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OhGodMyLife · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:14 am

Hey guys. I'll be caught up with this thread by tomorrow.

scotmany12 · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:16 am

SensFan wrote:ckd, I've answered those questions.

No you didn't. You especially haven't explained why you believe me to be scum.

Korts · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:23 am

(4) Ren Hoek- Budja, Yosarian2, vollkan, SensFan

(3) crywolf- TDC, Adel, Ren Hoek
(2) SensFan- scotmany12, curiouskarmadog
(1) FaerieLord- Goatrevolt

not voting:

OhGodMyLife, FaerieLord, crywolf

7 to lynch

Deadline for Day 1 is 6PM EST August 4.

No-one has been prodded.

FaerieLord · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:19 am

Edit the Nuwen with the OhGodMyLife in the votecount korts.

Done, thanks.

SensFan · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:09 pm

Budja wrote:Sens, it should be very clear to you where you are been accused of misrepping FL.
Look at Yosarian's post 355. You have clearly taken FL out of context, will you accept this and does it affect your opinion of FL?

No, I don't accept its a misrep, since I still don't believe I misreped anything.

There is literally no pro-Town reason anyone would wish there was a RVS, given the situation.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:12 pm

SensFan wrote:
Budja wrote:Sens, it should be very clear to you where you are been accused of misrepping FL.
Look at Yosarian's post 355. You have clearly taken FL out of context, will you accept this and does it affect your opinion of FL?
No, I don't accept its a misrep, since I still don't believe I misreped anything.

There is literally no pro-Town reason anyone would wish there was a RVS, given the situation.

The reason he gave, which was roughly "if there had been a rvs we probably wouldn't be stalled right now", is actually a pretty good pro-town reason, isn't it?

scotmany12 · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:22 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Budja wrote:Sens, it should be very clear to you where you are been accused of misrepping FL.
Look at Yosarian's post 355. You have clearly taken FL out of context, will you accept this and does it affect your opinion of FL?
No, I don't accept its a misrep, since I still don't believe I misreped anything.

There is literally no pro-Town reason anyone would wish there was a RVS, given the situation.
The reason he gave, which was roughly "if there had been a rvs we probably wouldn't be stalled right now", is actually a pretty good pro-town reason, isn't it?

Not to mention that a rvs is not at all useless, as it does give out leads to follow.

Very convinced right now that sens is scum.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:20 pm

scotmany12 wrote:
SensFan wrote:ckd, I've answered those questions.
No you didn't. You especially haven't explained why you believe me to be scum.

please provide a post, sens.

FaerieLord · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:29 pm

I honestly cannot see how Sens can debate that a RVS is useless, considering if it was useless, games wouldn't partake in it. It obviously has some use

TDC · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:56 pm

I'm not sure why we're debating the usefulness of the RVS at all. It's not as if FL wanted to have an RVS

instead

of what we had, anyway.

Ren Hoek · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:42 am

I'm hugely disappointed with CKD's lack of substance in this game.

SensFan · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:11 am

FaerieLord wrote:I honestly cannot see how Sens can debate that a RVS is useless, considering if it was useless, games wouldn't partake in it. It obviously has some use

An RVS certainly has some use. I find a ton of Scum with it, actually.
11 pages of discussion is infinitely more useful.

Ren Hoek · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:23 am

SensFan wrote:11 pages of discussion is infinitely more useful.

Eighteen pages should be even better. Who is the scum?

scotmany12 · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:23 am

Ren Hoek wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with CKD's lack of substance in this game.

Better than some people's (i.e. CryWolf, who really needs to post something).

SensFan · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:28 am

Ren Hoek wrote:
SensFan wrote:11 pages of discussion is infinitely more useful.

Eighteen pages should be even better. Who is the scum?

You know I've given my opinion on that.

FL, scot, Ren. In no particular order.

scotmany12 · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:43 am

SensFan wrote:
Ren Hoek wrote:
SensFan wrote:11 pages of discussion is infinitely more useful.

Eighteen pages should be even better. Who is the scum?
You know I've given my opinion on that.

FL, scot, Ren. In no particular order.

And yet you continually ignore people when they ask you to explain why you believe me to be scum. I'll ask you one more time, why do you think that I am scum?

Budja · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:44 am

This has already been asked but why scot? I can't see any point at all that you have made against him.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:54 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:
scotmany12 wrote:
SensFan wrote:ckd, I've answered those questions.
No you didn't. You especially haven't explained why you believe me to be scum.
please provide a post, sens.

confirm vote Sens..

caught you in a pile of bullshit..you try to lie yourself out of it, thinking I will let it go.....not going away.

Ren Hoek wrote:I'm hugely disappointed with CKD's lack of substance in this game.

why, because I am not joining your wagon against cry?...or because I am attacking your scum buddy?

Ren Hoek · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:23 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:why, because I am not joining your wagon against cry?...or because I am attacking your scum buddy?

No, because you were hanging back.

But now I see you are in full form again.

Thanks for squeezing SensFan. Both him and crywolf need squeezing. As much as I'd love to hammer SensFan, I won't do it until we get some crywolf blood.

crywolf20084 · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:21 am

Requesting Replacement

as life has gotten in my way and i'm going v/la for a week in 7 days. sorry

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:21 pm

Getting the ball rolling on my new mini theme took up the majority of my MS time today. Sorry for the delay, I'll start in on this tomorrow.

vollkan · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:46 pm

ren wrote: @ vollkan

Limiting your analysis to 3 players (suggested by another player, Adel) doesn't sit well with me. Are you unable or unwilling to think for yourself and put pressure on players that have gotten away with lurking or flying under the radar, for instance? Adel himself isn't worthy of being looked at? What about Budja?

I think you are beating up on this unreasonably. Sure, that post only dealt with three people, but nothing I have said in any way implied that I am somehow limiting my analysis to those three.

Sens wrote: I'd go with Volkan's list, except he appears to not really care about looking at the attack in detail, given he missed the relevence about me not having any votes, and threw some general nondescript about how certain words I used are "an easy way to smear", without saying why they were bad in this case.

What was the relevance of you not having votes on you? I really don't see what the link is here. You having no votes on you has no bearing on whether or not voting someone else to L-1 is chicken

To elaborate on the smearing thing. I think that certain words - "wifom", "strawman", "misrepresent" as obvious examples - have a tendency to be overused and overstretched as a means of turning misunderstanding into a pseudo-scumtell. I don't see any strawman in the "i don't have any votes thing", because I'm still confused as to what sensible meaning can come from it. As for the misrepresenting thing, it's not at all unreasonable that Ren would see your response of "Awesome, thanks for letting me know" as showing some eagerness. Maybe you didn't mean it that way. But that doesn't make it a "misrepresentation". Just to be clear, the words I've identified are often entirely appropriate in this game, but they are also very often misused.

scotmany12 · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:20 am

I'm annoyed that sens apparently has the time to constantly post in other games and other threads on the site but yet he can't answer a simple question of why he thinks I am scum. Him constantly ignoring that question which a few people have asked him is condemning.

Goatrevolt · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:29 am

Gonna catch up today/tonight.

SensFan · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:58 am

scotmany12 wrote:I'm annoyed that sens apparently has the time to constantly post in other games and other threads on the site but yet he can't answer a simple question of why he thinks I am scum. Him constantly ignoring that question which a few people have asked him is condemning.

I think that your attack on me was bullshit and opprtunistic.