Open 209: The Invasion of Liten (Game Over)

[Sniper]

That got things moving a bit.

Unvote

[Furry]

Sniper is officially mega-newb-town

Everyone should unvote him now. Have a midterm tomorrow and quiz thursday so expect a case thursday night at the latest.

[Slaxx]

Sniper is officially mega-newb-town

Everyone should unvote him now

. Have a midterm tomorrow and quiz thursday so expect a case thursday night at the latest.

Mega Newb is a null read either way. Completely calling off a lynch and demanding all votes be taken off seems a little rash.

[Sniper]

Yeah, you should all unvote me like he says!

But, I'm not a newbie to mafia...that part he's wrong about.

But then boosting his score back up to a B- is that he is correct on me being for the Town!

[Furry]

Sniper is officially mega-newb-town

Everyone should unvote him now

. Have a midterm tomorrow and quiz thursday so expect a case thursday night at the latest.

Mega Newb is a null read either way. Completely calling off a lynch and demanding all votes be taken off seems a little rash.

But... he is town

[Slaxx]

That's a pretty sure statement.

[Furry]

But, I'm not a newbie to mafia...that part he's wrong about.

Actually you are a newbie to mafia. Almost every other single site out there is not mafia, its close but its not real mafia. This is one of the best setups in existance because of the lack of PRs

@slaxx - Yes, it is a sure statement. He is town. Seriously.

[Slaxx]

By the way, when you commented on my clear cut A>B I couldn't help but notice your first post only listed two scum and neither one was A>B.

[Furry]

By the way, when you commented on my clear cut A>B I couldn't help but notice your first post only listed two scum and neither one was A>B.

Right, because im catching up. When I have a case I will have A>B(>C) laid out.

[Slaxx]

Okay. I'm satisfied.

Nico, what do you think of this conversation?

SFG, are you okay with reaction tests like my L-1 vote?

SPS and Ardunkel, do you like SFG's move on removing the vote from the wagon?

[Slaxx]

Additional questions:

Max, since you're so rash and not afraid to make quick claims, who would you lynch today if you had to?

Sanhora, are you still alive?

Sniper, you seem to talk like you've played in other more complex setups. Is this a good assumption?

Haylen, throw me a bone and out your thoughts, on like, anything.


Would anyone like to quiz slaxx?

[SFG]

Slaxx: I am okay with reaction testing. I do not think it is conclusive evidence, or even in this case particularly strong evidence, but it is a kind of evidence that can be used in cases and tells.

Also it looks like prod periods of 72 hours instead of 48 are throwing off my estimates a little, but Max and Nik are headed for prods soon (Puli is v/la so she doesn't count).

[Nicodemus]

Quiet quiet nic. Give your opinion on what has gone down.

If a player votes for themselves as town then they are playing against their win condition and should be replaced in my opinion, or modkilled at the mod's discretion. Voting for yourself if you are scum, however, is obviously a viable strategy.

Of course, as I was typing this I just realized that everyone could self-vote, and then everyone who wasn't replaced would be mafia, so maybe this isn't as clear cut as it sounds. I still stand by my read of Sniper playing the VI role as scum though.

My brain is shutting off right now, but my take on the last conversation was that Furry was awful quick to jump to the conclusion that Sniper is town (of course, this was my initial reaction as well, so it doesn't mean much to me). Basically a null-read for Furry, and slight town points for you.

I still think that Sniper is messing with us, as evidenced by his "now that I've got things moving" post.

Also, I really don't see the point of breadcrumbing REACT into your post. Just seems weird. Gut speaking again, as brain is turned off for the night.

[Slaxx]

Id rather have it their then not.

I'd really like for Sniper to answer my question before anymore people comment on it. I wanted Nic's opinion specifically.

[Slaxx]

You would think with my English Scores at the college level being good that I would know the difference between certain words. Obviously not.

"Id rather have it there than not."

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

@slaxx - Yes, it is a sure statement. He is town. Seriously.

Is this a gut read?

SPS and Ardunkel, do you like SFG's move on removing the vote from the wagon?

SFG did post after the fifth vote had been placed without mentioning it, even though I felt it was pretty clear what direction we were heading in, so I'm not sure how genuine her move was.

The move itself is fine and is entirely consistent with her stated opinion on Sniper.

Will post some more later. Need to go.

[Sniper]

Yes, I have played in games where there are additional special roles instead of just all of us against each other, but nobody having any specialized roles.

[SaintKerrigan]

More fingers began pointing at Sniper. Glares accompanied them.

"I'm innocent! Honest!" Sniper protested. "But if you don't believe me, I'll sacrifice myself for the good of Liten."

"Bah, you're crazy," grumbled Nicodemus under his breath.

The I Have to Write a Script Vote Count

(2) Nicodemus: Nikanor, Steam-Powered Shovel
(1) Pulindar: Sanhora

(4) Sniper: Pulindar, Alduskkel, Haylen, Slaxx

(1) SFG: Crypto

Not Voting: Max, Furry, SFG, Nicodemus, Sniper

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: March 11th, 2010 at 8:00 p.m. CST

Regarding Sniper voting himself: I'm going to give him an Official Warning for this. Playing against your win condition is not in keeping with the spirit of the game. Since you are relatively new, I won't modkill/force replace you yet. But please, try to avoid such behavior in the future if you wish to keep playing this game.

Also, I am searching for a replacement for Sanhora. If he manages to return before a replacement is found, he can keep his spot.

[SFG]

SFG did post after the fifth vote had been placed without mentioning it, even though I felt it was pretty clear what direction we were heading in, so I'm not sure how genuine her move was.

Unlike most people, I do not keep vote counts in my head, especially not when I'm passing through between dinner and karate. Then Slaxx specifically noted that Sniper was at L-1 and I freaked out.

[SaintKerrigan]

The Ruleset has been modified.

From Article IV: Capital Offenses

10. Any further offenses committed will result in one of three things: a sterner warning, forced replacement, or a modkill, to be determined at the mod's discretion.

[Max]

There is zero justification to holding onto your vote, being afraid of a quicklynch doesnt count since you should be voting who you want dead at the current point in the game.

Correct, and I shall vote when I want someone dead. So when I want someone dead you'll be first to know... along with everyone else when I vote them.

And @ the other bit
YES, knowing if someone thinks they have found the partner(s) is always good. If scum kill them off it gives us information. If scum

And @whoever it was that asked who I want to lynch...

I want to lynch Alduskkel. I have seen absolutely no accusing of anybody being scum. Not even listing scummy activities, obsesses on other peoples views with never even providing his own people to lynch, the closest to accusing someone of being scum he's been is saying pulindar is buddying which I've seen none of particularly.
I've been attempting to get any feedback from my line of questioning but he's not posted an iota of anything useful to the town. Fillers that make him look as though he's scum hunting but genuinely he isn't particularly doing much of anything.

Vote: Alduskkel

Meaning I'm happy for everyone to lynch him... I'll move or unvote when either I think he's town or someone else is scummier.

[Haylen]

Gut reads: SPS and Adustkel are scum, Sniper is anti-town for self voting.
Nikanor's play is just weird compared to his meta, i dont know what to make of him.
Nico is anti-town for lurking.

[Haylen]

I am sad at the lack of huggles from Furry

[Furry]

@slaxx - Yes, it is a sure statement. He is town. Seriously.

Is this a gut read?

No, im a three shot day cop. He came up town. Max and Crypto came up scum. That means im just a VT now. Lets lynch one of them, will tell you which one of them later.

I am sad at the lack of huggles from Furry

Knew I was forgetting something hun.

*hugglez*

[Max]

No, im a three shot day cop. He came up town. Max and Crypto came up scum. That means im just a VT now. Lets lynch one of them, will tell you which one of them later.

You told me in our mason group that you investigated Alduskkel and found him to be scum there's no need to distance yourself from me the town has always known of our Mason Group