SMITE Role Madness Mafia (OVER AT LAST!)

[mastin2]

/on 122.
Have to leave.

Be back later.

[ooba]

Btw I find this very suspicious. I have 4x more posts than ooba but he's accusing me of being "barely even here" lol??

I check the thread a lot but I tend to restrict my posts by choice. If I went the 'steam of consciousness' route - I would have a lot more posts. 'Barely even here' meaning I can't even remember your pushes - your gambits are lol and there's absolutely no conviction in your scum hunting. I wanted to read FF Mafia again - don't have the time.

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Don't want this day to be another drag out 50 page three week affair to end in a deadline lynch. Let's discuss.

You will not get my vote for the following lynches:
21. Magua iHouse (House and Eyestott), House
8. TiphaineDeath
12. Farside22
13. Solar Wind (F-16_Fighting_Falcon and fferyllt)
14. FourTrouble
18. The Mask
22. vezokpiraka
3. Mastin2 Dcane
24. Xombie

And probably not for these three as well:
6. Beastcharizard
20. T S O
15. Cephrir Mantisdreamz, Flames682

Have had some town markers in past - unsure. Would compromise lynch:
19. Ankamius
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho)
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) VysePresident

Rest:
17. RachMarie
23. Bitmap
4. Skybird BRantz
10. ZZZX
7. TheWayItEnds Aeronaut, -Blonde-
2. Metal Sonic
11. PeregrineV
5. Theaceofspade <-- Preferred

[Cephrir]

Skybird
Imperium

Why is your vote on Skybird then?

Because vanity votes are for the end of the day; pragmatic votes are for the beginning of the day. The other way around just leads to too much bitterness.



(Because I felt like it. It's not like I'll be able to get an Imperium lynch anyway. Even if I push hard, and push hard, right now, and continue to push. Even if I gave it 100%. It's not happening today. Thus, my vote would be little more than just that, a vanity vote.)

:/

[TheWayItEnds]

Mastin,

What are your thoughts about TWIE's entrance?

not mastin but I thought it was really town.

[Heartless]

Have had some town markers in past - unsure. Would compromise lynch:
19. Ankamius
16. Imperium (Tammy and Nacho)
25. Heartless (TellTaleHeart and Antihero) VysePresident

oh lol, that is rich

[Solar Wind]

Mastin,

What are your thoughts about TWIE's entrance?

not mastin but I thought it was really town.

Happy Scumday!

To me, your entrance didn't have the oomph that your replace-in entrances had in our previous games. F-16 agrees based on a cursory look at those games. I've given myself a meta homework assignment, but so far I've only skimmed.

[Solar Wind]

Despite where our vote is, you guys will be dealing with mastin day 1 part 2 only from me, if a serious wagon starts on Imperium.

[TheWayItEnds]

That's fair.

It's because I didn't end up with a major scum read to come out swinging at.

[TheWayItEnds]

Might not matter though because ms keeps threatening me with his very real and not bullshit dayvig.

[Cephrir]

Farside!

Yeah tell me about it I am not even sure who has not posted yet? I need something from everyone before I can start sorting some of the slots out bah

This reads scummy to me.

Nah, we need votes on Ankamius. Even assuming 119 is okay (it's not), there's still been lots of stuff to talk about since the game "start," so the RVS vote, lack of scumhunting, and fluffy commentary is by far the worst, scummiest thing here.

Thought on rach would be lovely.

Xombie: why did you focus only on comments about you? And when you believed ms was faking a read why didn't you vote for him right then?

Vote: rach

From a low level perspective at least, there is continuity here.

Those of you who are already town reading me could you explain WHY?

Bit is actually better at being scum than town. Do not let the VI routine fool you.

Of the 3 votes on me his seems the scummiest. No reasoning giving just a bald vote after two votes have already been cast. It looks like he is going for low hanging fruit.

VOTE: Bit

You are not low hanging fruit.
Why did you focus only on those that voted you?

So here's the first sign of umbrage.

Imp: Why did you not mention this concern of yours sooner?

As for the discussion about xombie, I thought he was a newb to mafia, which was why I felt his reaction was more questionable. Most newbs as far as I have run across are aware of gambits like that.

It occurs to me that I thought this post was weird when I first read it and I noted that in my catchup yet I still don't feel satisfied about it.

Thanks Tammy especially since you often see me as scummy that makes more sense on you and Nacho, so yeah you can go in my likely town pile And that jives with what I know about Nacho who does tend to read me as town generally.


Still want to know from SW (fery and falcon) about why their early town read on me.


Farside I did not say everyone voting me was scum, I was basing my read and vote on the WAY that Bit joined the wagon, and the fact that peeps were brushing him off as town and VI. I have seen him pull some pretty good stunts as scum before and even 3rd party.

I didn't say you thought that.
I asked why you focused only on that that voted for you.

Continuity.

Xombie: why did you focus only on comments about you?

Just trying to keep up.
What do you think of the people asking for summaries and/or not reading at all?

And when you believed ms was faking a read why didn't you vote for him right then?

Idk man, can you type like this:

People are lazy, it's null that players don't want to read and ask for summaries.

Vote: xombie

That response does not awnser my question at all.


I'm also a bit paranoid about vezo. I don't recall him analysising post like he did and I think that his current post is the most town I've ever seen him. I'll put that under paranoid for now.

I think responding to Xombie's flippancy with a vote is town. Were this, say, a calculated attempt to get him to break and act scummy, his response should indicate he's not the type to succumb to pressure easily. Not that I believe most scum players do things like that.

As weird as it sounds I find it scummy he responded to the pt before posting in this thread.
My reason for this may seem odd though.
I had house as a loose town read. The play here reminded me of duck tales mafia.
Changed? Not really. It takes me something odd or flips to change reads on day 1.
I haven't attempted to promote his lynch mostly because no one is really that chatty in the pt.

On first read, I think I liked this for the out of the box reasoning, but in retrospect, I dislike the awareness of it and repetition of the point that it will sound odd.

For some reason I am having trouble caring about this iso.

i get snippy. i'm a snippy person. I felt it was a bit of a reach. Yes plural.

and i been busy. so i haven't posted, hopefully i can fix that.

idk what "you have people talking about AP " but for me it was mostly about 1058. Plus i totally disagree with his reads on farside and MS. And i don't really see how he could have those opinions

Ooba asked the say question. He is not a newb. The wording caught his eye,so your response being primary towards the newb making it read very demeaning towards him.
So you have one post from ap you don't like?
That's it?

Yea I'm not moving my vote.


Ap: I think it was that I didn't make a list. Sometimes I make list, sometimes I don't. I don't really explain town reads unless someone finds them scummy.

I feel like farside was the first person to point out how little sense ace's ap read has made

btw that still doesn't make sense to me and I would like an explanation

Cephrir: what do you think of ace?

Farside doesn't seem to be overflowing with townreads, but the ones she does have, such as myself, are handled properly. She has an issue with ace? Asks a townread for an opinion. That's consistent with the townread being real.

I'm thinking but I still have this itch about spade. Granted rach' vote and reason is God awful and Pere just jumped on without a word makes my skin crawl.
That all said I need original thought coming from spade to switch off.

this is a good post mostly, though it would give me hives if ace flipped scum

Read everything.
Still no original thought from ace so vote still staying.

blah blah consistent stances blah. doesn't back down given attempted appeasement blah.

@ Farside, can you elaborate on your Rach suspicion? You say that she is scum partly for pushing Ace on the neighborhoods plural post that Ace made. But you had pushed him on the same grounds so why does it make Rach scum?

I did notable the same ducking case or reason at all.
It's like you did not even read my case at all

Alright vezo and cephrir, I'll get off my box for now but consider me not happy with rach or her "case"

Vote: ace

actually taking townreads' opinions into account

{towncase on me}

I am mislynchable despite openly having a strong role, so why go to this trouble? Unless you want to argue it intentionally was bad, but it only could have been so from someone aware of my meta which she really isn't

I also explained my rach scum read and I still feel she's not scum hunting or progressing reads.
The case she made was nothing like mine and I'm sick of solar saying it is.

Farside pretty routinely gets upset by the same thing (lacking original thought and not digging in) which I think is town. As opposed to wanting to have all kinds of different flashy reasons to look super proactive.

Overall I think this exercise cooled my townread a bit and furthermore was extremely boring for some reason

[Cephrir]

I am looking for something from TWIE. I have no idea whether it is an accurate or useful meta thing, but I want to check.

[TheWayItEnds]

I almost cant wait.

[PeregrineV]

I almost cant wait.

Happy Scumday to you!!

[Cephrir]

I might not tell you what it is.

[TheWayItEnds]

Doesnt matter.

I'll tell you how useless it is regardless of what conclusion you come too.

[Cephrir]

Oh?

[Imperium]

No. I talked to him in our neighborhood and he is 99% town

I think I speak for both heads of this hydra when I say that if town behavior is not present in the thread, it's not going to count for much.

[Solar Wind]

What of Beast is scummy?

[Imperium]

There won't be any more toxic, personal crap at least from this end of the field.

The neighborhood is also this game.

[Solar Wind]

There was nothing toxic in the neighborhood.

[Imperium]

Okay.

I've literally reported so many of your abusive reports that they've asked me to stop reporting you.

[Solar Wind]

Maybe you could answer my Beast question rather than some bs about toxic, personal crap. Me venting about my frustration to Nacho in a place where it can't affect the game isn't toxic.

[Solar Wind]

I know. Zoraster told me to stop abusing the report function and when I told him it wasn't me, he said "my bad." I'm assuming he mistook you and me.

[Solar Wind]

But you could talk about Beast rather than abuse the report function.

[Solar Wind]

Why is BeastCharizard scum, Tammy?