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Post Post #3975 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:56 pm

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In post 3966, Elena Fisher wrote:Vifam is Town
VOTE: Fliz
This or Fuzz
I assume by "Fliz" you mean "Fitz?" If so, why me?

Also...pet peeve I find very annoying....being referred to as "it" or "this"...there may be more.
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Post Post #3976 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:05 am

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If A50 has more shots I think town has at least 2 mislynches it can survive....3 if A50 is done shooting.

Any more info from Comm would be nice.

Elena looks a liiiittle better for role in lynching XnadrojX.
My preferences in order are probably Vifam, FuzzyLogic, SlySly and if necessary...a close decision between Tywin and Elena.

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Post Post #3977 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:47 am

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In post 3965, CommKnight wrote:We know the last mafia is a redirector and they can't redirect our actions because they must make the kill now with goon dead.
Unfortunately, they can. They are now the last scum alive and can do both.
In post 3726, D3f3nd3r wrote:
In post 3724, Ramcius wrote:
Mod
does mafia members can use their abilities and carry same night?
No, unless they are the last remaining member of the scum team.

Assuming carry = do the kill.
In post 3973, havingfitz wrote:
In post 3965, CommKnight wrote:Not sure why they shot Ramcius over redirecting him though, that makes no sense what so ever.
They can't do both so they preferred getting rid of the player over redirecting him.
See above.

It's very likely that they redirected my shot and killed the JK to prevent any no NK's in the future. Redirecting my shot gives them one more NK to their advantage and being the last one in 9 players they do need it.

Unfortunately; I used my delayed shot (won't tell you on whom yet though) so they'll have to wait to see whom I shot, and besides I COULD NOT HAVE BEEN REDIRECTED, so that was a waste. It's still good for scum if I used my shot on someone other than them though. They got a free kill anyway.

There's also the possibility of Ram being killed to prove him a Town JK and thus bring back fitz itno the suspects pool based on No NK when jailed theory.

According to my reads; Sly is unlikely to be scum with Xnad flipping red.

Now let's go back to this:
In post 1861, D3f3nd3r wrote:
Vifam [L-2] RadiantCowbells, Firebringer,
Ramcius
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ssbm_Kyouko
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Land of Xanth
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XnadrojX
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PeregrineV
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Xnad ws the only flipped scum on the Vifam wagon be the end of D1. To it's either Vifam is scum and thus they didn't want him lynched, or Elena is and thus 2 on that wagon already with the other 2 staying out.

VOTE: Vifam

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Post Post #3978 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:48 am

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In post 3966, Elena Fisher wrote:Vifam is Town
VOTE: Fliz
This or Fuzz
Not sure who this is for, not counting.
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Post Post #3979 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:44 am

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Elena is hard buddying Vifam with "Vifam is town", so unless she knows something concrete that we don't. Elena could be the scum and buddying up to an actual town that is scum read regularly.

Also I thought I read the mod's post as the last scum had to pick either their power or the kill. Thanks for the quote A50. I would assume he'd redirect either you or me. So either someone you didn't choose is dying or my results will be once again screwed up. Either way, by who dies, you'll know if it was you redirected and if not we'll know I was redirected.

Also it'd be stupid to try and frame Fitz, because he wasn't the mafiaso. The mafiaso (one without powers) would be the one making the kills. Not the redirector. So by extension, the no-kill is NOT explained by Fitz being jailed.
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Post Post #3980 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:52 am

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In post 3979, CommKnight wrote:Also it'd be stupid to try and frame Fitz, because he wasn't the mafiaso. The mafiaso (one without powers) would be the one making the kills. Not the redirector. So by extension, the no-kill is NOT explained by Fitz being jailed.
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Post Post #3981 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:17 am

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VOTE: SlySly
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Post Post #3982 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:25 am

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In post 3981, Vifam wrote:VOTE: SlySly
And that's because ... ?

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Post Post #3983 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:28 am

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Wonder why XnadrojX stayed off Vifam wagon D4. Could have put Vifam at L-1 instead of making a useless vote on Elena.

I.e. vote Vifam.
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Post Post #3984 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:40 am

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Like I say, Vifam is still in my lynch pool. Not sure why Elena is protecting Vifam. But honestly Vifam looks like the redirector that they did not want to lose.
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Post Post #3985 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:13 am

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Well, if he does flip redirector and the game doesn't end we know whom to lynch next ;)

I mean, 5 scum may now look ba;anced if we assume 2 goons (1 flipeed), 1 encryptor (flipped), 2-X Ninja (flipped) and redirector (unflipped but strong evidence they exist).

This effectively means the PRs scum had were a redirector and a 2-shot Ninja (encryptor is cool and all, but not a PR to be reckned IMHO). They were up against a JK, Watcher, Role Cop & a Vig (not to mention a 2-X neighboprizer), so 5 is ok for balance.

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Post Post #3986 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:14 am

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In short: Vifam lynch not ending the game automatically gets Elena lynched tomorrow! Hmmm.. thinking of switching to Elena today. :lol:

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Post Post #3987 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:17 am

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The thing is my early game notes said Xnad was NOT scum with Sly, while Elena could be. With Xnad actually flipping red I took it that Sly wasn't scum, and thus put Elena a step back on the lynch priority. Had Xnad flipped green I would have been positive both Elena and Sly were scum together.

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Post Post #3988 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:34 am

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Just some food for thought.
In post 2434, XnadrojX wrote:VOTE: Fuzzy

Cuz i cant play and I'm just gonna sheep the biggest wagon :^)
Sheeps against Fuzzy.
In post 3814, XnadrojX wrote:VOTE: Elena
Gut tells me so.
Also tywin is still town. Vifam is idk.
A brief skim makes me think I should lynch this slot.
Buddies Tywin, votes Elena but refuses to sort Vifam.

VOTE: Vifam
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Post Post #3989 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:01 am

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In post 3967, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I did not vote XnadrojX, yesterday so I should be suspect IMHO.......My james vote was kinda weak,
Tywin did not vote James or XnadrojX,, This might be bad read but it also could be scum protecting scum.

Comm- Did you investigate anyone last night and who,
Its been 4 days have you been able to come up with anything useful with your investigation

On the redirector how do we know we have one...... Yes it was claimed but how do we know that it was a lie. I am looking for something solid to prove we likely have a redirector

we know atleast 1 scum was on the Vilfam wagon.

more later.............
Actually, I declared intention to hammer both of them, but some randos like Vifam jumped in to do it first without waiting for a claim or for everyone to post. If you've ever actually read the thread whatsoever, you'd know this.

What strikes me as funny is that the people that jumped to hammer without waiting for a claim and doing it before I could have been Nero and now Vifam. Nero flipped scum and wanted the town cred. My thoughts are that Vifam is also scum and wanted the town cred.

VOTE: vifam

Otherwise, fuzzy is scum and his blatant misrepresentations of how the game has unfolded and what has been said is pretty terrible. Still, he could just be new town. Idk. What I do know is that there's two people who ninja hammered scum without waiting for a claim after I gave intention to hammer. These players didn't care and voted ASAP to get on the already for sure wagon.

Since Nero flipped scum, my bet is that Vifam will too. Fuzzy did defend xnad and didn't want him lynched, but that seems more townie than Vifam seemingly already knowing alignments and never being voted by scum. Ever.
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Post Post #3990 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:03 am

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In post 3983, havingfitz wrote:Wonder why XnadrojX stayed off Vifam wagon D4. Could have put Vifam at L-1 instead of making a useless vote on Elena.

I.e. vote Vifam.
Scum stayed off Vifam D1 too. And D2. And D3.
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Post Post #3991 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:04 am

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I think Vifam is L1 or close to it. Vifam claim?
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Post Post #3992 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:06 am

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Yep he's L1. Nobody hammer yet.
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Post Post #3993 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:25 am

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@MOD V/LA until the 17th I'm having major problems at home here so sorry
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Post Post #3994 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:05 am

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will hammer after Vifam claims unless he gives me a good reason not to,

been busy today with jury duty so I just now had time to post
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Post Post #3995 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:07 am

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Im VT
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Post Post #3996 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:25 am

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In post 3994, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:will hammer after Vifam claims unless he gives me a good reason not to,
In post 3995, Vifam wrote:Im VT
Fuzzy, was the 4 char response convincing enough to keep your hammer away?
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Post Post #3997 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:02 am

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In post 3995, Vifam wrote:Im VT
Villain Trolling?? :P

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Post Post #3998 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:47 am

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VC 5.1 (3/13/17)


CommKnight [L-5]

Not Chara [L-5]

SlySly [L-4]
Vifam
Havingfitz [L-5]

Vifam [L-1]
Havingfitz, Almost50, CommKnight, Tywin Lannister
Elena Fisher [L-5]

TheFuzzylogic99 [L-5]

Almost50 [L-5]

Tywin Lannister [L-4]
SlySly
No Lynch [L-5]

Not Voting [3]
Not Chara, Elena Fisher, TheFuzzylogic99

Deadline is 10pm on Sunday 3/26. That is in (expired on 2017-03-26 22:00:00).

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Post Post #3999 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:22 pm

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nope.......

if Viffam is scum it makes sense that scum avoided lynching him.

Vote Vifam. At this point its worth the risk

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