Mini 168 - Item Mafia Game Over

[warpdragon]

fixing "no posts..." error

[Crola]

Okay, the only reason I have not deleted your post Warp, is because it's technically not in direct violation of any site rules, but:

1) Everyone should realize that Warp is making a hypothesis which could be completely wrong. Just like any hypothesis. And . . .
2) He is technically using outside information to prove a point.

Now, due to Number 2, Warp will not be allowed to use any night choces tonight. And if this happens again, there may be a mod kill issued.

Let's not get carried away and think that just because the mod had to dish out a punishment means that Warpdragon was right. No, he could have said the Empire Statebuilding was made out of cheese and therefore so and so is this role. If anyone uses outside information, no matter how ridiculous, it's still a violation.
If there are any questions, they are not to be written in the thread, but PMed to me.
Any knowledge that has been posted in this thread which has had some sort of outside influence, is to be disregarded and not spoken of further.
I am only leaving the post so that it doesn't seem like Warp has any advantages the other players don't.

[Assasin]

Okay, I've been saving up my coins and can finally do this.

I would like to purchase Shoes and Chewing gum

Right now I would like to hear what Strykker has to say after Warp's post.

[Crola]

Vote Count

1 Assasin

(armlx)

0 No Lynch

6 Not Voting

(Warp, Assasin, Strykker, Locus, Coolbot, Kleimer)

4

to lynch

NEW UPDATE

[StrykkerVerde]

I am the other mason.

[StrykkerVerde]

I would also like to purchase Chewing Gum. Sorry for the double post.

[warpdragon]

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I have something to say in my defense but its being reviewed with the mod.




Had I said "I think Strykker is the other mason because he knows Sapphire in real life" [then said said all of the posibilities] and then "Strykker, are you the mason?" would that have changed anything for the anyone?


Before we procede, I would like a statement of noncounterclaiming from Locus, Armlx and Assasin.

[CoolBot]

Personally, warpdragon, I don't find your reasoning that the Verdes are masons compelling. A very essential part of Mafia is that the roles are assigned randomly, and it would be a pretty big mistake on Crola's part to do so. Note this does not preclude Styker being mason as he claimed; he just had the same chance as the rest of us. Also note the same reasoning could make them scum together.

Also, i don't see why Locus, Armix, and Assasin should have to say they aren't mason. If they are, you can be sure they'd say something, so we can safely assume they're not if they don't say anything. That said, I find Locus to be the most suspicous, since he pushed the buying ammo theory well after it proved questionable with sycko's death and his subtle attempt to undermine my investigations.

vote: Locus Cosecant

Oh, kelimer, are you able to use items and recieve a result in the same night?

[armlx]

Ok. I'm for killing Locus now over Assassin or myself. If he is scum I think everything is under control, if hes not I'm confused.

Unvote

Vote Locus

[Assasin]

Actually, FYI I was the other mason. I think the reason Strykker claimed in the first place was because Warpdragon pretty much made a believable claim for him and he figured he should take advantage of the moment and get a believable role.

Vote StrykkerVerde

[warpdragon]

Ok so in this situation we go to plan 3/4. We lynch either Strykker or Assasin. I'm temped to

Vote Assasin

, because you didnt claim in post 352, before Strykker posted, which gave you more time tho think over wether counterclaiming would be a good idea.

We now know one of Strykker/Assasin and one of Armlx/Locus are scum.

Mod still hasnt gotten back to me, so dont lynch anyone yet.

[armlx]

My vote is on Locus now, but mainly to clear me so we don't waste a lynch. Theres another reason I won't say just yet, but lets just say I can have this whole thing under control. We lynch Locus then vig Assassin tonight (kleimars has a gun, right?). Unless we have totally missed we will end up in a 3 on 1, and even if we miss I say there is a decent chance of it being 3 to 2.

I think a role claim from me will help in the long run, so next post I make I will claim with role name and stuff unless people object.

Also, @ kleims, if Assassin, Stryyker, me, or Locus was the person you found innocent say so now so we have a confirmed scum.

[armlx]

My vote is on Locus now, but mainly to clear me so we don't waste a lynch. Theres another reason I won't say just yet, but lets just say I can have this whole thing under control. We lynch Locus then vig Assassin tonight (kleimars has a gun, right?). Unless we have totally missed we will end up in a 3 on 1, and even if we miss I say there is a decent chance of it being 3 to 2.

I think a role claim from me will help in the long run, so next post I make I will claim with role name and stuff unless people object.

Also, @ kleims, if Assassin, Stryyker, me, or Locus was the person you found innocent say so now so we have a confirmed scum.

[StrykkerVerde]

Assassin, the fact of the matter is that you wanted to make yourself seem innocent by counterclaiming my claim as Mason. However the fact is that if you really were the other mason you would have known that claiming was in the best interest of the town and would have claimed right away. Instead of claiming you actually asked me to respond to the question. If you were the mason, would you sit there and ask someone to claim, instead of claiming yourself and narrowing it down?

Regardless of what happens, if you guys lynch me then someone who is protown please buy a knife, and someone else buy a hammer, these block roles and items, I know what the hammer does because Sapphire had one. both of these items need to be used on Assassin if you kill me because otherwise he'll be able to kill someone else.

[Assasin]

I know what the hammer does because Saphire had one. It roleblocks someone. Howelse would I have known that?

[StrykkerVerde]

The fact that I just said it maybe. You also may have bought one on the blackmarket, who knows.

[Assasin]

oh, missed that part of the post.

[warpdragon]

We lynch Assasin. If the Assasin is scum, then Kleimar kills Locus, if the Assasin is innocent, Kleimar kills Strykker. Tomorrow morning we have at leat one scum dead, both if we lynch right. We then lynch whoever is scummier out of Armlx and Locus, and that night if we lynch wrong.

Armlx: we must find the scum out of Assasin/Strykker before moving onto You and Locus. You have not convinced me, nor anyone else (I think), that you are pro town.

Strykker: do the hammer and/or knife involve a nightchoice?

[StrykkerVerde]

wait a second, I just re-read what you said, the hammer doesnt roleblock, it itemblocks. The knife Roleblocks, what are you playing at sir?

[warpdragon]

I mean do you ned to chose who to use it on or just to use it?

[StrykkerVerde]

Yes, the hammer and the knife are both night action items that work just like a roleblocker role would.

Remember:
Knife: Roleblock
Hammer: Itemblock

and just becasue I forgot to do so until now

Vote: Assassin

[armlx]

Assassin is guilty, but the lynch on Locus is better. He claimed Hammer made kills unstoppable early on. Lynch all liers.

Basically.....

TOWN WINS!

And ways, we lynch Locus. Trust me on this. It doesnt matter if I'm wrong, but if I'm right it makes a world of difference.

[CoolBot]

I agree; we should lynch Locus; he's surely scum. Over the night, we can check on Strykker and Assasin.

[StrykkerVerde]

Unvote: Vote: Locus

I have a knife, someone buy a hammer before night and target assassin please. This looks like the town has got this one. Nice try Assassin.

[kleimar]

Oh, kelimer, are you able to use items and recieve a result in the same night?

No, I can see results or use an item not both.

I agree we can lynch Locus today and Assassin tomorrow (if nothing unexpected happens). To prove my own innocence I will reveal the night result we got. That was the fact that armlx is innocent.

I will hold my vote until someone buys the hammer.