Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

DeathNote · Post Post #3900 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:46 am

Well even if he was unlychable, he definitily wasn't unvigable, but now I am confused as to how many deathnotes are out there. Perhaps Vi gave MBL his deathnote but even then, wouldn't Misa and Rem both have one? Why are they not using it?

Not voting: mykonian, Gorrad, LlamaFluff, Lamont_Cranston, Stephoscope, Kairyuu, DeathNote, Starbuck, Kmd4390, Knight of Cydonia, xylthixlm, zwetchenwasser

Something was wrong with me then!

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3901 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:00 am

Ya KMD is there. I'll re-do the list...

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3902 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:05 am

zwetschenwasser

-- claimed & confirmed town PR

Kmd4390

-- obv-town (not pro-kira)

Starbuck

-- not pro-kira

Stephoscope

-- confirmed town PR

Gorrad

-- claiming town aligned

Lamont_Cranston

-- 99% confirmed town

Albert B. Rampage Skruffs millar13 Knight of Cydonia

-- unknown

Seraphim DeathNote

-- unknown

Kairyuu

-- Possible scum

OR

ZEEnon Sir Tornado xylthixlm

-- possible scum

LlamaFluff

-- Shingami

mykonian

-- Shingami

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This list is in high-flux because we are actively working out issues in real-time.

Those in red are areas of focus that need to be clarified.

Those that are uncolored could easily belong in the red category if evidence is brought to light.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3903 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:08 am

I think KoC should be held in suspicion for trying to pull that "Starbuck is Misa" ploy on the town. I don't see him being able to be so easily fooled...

Kairyuu · Post Post #3904 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:08 am

-bows to Lamont-

Our dayvig is now confirmed town. Whoever it was just destroyed a death note, and that's one of the two 1-1 situations taken care of right there.

vote: Xyl

He's the lynch today, for obvious reasons.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3905 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:12 am

Ok, we also have a Xyl claim AND a Kai claim and only one of them is telling the truth. Both of them are capable of great trickery...

Kairyuu · Post Post #3906 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:12 am

@Lamont: the KoC/Starbuck situation can be dealt with tomorrow. We had 3 cop "guilties" at the beginning of the Day, and it has thus far lead to a destroyed note. I think we should take care of the other guilties before we deal with an unknown.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3907 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:16 am

Stepho:

Can we lynch someone else and investigate one of them tonight and then lynching one of them tomorrow?

Personally, I believe Kai here. I think Xyl is claiming to defend himself from an accurate peek. The only question that comes to mind is:

Why didn't Xyl just go along with the night chat idea? Why did he make up a claim where he has no night chat?

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3908 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:18 am

O my. If he is holding a death note he would need a night to pass it...

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3909 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:19 am

No but still he could of made up a claim where he had night chat and avoided all of this...

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3910 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:20 am

UNLESS, he was afraid of Kai trickery and is indeed holding a death note! See what if Kai had an ability to prove more about his night chat? He figured it was a trick and couldn't risk it because he had a death note.

Wow this seems really plausible...

Kairyuu · Post Post #3911 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:29 am

Hmm. Another interesting bit of information that can be gleaned from the destruction of this death note is that Vi (Light) was NOT holding a death note after all. I wonder why.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3912 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:21 am

Lamont_Cranston wrote:No but still he could of made up a claim where he had night chat and avoided all of this...

I claimed my real role. I don't have another one.

vote: Kairyuu

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3913 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:24 am

Xyl, what is Kai's motivation for coming out of the blue and accusing you? When you flip town-aligned his carcass gets rung up??

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3914 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:25 am

I can see how you would be caught pro-kira holding a note here though...

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3915 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:33 am

Lamont_Cranston wrote:Xyl, what is Kai's motivation for coming out of the blue and accusing you? When you flip town-aligned his carcass gets rung up??

I'm guessing he has some sort of scum info role, and thinks I'm shinigami/third-party and is trying to get me lynched for town credit. Or maybe he's a shinigami/third-party with an info role and thinks I'm scum.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3916 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:40 am

Ya but the point here is that his info role says you have night chat ability...

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3917 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:48 am

Lamont_Cranston wrote:Ya but the point here is that his info role says you have night chat ability...

He's

lying

.

He probably has an info role, but not the one he says he has.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3918 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:54 am

Let's see. There's at most two Death Notes left and a protown daykiller out there. I get lynched, two night kills, and tomorrow it's 5 town vs 3 shinigami and Misa. Lynch Kairyuu, if he's Misa then LlamaFluff dies and we can lynch him again the next day, if he's a shinigami ... hmm that doesn't work as well.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3919 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:09 am

Yes but what would his motivationbe for lying -- you haven't explained that...

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3920 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:28 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
Lamont_Cranston wrote:Xyl, what is Kai's motivation for coming out of the blue and accusing you? When you flip town-aligned his carcass gets rung up??
I'm guessing he has some sort of scum info role, and
thinks I'm shinigami/third-party and is trying to get me lynched for town credit
. Or maybe he's a shinigami/third-party with an info role and thinks I'm scum.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3921 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:33 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Lamont_Cranston wrote:Xyl, what is Kai's motivation for coming out of the blue and accusing you? When you flip town-aligned his carcass gets rung up??

I'm guessing he has some sort of scum info role

Ok this is entirely possible.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3922 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:34 am

I say our best bet is to either NL or find someone else to lynch and investigate one of these (prob Xyl imo) and we can 100% lynch one of them tomorrow.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3923 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:38 am

@Kai & Xyl:

1) What do you think about investigating one of you tonight?
2) Who should we investigate?
3) If the person we investigate comes up clear, do we have your permission to 100% lynch the other person and do we have 100% certainty of being correct?

Kairyuu · Post Post #3924 (ISO) » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:34 am

@Lamont:

1) I would be fine with it, but keep in mind that it wastes an investigation when lynching one of us would be far faster.

2) I don't care who get's investigated. If it's me it will be town, and if it's Xyl it will not.

3) If the investigation clears me, then yes, you have my full permission to assist me in lynching Xyl. Then again, you can help me lynch him today instead and save time. Hell, you can lynch me and have the dayvig take Xyl down right off the bat tomorrow if you REALLY want to.

@all: the scumteam has been considerably weakened over the last 2 game Days. Motivation for me to put myself into a 1-1 situation is completely nonexistant, as I have drawn only slight suspicion over the course of the game, and it would lead directly to my death even if i got Xyl lynched first. On the other hand, motivation for Xyl to put himself into a 1-1 with a claimed cop, when the alternative is telling the town the name of at least one of his scumbuddies is CONSIDERABLY higher. Correct play for scum in Xyl's situation is to call me a liar. He will die and flip scum regardless, but at the same time he has the potential to take down a cop in the process AND doesn't have to throw a scumbuddy in the line of fire. If you look at the motivations which led to this situation being a 1-1, the choice is quite clear as to who stands to gain the most from lying.