Mini 1064 - Charlie's Town (Game Over!)

[masfloohinev]

Check sig.

However, I am contemplating with a NK throwing all the cards out to see what shakes loose. Since I'd eat a hat if that was on purpose.

I doubt they would do that. No killing basically gave us the ability to mislynch again without losing.

[Charlie]

Vote count 16

Casus Belli (1) - Cogito Ergo Sum,
masfloohinev (1) - Reckamonic
jmurph3 (1) - masfloohinev
Substrike22 (1) - jmurph

Not voting: SpyreX, Nachomamma8, Llamafluff, Substrike22, Casus Belli
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[LlamaFluff]

I actually agree with a massclaim today. Should end up with a pair of cleared players, or a RBed guilty. Both good things. Either we have two clear out of nine, or have dead scum with a shot of second caught one tomorrow.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Now that I think about it, mass claim sounds good. The town can ill afford to mislynch at this point yet at the same scum are still forced to make claims that allow for long term survival. (+ info from no-kill last night.)

[Nachomamma8]

I agree with a popcorn massclaim. Instead of starting it with a volunteer, however, I'd rather start it with mas (yesterday's counterwagon), and move on from there.

[Substrike22]

I agree w/ Llama and Nacho. Mass claims starting with Mas.

[SpyreX]

Lets do this.

Leeeeroy Jenkinsss

[masfloohinev]

I agree with mass claiming. It would be better to do it today then during LyLo if we mislynch today.

I'm a VT. I would like if jmurph claimed next.

[Reckamonic]

WHY
THE FUCK
ARE WE MASSCLAIMING
ON DAY FUCKING TWO

no. We are not for this.
And if this HAS to happen, we'd like someone to popcorn to us fairly early.

[SpyreX]

Cause its Day 3 and there was an NK and a misshot is lylo and dealing with OHH NO I AM THE ROLEDOCTOR NO I AM SPARTACUS is always much more fun when the liars keep their filthy lies shut because they get strung up tomrrows?

[jmurph3]

Claim: VT

As per Reck's request, I'd like Reck to go next.

[Reckamonic]

K.

We are a doctor.
Not revealing night choices.

We'd like Substrike to claim next.

[Substrike22]

Claim VT. Popcorn Nacho.

[masfloohinev]

So, we still need to hear from:

Cogito Ergo Sum
SpyreX
Nachomamma8
Llamafluff
Casus Belli


I think Reckamonic should at least claim who they protected last night. I can't think of any reason for them not to.

[Reckamonic]

Shut the fuck up, we have our reasons.

[LlamaFluff]

Reck doesnt claim a target until after massclaim. Duh.

People are confusing me at this point. Starting to wonder if original M read was wrong at this point, with the reck claim though scum are nearly for sure in a CES/substrike/M/jmurph group. Nacho is still ultra-town, Spy is town because nacho is town (although if there is scum in that duo its him, although he isnt im pretty sure). CB is still a wildcard, I go back and forth on that slot constantly, I just have that nagging feeling that im calling him town over odd stuff. Hydras are hard to read, but they hit some strong hydra-town tells. Have to side with them being town.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Personally, I'm rather confused by the whole wanting to claim early thing, but we'll deal with that after the mass claim.

[Nachomamma8]

JOAT.

Casus, you're next.

[masfloohinev]

I can understand Reckamonic claiming after we've mass claimed. I thought they were saying they weren't going to claim their protection at all. If that's the case, I am confused.

After we've mass claimed, would it be a good idea for Nachomamma to say if he protected somebody last night if he has the power to?

[jmurph3]

@Mas: Not sure. A JOAT can (potentially) do more than just protect, correct? So if his action was something other than protect, would we want to know what that action was? I'll be honest, I've not played with a JOAT before, so I'm not entirely sure how this typically works.

And I was reading what Reck was saying the same as you: I thought Reck wasn't going to claim who he protected at all. I'm still not entirely sure which he meant, and still not sure why he wouldn't share at all. I can absolutely see the idea of not revealing until everyone has claimed; that actually just makes sense to me. But as far as not revealing at all...that doesn't read as particularly pro-town to me.

[Casus Belli]

We are town tracker.

N1 we tracked CES due to our suspicions of him. He did not go anywhere. It is our experience that scum teams will keep sending the same person to to the night kills unless there was some reason or town suspicion to send someone else on the team to do the kill. So his lack of action N1 means he is either VT or scum goon who did not send the kill N1. We had been planning on tracking Shotty after our N1 results came in until Llama came around and changed our view. That left masf as a good track target for N2 as between the two us he seemed a good target and we had been going bakc and forth in our hydra QT about some stuff. Normally we wouldn't think much of a player visiting someone unless the target was dead the next morning and we would just try and poke and prod at both the target to see if they might have not gotten some flavor that night (as a target who might have been role blocked) or the targeter; but, masf seems to think he is a VT, which our track results say otherwise... so...

Vote: masfafaluso

CES next.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Was not expecting that.

VT, Llama next (which means SpyreX finishes and then we can get to the bottom of all of this).

[LlamaFluff]

Cool beans. Will vote M soon, just want to try and work things out in my head a bit about what types of claiming has been done and how we can clear the most people out of it. Not wanting to risk self-hammer when there probably is a good way to get more out of this day.

Also im VT

[jmurph3]

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: Mas

That's good enough for me.

Though if Mas ends up flipping town-aligned, I suggest we take a closer look at CB. I find it a bit suspicious that there'd be a tracker, a cop, and a JOAT in the same game. Bit too investigative-heavy for me (or else Charlie's having a laugh over this )

[Reckamonic]

Is that all the claims?
It can't be.