Mini #355- Starcraft Mafia, Over

[Infested-jerk]

It has been four days since I posted a replacement request, does anyone object to having Max modkilled?

-Addition: After my post in the replacement thread, the only person who would replace in a mini was Oberon, who is unsuitable due to being related to a player (who, if my memory is working right, is Lumos).

-Votecount-
Colonel Kurtz: 1, MBF
Romanus: 0
Rouge_two: 1, Romanus
MikeBurnFire: 1 Anix
Anix: 0
Max: 0
Rosso Carne: 0
Lumos: 1 SpectrumVoid
SpectrumVoid: 5 Patrick, Rosso Carne, Colonel Kurtz, Rogue_two, CrashTextDummie

Seven to lynch.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Would modkilling Max end play, or would we still have a lynch today?

[Rosso Carne]

get him replaced plz, or ill have to ask for replacement for shit moddery.

[mikeburnfire]

Kill him.

...but only if he's scum KTHANX.

[CrashTextDummie]

I agree with Rosso. Modkilling lurkers is completely against the spirit of the game.

[spectrumvoid]

Don't modkill him. Maybe you could ask some other mods to replace temporarily?

Romanus: your reasons please?

[Patrick]

For my part I suspect mainly spectrumvoid for her incredibly scummy line. I also slightly suspect CTD who was one of the players who jumped on the Anix bandwagon without giving a reason. He blends in quite well so i'll be watching him.

[Infested-jerk]

-Notes-
Error in voting fixed (Sorry)

Elias_The_Thief replaces Max.

[Elias_the_thief]

hi guys. im sorry for my predecessors lack of contribution.
i'm still reading but so far my thoughts are this:

1) Thus far there has been so much scummy play that it seemed possible that there were 5 mafia. still undecided as to whom i think is the most scummy.

2) On the issue of Anix, yes I find it annoying that he does not contribute much, but he has been getting more active lately. I agree that he could very well be amazing in the end game, winning the game for his team, and that this is his style of play. But I would like to point out that if he makes it to the endgame, and is scum, it could be game over for town. I think placing trust in him without being able to judge his character is very risky.

[Elias_the_thief]

vote: colonel kurtz[/table]

For the majority of this game you have lurked and not contributed much.
whenever you make an appearance, you immediately start pointing fingers at various people without much reasoning. It seems scummy to me.

[Elias_the_thief]

by the way, im actually most suspicious of spectrum. but i don't want to put him that close to lynch without hearing some more from him.

[spectrumvoid]

HI Elias!

Elias, you're most suspicious of me but you vote Kurtz? Hm...

I have backed off from the issue of Anix since he started to talk.

What do you think of lumos?

[Romanus]

Romanus: your reasons please?

Are you trying to deflect attention to me. I told you I had time constraints. I mean, really, look how much I have posted and how much I do post.

Now, doing a reread of the last few pages my gut no longer says Rogue Two. There are a few people that I want to hear from. I could go a number of ways right now. Also, I want Elias to have a chance to get into the flow.

UNVOTE

[Patrick]

so elias and spectrumvoid are scumbuddies it seems Elias says he finds spectrum the most suspicious but then votes Kurtz instead.

[spectrumvoid]

by the way, im actually most suspicious of spectrum. but i don't want to put him that close to lynch without hearing some more from him.

I guess that's his reason... I'd like to hear more from him though.

Romanus, the reason why I specifically asked you about the vote on Rogue was because it didn't seem to make sense. There was no discussion about him prior to your post, and your reason was gut feel.

[Patrick]

The reason is ok, but it feels strange that he would then go and vote someone else instead.

[Colonel Kurtz]

It is strange, but I would assume that he's probably just trying to just apply pressure to someone else that he thinks is scummy, even if he's dead wrong. (oh no, not another vote, anything but that!)

[Romanus]

At this point, I would be happy with a spectrumvoid or Kurtz lynch. This day has gone on for a while, but we haven't heard much from Elias/max. The Elias comment/vote does reek of scumminess, but he could also just be legitimately afraid of lynching someone. I want to hear Elias answer for this, as it appears others do as well.

So FOS Elias.

[Elias_the_thief]

ok. in response to your post romanus, in which you say that you havent heard much from me/max, i dont think ive had much of an opportunity. so far ive posted both days since ive joined the game.
anywho, my reason for voting kurtz is exactly as stated. i suspect spectrum a lot, but i dont want to put him so close to being lynched without more chance to judge his character. not only that, but obviously if i were to suddenly come into the game and jump on the bandwagon on my first post, wouldnt you find that scummy. im kind of surprised to be suspected because i made a nonscummy play. and its not as if i dont suspect kurtz as well. his lurking, then popping up and posting erratically, then lurking again, is a real scumtell.

[CrashTextDummie]

Elias, are you saying that you're not voting for spectrumvoid because you fear that the town might find that scummy? Such reluctance always makes me feel uneasy, because it could very well be coming from a scum who doesn't want to join a bad bandwagon late. Or a scum who doesn't want to throw his partner under the bus unless absolutely necessary.

And I'll repeat myself here, but Kurtz is not a good lynch today. Voting for him is therefore not a good idea. Please read more carefully.

Oh, and Patrick, I thought it was obvious:
I voted for AniX to get him to talk. He talked, so mission accomplished.

[Elias_the_thief]

did you actually read my post? i said that i voted the way i did to make sure that he got a chance to talk before anyone lynched. i mentioned as an afterthought, that voting for him would be a scummy play. i only said this becuase everyone seemed suspicious of me for not voting him. i was simply pointing out that what i did was inherantly not a scummy play.

[Romanus]

Elias, I am not blaming you for anything, just want to make sure you keep contributing, which you are, so, no problems here.

[spectrumvoid]

After some thought, I think it's protownish that Elias didn't vote for me. After all, he'll be accused of bandwagoning tomorrow if I'm lynched today. And quick-lynching is scummy behaviour.

CTD: Care to explain why lynching Kurtz isn't a good idea today?

Lumos? Earth to Lumos?

[Patrick]

CTD: Care to explain why lynching Kurtz isn't a good idea today?

I agree with CTD about this, and I don't think it should be revealed.

Just a thought I had, should we get a full role claim out of Romanus? I can't think of a drawback because if he is town, he is already a prime NK target anyway. So maybe we should try and confirm him by having his exact role? I'm not fishing but just wondering if this is a good idea. If there's some reason not to, then Romanus is it possible that you will be able to confirm yourself tomorrow?

[rogue_two]

I disagree with Romanus' FoS of Elias, or at least his reasons for it. I would also be somewhat hesitant to put a player one vote away from a lynch with my first post after replacing into a game. I'm also happy with a spectrumvoid lynch today, because I still cannot wrap my brain around the thought process that could have led a townie to make the massively scummy posts she's made today. Therefore, I'll be keeping my vote where it is unless something significant changes.

I don't think a claim from Romanus is necessary at this point. Claiming for the sake of claiming only helps scum find the power roles, and the town wouldn't really benefit from the information at this point. Today isn't the right time to turn our attention back to Romanus, IMHO.

Looking at the last vote count, AniX's style of not posting for days or weeks at a time is starting to bug me again. Why is it that your vote is still sitting on MBF? What about spectrumvoid? What about Lumos, for that matter? I don't like the thought of having you sit back and observe and let everyone else do all the talking and all the lynching. I'd like to hear the reasons for your vote, and I really hope you won't make the town put you 2 votes away from a lynch again before you talk.