Micro 815: Greatest Idea - Game Over

Micc · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Votecount 3.02

Not Voting (4) -

guacamole, brassherald, Ircher, GeminiTwin12

With 4 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2018-08-10 21:04:28).

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Guac was the one to question the matter of the docs questioning each other, not me.

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:33 pm

Sorry, you said suspecting but still.

I read through their ISO. So I'm going to bring up a question again for you Brass. Why would Guac leave crumbs for them to be doctor when the chance existed that they could have died or have been lynched and we would have found out that it was the truth? Was it for town points?

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:36 pm

They brought up the process of mass claiming only for me to be alive still and (yourself, for your own personal viewpoint since this is hypothetical) RC gets killed instead. What's your theory here? POV's are greatly appreciated here.

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:37 pm

Post #427 EDIT: Last line should say "

was no

t the truth?

ISO · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:21 pm

In post 427, GeminiTwin12 wrote:Sorry, you said suspecting but still.

I read through their ISO. So I'm going to bring up a question again for you Brass. Why would Guac leave crumbs for them to be doctor when the chance existed that they could have died or have been lynched and we would have found out that it was the truth? Was it for town points?

They left them day 2. We were already massclaiming by that point or something, so........

ISO · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:23 pm

In post 197, guacamole wrote:No answer on the massclaim question?

Do you think it will help?
Of course it would give scum a chance to claim something too.
Can I get an answer on this?

There can be as few as 1 antitown role left, if it's an alien.
Or there would need to be 2 mafia.
The most there can be is 2. 2 mafia, 1 alien 1 mafia, 1 alien 1 3p.
Doubtful there is both an alien and mafia with one flip claimed already -- if there is then Hiraki is one of them.

Yep, definitely done with knowledge of possible massclaim.

guacamole · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:50 pm

In post 421, guacamole wrote:Busy weekend.
Busy work day
. And interesting series of votes.
Hold up y'all.

I have my priorities straight. I'll do stuff when I'm not working.

guacamole · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:02 pm

In post 426, GeminiTwin12 wrote:Guac was the one to question the matter of the docs questioning each other, not me.

What I questioned was why we should

case

each other.

Assuming

one of us must be scum, and

trying to force

us to case each other is a scum move. If it came from anyone less towny by behavior I'd yolo vote there in a heartbeat.

Yesterday I thought it was questionable to assume that we should automatically suspect each other. Doctor appears 5 times in the deck in a useful state (reflexive doctor isn't useful IMO). It's a role that many people would choose given the chance. This is not a normal where a CC is an automatic 1v1.

All 3 of you are getting the full treatment -- a town case, mafia case, and alien case. By full treatment I mean if you were this alignment which moves / posts / votes would make sense and which wouldn't. I haven't made up my mind yet. It's going to be a fairly significant investment. We have 10 days and I intend to use them if necessary.

I will be on the road close to 8 hours tomorrow afternoon/evening, taking my son to a live show in another city. That's after working all day. I'm sure as hell not going to try to play mafia in the mcdonalds drivethrough on the way. And when we get home I'll probably hit the sack without delay. No complaints about the time gaps please.

guacamole · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:04 pm

EBWOP -

"only"

case each other. Like the person who suggested that assumed that there was no need to case the other two elephants in the room.

ISO · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:20 pm

I’m the one who said that, and yes, tjere’s no need.

guacamole · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:23 pm

This is largely a note to myself to organize my thoughts. If I'm wrong about something I welcome corrections. You are

not

welcome to cast shade about it being an IIOA post.

Possible setups:
2 town, 2 mafia (we must presume that the mod would not end a game on 2v2 when there are possible roles to interfere with night kills) <yes I too made the wrong assumption this wasn't possible, but then re-thought the "nothing can prevent" language>
2 town, 1 mafia, 1 alien
2 town, 1 3p, 1 alien
3 town, 1 alien

I think the 3p angle is extremely unlikely. Survivor type 3p in a mylo4 can announce and kingmake. That hasn't happened, therefore not a survivor.

guacamole · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:24 pm

Keep it up and I'll be forced to vote you.
You are still on the table, and I fully intend to case all 3 of you.

ISO · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:41 pm

*sigh* it’s gonna be one of those long, unnecessarily drawn out games.......

ISO · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:42 pm

VOTE: Gemini
Final choice; either this or no lynch.

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:10 pm

*stares into camera like we're on the office*

What's the point in no lynching? we're going to be right back here with it. Also, you shouldn't ask us to case then just force a vote session because things are going slow.

brassherald · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:38 pm

I mean, no lynch I would be Roleblocked to confirm but I'm pretty sure I've been barking up the wrong tree the whole game. If you're ready, Ircher, I am too

ISO · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:30 am

Do you think there are two scum left?

If they are both mafia, the day phase would’ve been skipped, yes?

Brass blocks someone. Docs protect me or the other doc (flip a coin pls).

ISO · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:32 am

In post 440, GeminiTwin12 wrote:*stares into camera like we're on the office*

What's the point in no lynching? we're going to be right back here with it. Also, you shouldn't ask us to case then just force a vote session because things are going slow.

I gave 72h. That’s honestly plenty of time, even if you are busy on the weekend.

If there’s 1 scum left, I want to no lynch for Happily Ever After. Otherwise, I think Gemini is scum and should be lynched.

If brass is the sole scum Alien, he should just go for Happily ever after because the only thing happening in 3-way is a no lynch.

ISO · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:33 am

VOTE: No lynch

brassherald · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:22 am

I think there is just one scum left, the chance of two factions attacking the and person two nights in a row are slim to none. I'll no lynch and block Gemini if that's what guac wants at this point

guacamole · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:31 am

I think I'd rather try to win. If it's wrong it's wrong but that's better than not trying at all.

ISO · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:16 am

Happily Ever After is a win.
Mafia win if they exist and we no lynch, so......

If you are Alien, it is in your advantage to claim such.

There can’t be two Aliens—then this would be a draw.

GeminiTwin12 · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 pm

Just going to VOTE: No Lynch in case I'm V/LA for a day or two.

brassherald · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:43 pm

Well, if I die tonight, Gemini is innocent. I think we're on twilight now