Enigma Mi Game Thread : Game Over

scotmany12 · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:46 pm

Greasy Spot wrote:
Beep! Beep! wrote:
Greasy Spot wrote:I didn't believe Yos2 claim in the beginning because it looked like he was lying.
Can you think of ANY reason why a scum would start drawing attention onto himself like Yosarian2 did, right out of the gate on Day 1? Making claims that the rest of the players have ample time to verify? Claims that would at best get rid of a single townie, at the cost of his own life (if Yos were scum)?
Yos didn't draw attention to himself, he drew it to Scot and Scot threw it back in his lap and made Yos look just as guilty as Scot.

Huh, how did I make yos look guilty? Find one place where I attacked Yos. I'm pretty sure throughout this whole thing I have said that Yos was almost certainly town, with the possibility of their being a lyncher. And Yos did draw attention to myself. He basically claimed under absolutely no pressure because he thought he caught scum.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:13 pm

Because with denying what Yos said, he had to claim and the way he did it maid him look like he was lying to start with.

scotmany12 · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:20 pm

Um, I denied what he said after he claimed...

scotmany12 · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:21 pm

Also, who thought Yos was lying? Anyone?

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:46 am

I'd like sollicit players opinion of the case I made in this post:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 504#996504

Many thanks.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:23 am

I don't see how you can prove an alt unless that person tells you or mith tells you.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:59 am

Greasy Spot wrote:I don't see how you can prove an alt unless that person tells you or mith tells you.

The mods can see IPs. Ask The Jester how he knows that Flameaxe-MikeO are the same.

Let's suppose that you believe that Flameaxe and MikeO are indeed the same. What do you think of the case that I made?

scotmany12 · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:01 am

Eh, Mike is an alt of Flame, but he was on vacation during the time that he did not post. I am in two games with flameaxe so I can vouch for that. As for why he posted in this game later than the others, I don't really have an answer to that. Priority maybe? Honestly, I don't believe you can accuse him of lurking just by looking at his posts from one day.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:14 am

scotmany12 wrote:Eh, Mike is an alt of Flame, but he was on vacation during the time that he did not post. I am in two games with flameaxe so I can vouch for that. As for why he posted in this game later than the others, I don't really have an answer to that. Priority maybe? Honestly, I don't believe you can accuse him of lurking just by looking at his posts from one day.

Are you referring to the period of Mar 14-24, when MikeO didn't post? Because during that period, Flameaxe posted at least once on the following days:

March 15
March 16
March 17
March 18
March 19
march 22
March 23

The only day he didn't post were March 20 and 21.

scotmany12 · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:20 am

Eh, can you find out where those posts were? They might have just been in his game that he is modding. During that period flame didn't post in the two games I am in with him.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:21 am

If you mean the period preceding the long, 19 day lapse in MikeO posting, I just checked that Flameaxe was very active on the following dates:

March 3
March 4
March 5
Machh 6
March 7
March 8
March 9
March 10
March 11
March 12
March 13

So it's clear that the "MikeO" alt is a fake lurker.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:22 am

scotmany12 wrote:Eh, can you find out where those posts were? They might have just been in his game that he is modding. During that period flame didn't post in the two games I am in with him.

The posts are all over the site, games, GD, you name it. He was VERY active across the site. Between 5-20 posts per day, so that's not just modding. Just check his profile, and click on "find all posts by..."

The Jester · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:11 am

Well I told you he was the alt, so I'm agreeing with the case.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:27 am

You are already voting for him, good going.

The Jester · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:32 am

Ah, forgot to unvote.

Unvote: Vote: Mike

Skruffs · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:33 pm

Moved this weekend, will do prods and such tomorrow!

Greasy Spot · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:28 am

Beep! Beep! wrote:
Greasy Spot wrote:I don't see how you can prove an alt unless that person tells you or mith tells you.
The mods can see IPs. Ask The Jester how he knows that Flameaxe-MikeO are the same.

Ok, The Jester, how do you know Flamaxe and Mike O are the same?

Beep! Beep! wrote:Let's suppose that you believe that Flameaxe and MikeO are indeed the same. What do you think of the case that I made?

It looks very incriminating towards him being a lurker with no intentions of actually playing this game.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:34 am

Well I guess if we believe what he says then it's true. Start at the Mike O post and continue to read the following posts.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 450#985450

Greasy Spot · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:35 am

vote: Mike O

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:57 am

well, I was getting ready to unvote Greasy and vote Mike until I Greasy did...no, I think that we have scum in greasy...have no opinion of the Yos/Scot thing, might be worth it to revisit it later in the game..but now, I dont think it adds up to much.

Greasy Spot · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:04 am

You guys are so ass backwards around here. You make a point to get people to vote, then when they vote you vote them for changing their vote. Well fuck it I'm changing my vote too.

unvote vote: curiouskarmadog

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:16 am

Greasy Spot wrote:You guys are so ass backwards around here. You make a point to get people to vote, then when they vote you vote them for changing their vote. Well fuck it I'm changing my vote too.
unvote vote: curiouskarmadog

verge of flaking?

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:43 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:well, I was getting ready to unvote Greasy and vote Mike until I Greasy did...no, I think that we have scum in greasy.

Greasy has a point. That's a really weird thing to say CKD. A very weird move.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:48 am

it was the way he did it Beep..

first he is pushing one way...

then as a BW develops on Mike(flame?)..he jumps on that wagon, what happened to the yos/scot thing he was so passionate about?

and now, he is voting me...does this pattern of voting look protown to you Beep?

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:28 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:it was the way he did it Beep..

first he is pushing one way...

then as a BW develops on Mike(flame?)..he jumps on that wagon, what happened to the yos/scot thing he was so passionate about?

and now, he is voting me...does this pattern of voting look protown to you Beep?

Let me put it this way. GS is still more pro-town than MikeO, a lurker by design and deceit, and not a useful one at that, the few times he showed up.

GS can answer himself. But clearly the Yos vs. scot is going nowhere, and it should get nowhere, because it's too early to have a firm grip on the reliability of the information they have provided.

And I did make a case for voting MikeO, didn't I? Is any player moving away from Yos vs. Scot onto MikeO opportunistic, because I made a case that is sufficiently convincing, backed with supporting evidence?

I find it more strange that you'd declare GS scum over this, and make a decision not to vote MikeO.