Mini 1702 - Time Travel Mafia - game over

[guille2015]

Ok, so I guess either iceguy or Klingoncelt has to be scum now, or else scum probably would have quicklynched him by now, right? That vote has been sitting there for 24 hours now, and no quicklynch.

Well, that is the case only if there are three scum partners. And they all need to vote in quick succession.

[Bellaphant]

Or both...they could be vote parking and knowing that a buddy wouldn't hammer.

That thinking seems really paranoid though o.O

P-edit, yeah. 3 scums and an occasional vig? That seems really swingy to me, but far seems to indicate it could happen or that it could be a scum vig.

@far, could hypothetically town get a normally scummy role, like encryption or enabler?

[guille2015]

Yep, you're Scum alright.

Can you please make a case, and in your case can you distinguish what you found scummy on day 2 and then today?

[Yosarian2]

Ok, so I guess either iceguy or Klingoncelt has to be scum now, or else scum probably would have quicklynched him by now, right? That vote has been sitting there for 24 hours now, and no quicklynch.

Well, that is the case only if there are three scum partners. And they all need to vote in quick succession.

If there's not a SK, then there probably are 3 mafia. Town has had a lot of power this game, compared to a normal 12-player game; I'd be surprised if there's less then 3 anti-town roles.

[IceGuy]

More votes on Klingoncelt, please. I've made my case clear and I've caught her in a lie - and that's additional to the fact that she got blocked on N1 and there was only one kill.

Also, claim in the order outlined above.

[farside22]

Vote count:

Klingoncelt (1) iceguy

Not voting:

Everyone else

With 7 alive it take 4 to lynch

[Yosarian2]

Overall, I have a pretty town vibe from Iceguy this game; he's been active, posting a lot, and his play overall looks pretty pro-town. If it does come down to a choice between the two of them, I'm leaning towards voting Klingon over Iceguy.

[Jazzmyn]

Please claim: Jazzmyn -> Bellaphant -> Yosarian2 -> guille2015 -> IceGuy

I was VT.

Updated current claims, therefore,

Klingoncelt - vig (targeted hiplop) (lol)
Yosarian2 -

MISSING

Jazzmyn - Vanilla Townie
Not_Mafia - flip non-flipped players (targeted FA_Q2, received town result)
IceGuy -

MISSING

Bellaphant -

MISSING

guille2015 -

MISSING

should be as above.

Remember this? Where Klingoncelt made a post that only really made sense when her role didn't rotate?

Also, I just noticed something:

In post 102, she backpedals by saying she thinks roles rotate.
In post 201, I post all claims.
In post 224, she calls me scum. If she would actually be a vig, she would've noticed by post 201 that roles can't rotate because there was no vig N1. At that point, her entire justification for voting me becomes moot. She keeps calling me scum, though.

You know what, I've seen enough. I know this might be LyLo, but I'm that confident.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

Hmm. It seems to me that you make some good points here (that I had not noticed or did not think of). I am not prepared to vote yet, though, given that we may very well be in LYLO. I would like to see the rest of the claims first.

Regards,
Jazz

[Klingoncelt]

IceGuy's first post:

VOTE: Bulbazoor

Found scum, 1st page quicklynch now.

We know where that led. Bulb got lynched on PAGE ONE!!!!

Not just IceGuy's first post, but

THE

first post of Day 2:

VOTE: TheDominator37

Obvious choice. Please no quicklynch this time, thanks in advance

Yep, His was the first vote on both wagons.

Now it's possible that IG is just extremely derpTown. Look at this post that caused me to Vig Hiplop:

VOTE: dominator

pushed hard for a obvious mislynch. fuck that

Everyone on that wagon pushed for a stupid mislynch, didn't they?

Who was on Bulb's wagon?

iceguy,

Zakk, Hiplop

, bella, not_mafia,

TheDominator37

Who was off Bulb's wagon?

Bulbazoor, FA_Q2

, guille2015, Jazzmyn,

me (Klingoncelt,)

, Yosarian2/(Persivul)/(Maruchan)


Who was on Dom's wagon?

IG,

Hiplop, and Zakk

were there at first, but then IG jumped off to vote fore me and Dom's wagon picked up not_mafia, and Maruchan.

Then

Zakk

switches to Yosarian2/(Persivul)/(Maruchan)

IceGuy gets back on the Dom wagon.

Zakk

gets back on, and

Dom

hammers himself.

Dominator (6)

Hiplop

, not_mafia, yos, iceguy,

Zakk, Dom

NotMafia and IceGuy were on both wagons.

[Klingoncelt]

IceGuy's startoff vote on Bulbazoor was his only post on Day 1.

His second post was the startoff vote on Dom's wagon.

3rd post, he claims Bulb vote was RVS.

4th post he unvotes Dom, then suddenly claims to have Jailkept Dom Night 1.

Why? What was the point in his unsolicited claim of Town PR?


Ice Guy is Scum.

I'll do some more reads.

[Klingoncelt]

Nevermind the Jailkeeper thing, Guille said he investigated Dom and couldn't get a result...

Owait, Yosarian claims that Maruchan was a Roleblocker on D1... would Town have both a Jailkeeper

and

a Roleblocker? Hmm...

Reads:

Klingoncelt - Town

guille2015 - Seems to be scumhunting. Town.

Yosarian2/(Persivul)/(Maruchan) - Seems to be scumhunting. Town

Jazzmyn - Null

Bellaphant - Derpy... Fairly new to the site. Replaced out any previous games I played with her. Lean Scum

Not_Mafia - Didn't clearly name D1 role, was on both wagons, didn't claim D2 role. Scum

IceGuy - So much Scum

[Klingoncelt]

For the record, this is the derpiest Town I've ever been in.

[Not_Mafia]

I was VT day 1

FA_Q2 was town, my role yesterday was to find that out at daystart today

[Klingoncelt]

I was VT day 1

FA_Q2 was town, my role yesterday was to find that out at daystart today

Does that FA_Q2 role have a name?

[Not_Mafia]

Undercover reporter

[Klingoncelt]

Thank you.

[Klingoncelt]

From Mafia Wiki, Role, Reporter:

Variant 4

A Reporter can be a self-aligned player who wins when all power roles in the game are dead (regardless of their alignment), at which time it leaves the game. To give it a chance of fulfilling such a Win Condition, the Reporter's Night Action is that of a Role Cop, and it can anonymously publish messages at will through the mod.

This incarnation of Reporter is not intended for role madness games, as it does not have a factional kill and thus has no real way of directly killing power roles.

You're 3rd Party?

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Klingoncelt]

Link:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Reporter

[Not_Mafia]

So to recap

You missed both my claims
Went to a wiki page for different role to mine
Picked one self aligned variant of 4, none of which match what my actual role was

And this is all supposed to have come from town?

[Yosarian2]

We've already established that scum today pretty much have to be within (Klingon, IceGuy) and voting outside of that pair makes absolutely no sense, Klingon. Especially based on something like that; this is a theme game, mods can make up their own roles, and there's no reason to assume it's the same as the one on the wiki.

Also, hunting for "third party" is a pretty strong mafia tell, anyway.

I think this is the way to go today.

vote:Klingoncelt

He pretty much has to be scum. Also, if he's not scum, then we've already lost anyway if either Iceguy or Not_Mafia is town.

[Klingoncelt]

You claimed a modified Reporter. I went to Wiki to see if it was a Normal Role. (It is.)

The variation closest to your is for 3rd Parties.

Damn straight it came from Town.

Hey, NotMafia, what do you think of Town having both IceGuy as a Jailkeeper and Maruchan as a Roleblocker on Day1? And Guille was a Cop...

Do you think Town was ridiculously overpowered? I do.

[Klingoncelt]

We've already established that scum today pretty much have to be within (Klingon, IceGuy) and voting outside of that pair makes absolutely no sense, Klingon.

Fine.

VOTE: IceGuy

[guille2015]

We've already established that scum today pretty much have to be within (Klingon, IceGuy) and voting outside of that pair makes absolutely no sense, Klingon.

I'm sorry, but Why is this the case? Did I miss something?

[guille2015]

From Mafia Wiki, Role, Reporter:

Variant 4

A Reporter can be a self-aligned player who wins when all power roles in the game are dead (regardless of their alignment), at which time it leaves the game. To give it a chance of fulfilling such a Win Condition, the Reporter's Night Action is that of a Role Cop, and it can anonymously publish messages at will through the mod.

This incarnation of Reporter is not intended for role madness games, as it does not have a factional kill and thus has no real way of directly killing power roles.

You're 3rd Party?

VOTE: Not_Mafia

This is a very very bad leap to conclusions. NM already countered this, but this role makes no sense for this game, aka anybody with this role would instaloose, and no role will change the alignment of a player as was advertized.

[guille2015]

Undercover reporter

Was that your Role or was that FA_Q's Role?