Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[SirCakez]

JOAT doesn't make sense in a game like this where everyone already has limited shots

[Frizzy Cola]

FC is it worth motivating you again?

Very

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Yume is prodded. She has 24 hours to respond (deadline : (expired on 2016-08-13 15:46:00)) or she will be replaced.
This is Yume's second prod. Upon receiving the third she will be replaced without any delay.

[Motoko and Scully]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

[Frizzy Cola]

Pretty sure there are no JOATs

[shaddowez]

M&S

- quick question for you just to clarify something. Well, two.

1) Did Luna announce in Hood who she was copping?
2) Do you believe the redirector specifically wanted a guilty on ABR?

[shaddowez]

These may have been answered in thread already, but I don't feel like dredging through pages just to find random posts.

[DrippingGoofball]

Who claimed JOAT? I want to lynch that.

[Radical Rat]

Mechanically... I've got nothing.
Which is why I said Shiro and I both need to be conftown before we make any lynches on the assumption that there has to be someone else with the ability to redirect out there.

That can be handled quite easily though.
Beeboy's plan will prevent another redirection from taking place (or at least without us catching it), so Luna could use her double cop on us. If a redirection happens, it proves the Scum warden theory, and Shiro and I should be lynched and/or vigged immediately.

[Radical Rat]

Who claimed JOAT? I want to lynch that.

I don't think anyone claimed, which is why it's hypothetical right now.

[PeregrineV]

@RR Do you believe there's more than two redirectors?

Absolutely.
If Shiro were scum, she would have fakeclaimed something aside from Redirector.

Scum also want to stick as close to the truth as possible, so I can't give credit for this.

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

[Motoko and Scully]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

[Motoko and Scully]

M&S

- quick question for you just to clarify something. Well, two.

1) Did Luna announce in Hood who she was copping?
2) Do you believe the redirector specifically wanted a guilty on ABR?

1) She might as well have.
2) No. I believe scum wanted a guilty on anyone. Luna happened to target the person scum sent to nightkill.
3) If ABR died, that ruins scums fake guilty plan.
4) Scum therefore using the redirect and killing suggests a completely clear Tevinter.

[Radical Rat]

@RR Do you believe there's more than two redirectors?

Absolutely.
If Shiro were scum, she would have fakeclaimed something aside from Redirector.

Scum also want to stick as close to the truth as possible, so I can't give credit for this.

Surely she would have known that claiming redirector after a Cop gets redirected would open a wagon on her.

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

[SirCakez]

Who claimed JOAT? I want to lynch that.

no one did, it's RR theorizing

[Motoko and Scully]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

So you're at either Luna is scum or RR is?

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

So you're at either Luna is scum or RR is?

Yup, From my PoV there is no alternative and I can see where this is going, your next question will be, So why are you voting me ? And the answer is I am following beeboys plan because it will prevent scum from killing Luna (in case she is town) which can assist us ton.

[Motoko and Scully]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

So you're at either Luna is scum or RR is?

Yup, From my PoV there is no alternative and I can see where this is going, your next question will be, So why are you voting me ? And the answer is I am following beeboys plan because it will prevent scum from killing Luna (in case she is town) which can assist us ton.

We have wardens for that.

[shaddowez]

So here is my theory, which paints msyelf or Masq/DGB as scum. It still involves ABR (and rb to a point) lying, but not some telepathic agreement between the two of them.

For reference, any time I use the word "know" in the following scenario means absolute truth, as in mod-confirmed.

In Orlais, the only person who knows who the Kingmaker is is the Kingmaker themself. The only people who know who the warden is are the Kingmaker (as they choose the warden) and the warden themself.

On D1, ABR claimed Kingmaker, both in thread and in the hood. There are a maximum of two people that know the truth of this - ABR himself, and if he's lying the actual Kingmaker. Nobody counter-claimed him in the hood, so there was no reason to doubt this. Both of the following scenarios point to ABR being targeted, as M&S insist happens.

Scenario 1- Assuming ABR wasn't lying, and there is scum in the hood, why would they decide to shoot a Kingmaker rather than one of the claimed wardens, especially when one of them was likely a cop?

Scenario 2 - Assuming ABR was lying about Kingmaker, somebody else was Kingmaker. If said Kingmaker was scum, they could choose ABR to be warden and then kill him, effectively negating the warden ability for Orlais that night. Since ABR had claimed cop, he was also the best option since any result he got would have been for naught since he wouldn't be able to pass it on. He was also unlikely to be protected in any manner, since he was assumed to be Kingmaker and not warden.

Now, for the final thought before my vote - immediately before ABR claimed Kingmaker in the hood, Masq says Kingmaker should out themselves in the hood but not tell us who was warden.

I'm still prone to think M&S is scum, since she is the only one insisting on an ABR shot and never bothered to think of this scenario, but I'm sure about this one.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DGB

[Motoko and Scully]

@Shaddowez,

Who asked for the Kingmaker to out in the hood?
Why would I know about what was going on in your hood? Your theory that I would guess that necessarily requires that I knew that someone asked and who that someone was. That's information I don't have.

[shaddowez]

Masq asked (this was early on, before she replaced out). DGB is her replacement.

[shaddowez]

I'm generally terrible at VCA, so take this with a grain of salt, but D1 wagons make me fairly certain that scum is DGB/RR/M&S

[Radical Rat]

I am Town.

Sorry, forgot about that earlier.