Mini 610: Ace Attorney Mafia - Game Over!!

[Mirth]

On avatars: I don't want one. If I'm the only one in a game without an avatar, that should be a pretty easy scan too.

On BM being emotional: yes, he is actually like this. This is why I have no read on him yet.

If I had to vote now, it would be a threeway tie between BM (though, again, I can't really be sure if he's just being himself), Tajo (for going on about how BG was innocent), and Joubert (for refusing to participate).

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Non-Jurors:

**Rishi: (0/7)
Joubert: (0/7)
Matt_S: (0/7)
Natirasha: (0/7)
populartajo: (1/7) {Battle Mage}

Jurors

ChiefSkye4: (0/6, 0/1)
Cream147: (0/6, 0/1)
Gorrad: (0/6, 0/1)
malthusis: (0/6, 0/1)
Mirth: (1/6, 1/1) {malthusis}, Joubert
SlySly: (1/6, 1/1) {Gorrad}, Matt_S
Battle Mage: (0/6, 2/1) populartajo, Rishi

Not Voting: (5/12) ChiefSkye4, SlySly, Cream147, Natirasha, Mirth

Deadline for D1: Sunday July 5, 6:15PM GMT+10
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[Battle Mage]

Right so, with only 2 people weighing in, due to the fact both of you have only deigned to name 3 suspects, we are already in a position where the only lynch we can agree on is Populartajo. Not that i have any real issue with that, but i do worry that it gives us little scope for manoevre.

Anyway, i think it's time to start piling our votes on.

BM

*also, Mirth, just get an avatar. I can understand you want to be like me in every way, but such idol-worship can be confusing for some of the newer players.

[Mirth]

How about this: if you create an avatar I deem worthy, I will adopt it?

[Battle Mage]

lol you seem to be under the false impression that i CARE.

[Mirth]

Actually, I directed that comment at you specifically since you're pretty much the last person I expect to do even consider doing it, so anyone who feels like griping about my lack of an avatar can gripe at you instead

[Battle Mage]

they do that already!

you gonna vote for Tajo or what?

BM

[Mirth]

Not quite yet. I'd like to hear some more talking.

Mod: can you prod Sly and Malth and anyone else whos been quiet lately?

[Battle Mage]

We only have a few days. We need a unanimous vote. You are one of the more active people here, and its not like we're gonna get a premature lynch by any means. But, by not voting you are not setting a good example to the less active people.

FoS: Mirth

< and that is how you do bold tags

BM

[Mirth]

I know we're not going to get a premature lynch. I'm holding off because I'm not entirely happy with it and I would like more conversation first. Since when is it my job to set a good example for people? This is not a newbie game. It's also not like deadline is tomorrow. We till have a couple of days and I want to use them.

[Rishi]

I personally think we shouldn't vote off Rishi yet, but there's simply no way that we can pin the tail on one single player in 2 days (For the fact that we pretty much all think that a number of people that could be scum.)
If I was Rishi right now I'd say any investigate results he had (doubtful of that) and say who he thought was on his scum list before gets sentenced.

SlySly has not posted since last Wednesday and should be prodded.

When I was looking for malth's last post (which was easy to find because I could find his avatar!), I noticed this gem.

Let me summarize this paragraph for you: "I don't think Rishi is scum, but it is too difficult to find a lynch, so I'm not going to try. Thanks for playing, Rishi. Claim now."

So, this isn't scummy?

[Rishi]

Oh,

Unvote, Vote: malthusis

[Battle Mage]

I know we're not going to get a premature lynch. I'm holding off because I'm not entirely happy with it and I would like more conversation first. Since when is it my job to set a good example for people? This is not a newbie game. It's also not like deadline is tomorrow. We till have a couple of days and I want to use them.

Look at the overall activity of this game. Not everyone is checking in daily. Its your job to set a good example for people if you are town, because A: you want to give townies every opportunity to contribute and B: you dont want to give scum an excuse to NOT contribute.
We need a unanimous verdict to even save Rishi here, so the only way you are going to get an alternative lynch is by convincing Gorrad. at the very LEAST. You have not attempted to do this, and you can probably see why i'm not buying the whole 'i'd like more conversation' bs. It's very easy to paddle that, but if you arent giving anything to the game yourself, how can you realistically ask others to do so?

Offer an alternative. Offer something to discuss. Offer SOMETHING. Don't say nothing, and then claim you are waiting for conversation, in order to perhaps recommence your shadow baiting earlier on in the game. It's very far from helpful, and doesnt show you in a protown light.

BM

[Rishi]

I know we're not going to get a premature lynch. I'm holding off because I'm not entirely happy with it and I would like more conversation first. Since when is it my job to set a good example for people? This is not a newbie game. It's also not like deadline is tomorrow. We till have a couple of days and I want to use them.

Look at the overall activity of this game. Not everyone is checking in daily. Its your job to set a good example for people if you are town, because A: you want to give townies every opportunity to contribute and B: you dont want to give scum an excuse to NOT contribute.
We need a unanimous verdict to even save Rishi here, so the only way you are going to get an alternative lynch is by convincing Gorrad. at the very LEAST. You have not attempted to do this, and you can probably see why i'm not buying the whole 'i'd like more conversation' bs. It's very easy to paddle that, but if you arent giving anything to the game yourself, how can you realistically ask others to do so?

Offer an alternative. Offer something to discuss. Offer SOMETHING. Don't say nothing, and then claim you are waiting for conversation, in order to perhaps recommence your shadow baiting earlier on in the game. It's very far from helpful, and doesnt show you in a protown light.

Wow. Good posting.

Major townie points for BM here.

[Matt_S]

The logical play for them would be to lurk and comment the less possible.

Oh I WISH things were that simple. Not only does that open you up for a ton of WIFOM, but it also assumes that the lurking scum juror won't be lynched by his peers for lurking. From the beginning, that whole incident was about keeping babygirl from being lynched.

Find another way.

If I'm worried about lurking, I generally use prods. Then they have to lurk in front of everyone.

I didnt ignore it. She is the defendant, duh.

Are you trying to say that it's excusable for the defendant to lurk?

[Battle Mage]

The logical play for them would be to lurk and comment the less possible.

Oh I WISH things were that simple. Not only does that open you up for a ton of WIFOM, but it also assumes that the lurking scum juror won't be lynched by his peers for lurking. From the beginning, that whole incident was about keeping babygirl from being lynched.

Find another way.

If I'm worried about lurking, I generally use prods. Then they have to lurk in front of everyone.

I didnt ignore it. She is the defendant, duh.

Are you trying to say that it's excusable for the defendant to lurk?

matt....please cast a vote already. thanks

BM

[Matt_S]

Oh right, there was another page. I'm not a juror, but a populartajo or SlySly lynch would be my choice.

[Mirth]

I know we're not going to get a premature lynch. I'm holding off because I'm not entirely happy with it and I would like more conversation first. Since when is it my job to set a good example for people? This is not a newbie game. It's also not like deadline is tomorrow. We till have a couple of days and I want to use them.

Look at the overall activity of this game. Not everyone is checking in daily. Its your job to set a good example for people if you are town, because A: you want to give townies every opportunity to contribute and B: you dont want to give scum an excuse to NOT contribute.
We need a unanimous verdict to even save Rishi here, so the only way you are going to get an alternative lynch is by convincing Gorrad. at the very LEAST. You have not attempted to do this, and you can probably see why i'm not buying the whole 'i'd like more conversation' bs. It's very easy to paddle that, but if you arent giving anything to the game yourself, how can you realistically ask others to do so?

Offer an alternative. Offer something to discuss. Offer SOMETHING. Don't say nothing, and then claim you are waiting for conversation, in order to perhaps recommence your shadow baiting earlier on in the game. It's very far from helpful, and doesnt show you in a protown light.

BM

I don't think you have the right to levy this criticism at me considering I've spent the first few weeks that this game was going on questioning everybody for everything. Frankly, I'm getting just a tiny bit fed up with the fact that people like Joubert keep popping in, making contentless posts, and ignoring my questions. I also don't like the whole "Rishi is town" assumption that is going on here. None of us (except scum and/or Rishi can know this for sure) so I'm a little suspicious of the whole "save Rishi" campaign that started back when Tajo and a couple of other people somehow magically deduced BG was innocent. So while I don't think Rishi is the best lynch, I don't like the assumption that he's not scum that's going around. I don't like my own personal list of suspects because it's mainly based on the inactivity of half the town. I know that not everyone can check the game every day, but it is not my responsibility to hold their hands and offer them a ready made lynch target because they don't feel like drawing up their own lists of suspects.

And I've decided that I'd much prefer a Joubert lynch to a Tajo lynch, because at least Tajo is trying to participate.

[Matt_S]

Ah, right, I forgot all about Joubert. I'd support that lynch as well.

[Battle Mage]

I know we're not going to get a premature lynch. I'm holding off because I'm not entirely happy with it and I would like more conversation first. Since when is it my job to set a good example for people? This is not a newbie game. It's also not like deadline is tomorrow. We till have a couple of days and I want to use them.

Look at the overall activity of this game. Not everyone is checking in daily. Its your job to set a good example for people if you are town, because A: you want to give townies every opportunity to contribute and B: you dont want to give scum an excuse to NOT contribute.
We need a unanimous verdict to even save Rishi here, so the only way you are going to get an alternative lynch is by convincing Gorrad. at the very LEAST. You have not attempted to do this, and you can probably see why i'm not buying the whole 'i'd like more conversation' bs. It's very easy to paddle that, but if you arent giving anything to the game yourself, how can you realistically ask others to do so?

Offer an alternative. Offer something to discuss. Offer SOMETHING. Don't say nothing, and then claim you are waiting for conversation, in order to perhaps recommence your shadow baiting earlier on in the game. It's very far from helpful, and doesnt show you in a protown light.

BM

I don't think you have the right to levy this criticism at me considering I've spent the first few weeks that this game was going on questioning everybody for everything. Frankly, I'm getting just a tiny bit fed up with the fact that people like Joubert keep popping in, making contentless posts, and ignoring my questions. I also don't like the whole "Rishi is town" assumption that is going on here. None of us (except scum and/or Rishi can know this for sure) so I'm a little suspicious of the whole "save Rishi" campaign that started back when Tajo and a couple of other people somehow magically deduced BG was innocent. So while I don't think Rishi is the best lynch, I don't like the assumption that he's not scum that's going around. I don't like my own personal list of suspects because it's mainly based on the inactivity of half the town. I know that not everyone can check the game every day, but it is not my responsibility to hold their hands and offer them a ready made lynch target because they don't feel like drawing up their own lists of suspects.

And I've decided that I'd much prefer a Joubert lynch to a Tajo lynch, because at least Tajo is trying to participate.

First off, i have the right to do whatever the hell i like. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you'll come to know and respect the way i play. I don't cower from a fight.
Secondly, it is the fact that you spent the most part of the early stages of the game chasing absolutely f*all that makes me concerned that you arent interested in actually committing to a lynch on good grounds- rather you want to continue to hunt for nonentities in order to fill up the thread and waste the day.

I'll read Joubert's play soon. You'll need Gorrad's thoughts too.

BM

[ChiefSkye4]

right, jurors, please post your lists of favourite lynches. NOW.

If I had to vote, only one person even stands out mildly to me, and that would be BM, and maybe, maybe, maybe Joubert. And not even that much. Now, BG stuck out to me as scummy, but Rishi is picking up the slack, and I'm not sure what to think about that whole ship now, so I can't wager there.

Quite honestly, I'd be willing to thow my vote to wherever it is needed to be unanimous, but I'd prefer it be BM or Joubert.

[populartajo]

BM tell me why am I scum now.

[populartajo]

The logical play for them would be to lurk and comment the less possible.

Oh I WISH things were that simple. Not only does that open you up for a ton of WIFOM, but it also assumes that the lurking scum juror won't be lynched by his peers for lurking. From the beginning, that whole incident was about keeping babygirl from being lynched.

Find another way.

If I'm worried about lurking, I generally use prods. Then they have to lurk in front of everyone.

I didnt ignore it. She is the defendant, duh.

Are you trying to say that it's excusable for the defendant to lurk?

You have to read all my posts if you want to EXACTLY understand what Im thinking.
1. I think that babygirl is town. Rishi also feels that way.
2. I think that there is at least one probable scum in the juror.
3. I think that we should lynch other person.
Prods wouldnt have worked the way I wanted to and I wanted to pressure the jury. There's like many people lurking and no one gives a damn.
I do it and voila, Im scum.
I dont get it.

[Battle Mage]

right, jurors, please post your lists of favourite lynches. NOW.

If I had to vote, only one person even stands out mildly to me, and that would be BM, and maybe, maybe, maybe Joubert. And not even that much. Now, BG stuck out to me as scummy, but Rishi is picking up the slack, and I'm not sure what to think about that whole ship now, so I can't wager there.

Quite honestly, I'd be willing to thow my vote to wherever it is needed to be unanimous, but I'd prefer it be BM or Joubert.

I dont suppose this is anything to do with the fact i have attacked and criticised your play? :Roll:

BM

[Mirth]

So I suppose we need to hear from Cream, Malth, and Sly now.

For the moment:

vote:Joubert

. Willing to move it to Tajo or possibly BM though.

[Cream147]

Ok, do you want my 3 scummiest?

I would say Joubert, Popular and...well Mirth, but she would be a last resort. It does seem to me like she's playing as she normally does. Whether she's a good player or not is unrelated to whether she's scummy or not.

I would go with a Joubert or Popular lynch right now.