obtuse.
681 – uh oh, look at that vote hop. Interestingly enough, this can be read as either town reading posts wrong or ew scum.
699 nai but he talks to pep like him and the player pep is referring to are both town.
In case you haven't noticed by now, I've developed a scumread on Yoshi and a slight one on Alisae.
Havent noticed a whole lot of ironstove or kuror0
~ gerryoat not addressing the fact that iron will be vla and made a good point about him being VLA in 798 is a little disconcerting, though I have no way of knowing if it's a post that was unseen or deliberately not responded to
808 – Don't have a whole lot of info on Jaack as a player, so can't make an accurate determination about reads list
hunh. So why did you switch your vote to ram 7 posts later if you felt there was more traction on manuel? Spur of the moment huh?
Speaking of Ramcius, I'll have to devote time to reading him as I play with him(this is being written at night) to get a better read there. He's given me some good vibes, though.
Ew, Manuel's opinion of gerryoat is ew. Lol 930 and 935 really?
Reading Ramcius' wall in 946, it's clear to me that he's taking a towny approach here. What's also clear is that Pepchoninga, did in fact do contradictory things at some points. I think Ramcius genuinely believed Pep was scum here, which is more than I can say about most of the votes on him.
Gerrys 956 case on Ironstove is sort of decent. I can't make a concrete judgement on it because it's like, the first i've seen of iron that I paid attention to. I think what he said about the vig shot rxn makes sense
Pines here but I don't have a lot from him
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All Manuel's 1005 tells me, tbh, is that he can make surface level reads. And having surface level reasons isn't really good when you're scum casing someone. The take away from this is that Pep has done some weird things, but at this point in the game even w/o the flip you can see his towniness throughout the fact that his actions don't seem manufactured from a scum POV. It boggles me why people didn't and there's only two answers to that.
kuror0's 1024 seems genuine in intention. I have another game with him I believe, I'll have to check that one cause I never really had a feel for him.
Manuel 1026 – Well, it was better than the last two posts in that chain of argument. Not saying much
I believe page 42 is about the second time I've taken notice of Elena Fisher, she's been keeping a low profile
Pine 1047 is not infallible.
Um, Yoshi's 1053 sounds like the type of thing that you do to fuck around, but he did it in a really awkward way.
1062 – how do you say Elena's appeasing and then call her town in practically the same breath?
Yoshi 1082 lol
Going to analyze Pere's read of Manuel in 1078 and see his perspective on it. Also will look at the game I have with Manuel in it
Peregrine isn't giving me too much to indicate one way or another, I have a completed town game with him and his activity level was similar
1103 – From what I've gathered I think this is one of his problems LOL
1147 – Jaack sort of slipped off my radar.
1153 – so transcends on point currently tho, reading pep town. I will have to see if he has progression on this in the ISO
Okay, fuck. 1171 from Clumsy is a bad post. But that's Ramcius slot.. hmm..
Jaack's 1189 is a solid post
1208 – I'd really like to hear about Pine's experience with scum drealmerz.
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Black Lagoon is ALSO my favorite anime. Then Ghost in Shell SAC, then Gosick or DANGANRONPA
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Elena scum reads pep? Yea thats sus
Her confidence in the fact that he “scumtold” is sort of telling upon knowing the flip? I guess I'll find out tho
1344 LMFAO “ I DONT WANT TO PRESENT A CASE IM NOT A CASE PERSON”
HAHAHAHAHA HAHA THATS NOT GOOD HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
I like how Pine calls pep mega ultra kill scum and transcend says pep is town 3 posts later
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1339 (Pine)“Your reads are all made up, and you're making all kinds of newbiescum tells”
This one is sort of pinging me, I'm used to scum Pine being manipulative and taking x and stretching it to be x, y fucking z and q. But because it's Pine the town doesn't question him. He's said very concrete things and I don't believe he could reasonably provide damning proof for what he said. I feel comfortable scumreading Pine for now
Reading 1357 from Pep where he exchanges with Elena gives me an insight into her thought process, which admittedly isn't too strong but I can see that sort of conclusion being made.
1362 (Manuel) “If he doesnt care about it, why is he scumreading everyone that mentions a scumread on him?”
I notice a lot of people do this
“Instead of giving a read on pep he calls him lynchbait. What does that mean? This looks like he is giving an answer when he is actually not.”
That IS A READ YA FUCK
1370 (Clumsy) – “Jesus my predecessor is a scum-fuck. >_< ”
Where did I hear the scumtell that calling your predecessor scummy makes you scum?
I believe it.
1371 – gerry oats read list : Um I'm mixed on these. I think I agree with some of them but others not, like Pine and Transcendentalist and Elena Fisher.
1377 – ehh it's easy to say things like that I guess, but Alisae may just be being Alisae. I don't have a concrete thing yet.
1405 - “Pine, how much can I trust you?” yea id trust a dayvig on this motherfucker right about now
1408 – Nothing to say besides I enjoy drealmerz' ocean analogy
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Alisae posts a nice lullaby
1479 – consistent pattern is that scumpine tends to take every opportunity discredit every one that goes against him. However not using this as a tell considering I can bias myself
im lyin of course Im going to use this as a fucking tell
61 HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I see a lot of iron traction I wonder why it stopped
I like Iron's response to his wagon btw. Maybe thats why he left.
Actually thinking about
Yeah holy shit if I was here I woulda pushed a Pine lynch
1563 LMFAO HE SAYS FINE THEN MAKES A CASE W 3 POSTS
64 a wild yoshi appears, and eh
1619 don't know how to feel about fro90 agreeing with Alisae's surface level response to a surface level accusation on him
Well at least we sort of agree at this point that Clumsy is scum
1694 Yeah son I feel like you should at least understand why you're scummy for sring your predecessor BUT he explains his read progression on Transcizzle well
1703 ima flip a coin to decide how I read drealmerz this game
1777 YES. CALL PINE OUT ON HIS BULLSHIT
Ok im glad the wagon is switching now
Not sure how to feel about Irons vote on Alisae p. 77
1971 – Alisae says he wants to rope Clumsy yet would rather “ pressure “ Jaack... and this is okay?
I'd agree with Fro99er's synopsis of that movement in 2004 though, he was posturing tbh
2048 – Transcend, come on son. That was basic
yes 2050
2111 – ew, a Pine townread. Transcend is sort of low for me this game any way???????? I dunno.
2114 Iron stop reaching
I can't draw much from Manuel's reads in 2156, but I'm not sure why gerryoat is scum and I definitely didn't think Pep was scum upon witnessing this entire wagon take place. Also why is Yoshi read based on whether or not you think his reads are good?
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Hmm not sure about Iron's reaction to gerryoat's sr on him. All things considered, I'm not thinking he's scum for it.
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Clumsy wagon gaining traction but I already support it so WHAT HAPPENED
and of course fucking drealmerz townreads clumsy
...and Transcend votes jaack
…....................CLUMSY CLAIMED MASON W NO PARTNER.
LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS OH LET ME GUESS YALL LET IT OFF.
2322(Transcend) Now regardless what I feel about Clumsy it's scummy as fuck to hunt for partners for potential mason. It's scummy because I'm assuming Transcend believes the claim.
Damn I thought Iron was going to be a savage like I would have until I saw the unvote
2344(gerryoat) so.. are you picking your lynches based on who townreads them or not? Cause that came off bad.
2353 (Manuel) – Am I missing something? You're treating him as conf town when he's nowhere close to conf
Like, I don't see clear cut scum motivation to claim mason but clumsy was really scummy.
2379 (kuror0) found it interesting that he votes Alisae out of his scumreads, who mostly posts noise.
I see why Pep probably got lynched, cause he was insistent on remaining on the mason claim. Smh
Smh at you not him
Want to point out that I have no clue how to read yoshi. I can see his actions coming from either alignment because they're sort of ambiguous
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