Mini 570, A Small Town in Italy Mafia, Over

[Erratus Apathos]

I'm still here

Actually, I'm At the point where I'm almost going to prod everyone.

Infact I am going to prod everyone.

ftr, I didnt proded

[MightyFireball]

I have returned all. I had to leave for New York at 5 AM Friday morning and didn't get a chance to tell you all before I left. However, I have now returned, and my activity level should pick up.

I'm of the opinion that sykedoc's Mason partner should wait until he is called to claim to reveal his roles. As sykedoc said, it is possible that a member of the mafia will try to impersonate his partner, and in that case both mason partners can claim and out him. As it stands now, there is not much of a risk to sykedoc's life by waiting, as the common opinion is to wait until everyone has claimed anyway.

[avinashv]

My point was more that skyedoc was under heavy fire and almost at the guillotine earlier. Nevertheless, the flaw with waiting the roleclaims out to see his mason partner is that it is possible there isn't a mason group at all, and this is a great way for him and a scumbuddy to get a free pass.

There

has

to be at least one mason call, otherwise skyedoc is 100% scum, and it'll be interesting for me to see who calls it. I can't give anything away in the interests of making sure the roleclaims are accurate, but I am sure that all the townies have their eye on someone suspicious, that if he/she (are there any females left?) claims mason, will be a big scumtell.

Mod

: Has xxFoxxx replied to any prods? If not, we need a replacement on pretty short notice.

He is reading the prods, but not responding to them, gonna send one more before i activally sytart looking for a rep

- Niv

[sykedoc]

I think thats a horrible strategy, but whatever...

Btw. happy birthday.

[sykedoc]

EBWOP:
I'm not going to force him to reveal though. He'll reveal if he wants.

[MightyFireball]

Avinashv, it is possible that sykedoc and his scum buddy are trying to get a free pass on the mason group thing, but if there actually is a mason group, they'll out sykedoc (and his partner, should he claim as well). I think it'd be too risky of a strategy to employ in a game of this size, where there is a legitimate possibility of a mason group. I'd like to hear the opinions of others on this matter, however.

Sykedoc, were you referring to me or Avinashv when you said that it was a horrible strategy?

[sykedoc]

Avinashv.

[sykedoc]

Also am i wrong in assuming a setup of this size has a mason by default?

[sykedoc]

Traditional Mini of this size i mean.

[SensFan]

Also am i wrong in assuming a setup of this size has a mason by default?

Nice try. Next time, though, ask those types of questions BEFORE you fake-claim Mason...

For the record, my stance is that Cop+Doc is already broken as fuck in favor of the Town. The possibility we might have 2 more confirmed innocents is laughable.

[sykedoc]

Whoa whoa. I'm not fake claiming mason and if you pin that on me and lynch me, you'll be the first one to go the day after.

[avinashv]

@SensFan: That is the biggest problem with this whole thing. I didn't want to mention it, but it's outed now, so I'll comment on it. Even with a mafia roleblocker, I can't see a game this size having two confirmed townies, a legit cop and a doctor either. I loved your use of the word laughable.

@skyedoc: Thank you, it was a great day, and I really enjoyed myself. 21sts only come once a lifetime

@

Mod

: Thanks--weird that he's reading them but not responding.

@Town: Now that we're confirmed that Fox is reading the PM's but not responding, I'd like to put that at as a FoS. Based on that and skyedoc's ridiculous claim, I'd like to

big FoS

: skyedoc and

little FoS

: Fox.

[sykedoc]

Thats a very opportunistic way to try and get my lynched by the way. At what point did you automatically say that i couldn't POSSIBLY be mason? I've seen masons in MANY mini games so i made the assumption that you would know this already.

[sykedoc]

The claim is not ridiculous! How can you possibly infer that the moderator didn't put masons in!

You can obviously see the reason i'm not forcing my partner into claiming right now. I've played mafia enough to know that I'd be better off claiming vanilla if i were attempting to hide something.

If you kill me, its your own fault when you see that i'm mason and you really fucked up.

[sykedoc]

Why in all holy hell would i put myself into such a stupid situation?
I wouldn't.

Just to let you know. My partner is in fact active, he just doesn't seem to want to claim or defend me.... which is slightly agitating.

[MightyFireball]

Well, seeing as Sykedoc is getting himself into loads of crap and doesn't seem to be able to get himself out, I suppose I shall try to save him. I am Sykedoc's mason partner. There are no other masons in the group. This could end up being a bad move, but hopefully this will lend credibility to his claim. At the very least, if you lynch one of us, you'll know the other is innocent.

[SensFan]

Vote: Fireball

[MightyFireball]

That was blunt.

[SensFan]

As was claiming out of turn.

[Niv]

As of this Post, Destructor replaces xXfoxXx

Mighty Fireball - SensFan

[sykedoc]

As was claiming out of turn.

I asked for my partner to claim. Don't be a dick about it.

[avinashv]

@skyedoc: if you are in fact mason, you threw the game away for town here. (1) The three back-to-back posts, first two of which were separated by hours reek or desperation. Not only have you played just four games here (the other three of which have no exposed masons till now), but your argument is predicated on a whiney my word against yours. (2) You did not, in fact, directly ask your mason partner to claim

in this open town forum

. You would have immediately been shot down. Even if you were under intense scrutiny--which, you were--you had guaranteed no-lynch safety until everybody had claimed, a strategy that the town agreed to. After having killed that, you (3) go on to call SensFan out about it.

@MightyFireball: I am interested to know why you thought it was a good idea to break the claim-chain. Despite skyedoc's poor play here, you've--and this is if you are actually mason--played a pretty sensible game for the most part. A true mason group should have zero fear at this point, because there was no chance of getting either of you voted without giving you a chance to post defense because of the claim structure.

The other notable thing is that you asked for the town's opinion on this mason situation but didn't wait for it. EA and AP haven't posted since then.

For the record, I do not believe there is a mason group in a setup this small with a cop+doc already outed.

@SensFan: very minor point, but at first glance, the Fireball vote seemed a little opportunistic, but by reading the rest of this, you'll understand why I am not going to push this too hard. This is here for the sake of completeness.

@Erratus Apathos, Awesome Pants, Destructor: please weigh in ASAP. I'd like to hear what you guys think of skyedoc/MightyFireball's mason claim, Fireball claiming out of turn and who your current most likely scum-pair is.

@Town: I vote we continue the chain-claim, beginning at Destructor who's turn it is right now anyway. It has sort of lost it's biggest use, but I'd like to see the last few roles outed.

[avinashv]

EBWOP:

...reek

of

desperation...

[sykedoc]

@skyedoc: if you are in fact mason, you threw the game away for town here. (1) The three back-to-back posts, first two of which were separated by hours reek or desperation. Not only have you played just four games here (the other three of which have no exposed masons till now), but your argument is predicated on a whiney my word against yours. (2) You did not, in fact, directly ask your mason partner to claim

in this open town forum

. You would have immediately been shot down. Even if you were under intense scrutiny--which, you were--you had guaranteed no-lynch safety until everybody had claimed, a strategy that the town agreed to. After having killed that, you (3) go on to call SensFan out about it.
.

First off. You have no idea what i play. This isn't my first forum or mafia site in general. There are 100 legitimate strategies you can play from this point if you were thinking about it.
Second off, if you'd like to kill me and REALLY fuck things up, thats probably not a great idea but go ahead.
Third, i've been in games where i've avoided claiming miller and then when later on i revealed close to the end of the game, i was believed by no one when it was needed most, so this doesnt necessarily apply to just now. It can happen regardless of when i claim i could be distrusted, even if it was the perfect or not perfect time to claim.
Third, i've been studying and i was hardly aware of the no-lynch safety else i wouldn't have claimed... I've been under alot of stress the past few days so excuse me if i missed something.
Foruth, i wasn't exactly calling him out on the fact that he pointed it out, he was kindof a dick about it.
Fifth, I did ask him, asking someone to do something does not have to end with a question mark...
Sixth, are we still forgetting about the claim i requested from fox, who has been replaced and his replacement still isn't answering? He could be waiting for you to lynch me.

[sykedoc]

In reference to the studying, I'm on my last final and will give full attention from now on.