Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Riddick]

thanks neto.

Funnily enough, I thought I saw Cop tells coming from Riddick. Just more examples of how I can not read peoples' roles for the life of me. But, hmmm. Riddick, why were you pushing so hard for a massclaim?

re: this. I felt there could be useful information out there that would have helped the town lynch correctly. Maybe another info role or something idk. Turns out we had masons and vig so meh. It also removes any 'lol i have guilty in mylo' thing from gambiting scum.

gonna read riken's interactions with mole and kison and nacho too I guess when I can/site isn't so slow and i'm not so tired.

[Ythan]

Guess we have another confirmed townie and scum is one or two separate players out of four.

[Riddick]

yeah. but we really need to lynch scum today.

[Nachomamma8]

If you want to do that, then lynch mole! He softly defended Rik while also pushing hard for Diacria. He also asked for the Rik case at least twice with promises to look at it (take a guess if this promise was ever fulfilled...).

[molestargazer]

If you want to do that, then lynch mole! He softly defended Rik while also pushing hard for Diacria. He also asked for the Rik case at least twice with promises to look at it (take a guess if this promise was ever fulfilled...).

That's right, it never was, no-one gave me any clue of where it was so I could go and look at it.

I pushed hard for DS / Diacria because I believed he was scum, I had a strong case on DS.

[molestargazer]

I'm also loving the WIFOM from this, Nacho.

[Nachomamma8]

Like you couldn't go back and look at it yourself... I thought you DIDN'T need to be babied...?

As for your point on WIFOM... What? Oh, so because you suspect me I can't view you as scum? I mean, I could see if you actually brought up a case on me and I was responding with "ohey, mole's scum", but you have to warp reality quite a bit to get to that point.

[molestargazer]

Like you couldn't go back and look at it yourself... I thought you DIDN'T need to be babied...?

As for your point on WIFOM... What? Oh, so because you suspect me I can't view you as scum? I mean, I could see if you actually brought up a case on me and I was responding with "ohey, mole's scum", but you have to warp reality quite a bit to get to that point.

1. Nah, I'd much rather I was. Call it laziness if you like.
I looked back and couldn't see anything - hence why I asked.

2. Quite a coincidence you're gunning for me right after I labelled you as the last scum though.

[Ythan]

Nacho, can you show that you were attacking mole before he called you scum?

[Nachomamma8]

That's not what you said, mole.

I never really found the Rik case yesterday, but (eww promised content) tonight I should get time to read back over it a little and find out the case - if anyone wishes to direct me, that'd be swell, but I'm not relying on "being babied".

@Ythan: No, because I wasn't.

[molestargazer]

But it is what I said here and here. I also admitted to not looking at the case here, and mentioning AGAIN how I hadn't seen one.
I guess the promised content didn't happen, I was lazy, that's nothing new. Want me to fetch a rope? I don't know how to tie a noose though, so you'll have to help me on that.

[Kison]

Aside from everything I've said about mole before now, one additional reason I think he's more likely scum than Riddick & Nacho is because he wasn't on the wagon at the end of yesterday. Yeah, it's possible he just wasn't around, but with as close of a call as we had with deadline not being noticed till a day before it hit I could see scum wanting to sit back and watch the clock strike 12 without doing anything. I guess a better way of putting it is that I think the other two are less likely to be mafia because they

were

on the wagon.

I'm noting that Riddick's vote was on Rikenslope well before anyone else had voted. If he is mafia he'd have to have known he was dealing with at least one other killer in the game at the time. I think it's unlikely he'd try pulling a bus like that. Could still be the serial killer, since it looks like we're dealing with one as per Ythan's claim.

mole - Aside from process of elimination, do you have any other reason for thinking nacho is scum?

[Riddick]

Hmm. I'm reading back and Kison and mole weren't suspicious of Riken. Kison does go as far as to call her town, so yeah. I'm unsure.

I think if there's 2 mafia left they'd be very inclined to protect each other, especially with the numbers left and the fact riken was on the ropes for a few days.

[molestargazer]

mole - Aside from process of elimination, do you have any other reason for thinking nacho is scum?

Nope.

[Kison]

Hmm. I'm reading back and Kison and mole weren't suspicious of Riken. Kison does go as far as to call her town, so yeah. I'm unsure.

I don't recall saying Rikenslope was town. In my PBPA I said that I thought there were several people who would make better lynches, and this was before anyone was serious about going after him. I found the case against him lacking up until Lowell made a good point about his behavior post-claim, but that in itself wasn't a very compelling reason to go after him over Dia/mole.

If I was scum with Rikenslope then I wouldn't have bothered pointing out the looming deadline, which nobody else noticed. I would have happily watched it pass. You can call that WIFOM, but it's really not due to the tremendous harm it would do to my ability to win under that scenario.

[Riddick]

That's a very good point actually.

[Nachomamma8]

Would it have been really that hard to go through the votecounts, find where Riken had a lot of votes on him, and click the little post button? Oh wait, you didn't think of that. You also didn't think of ISOing Riken and checking around where he made his claim... You also didn't think of ISOing Riken and doing the work yourself...?

Also, you've failed to comment on my accusation of you of softly defending Rik...

[molestargazer]

I've failed to comment on it because it's a load of rubbish. I only said I hadn't seen the case, which I hadn't.

Would it have been really that hard to go through the votecounts, find where Riken had a lot of votes on him, and click the little post button? Oh wait, you didn't think of that. You also didn't think of ISOing Riken and checking around where he made his claim... You also didn't think of ISOing Riken and doing the work yourself...?

I did think of at least the last idea. But I was too lazy to put the work in. I admit that.

[Nachomamma8]

To everyone not voting Rike: If we no lynch then every one of you will die before anyone on the wagon.

This alone put me off reading back for a Rike case. Just sayin'.

Stuff like this sounds to soft-defending to me, why doesn't it sound like soft-defending to you...?

But I was too lazy to put the work in. I admit that.

And I see you are still to lazy to make up a case on someone else/defend yourself. On the off chance you're town and still behaving like this, you're going to make us lose. You realize that, right? So, step it up. In the more likely case you're scum, keep it up. Just remember to give us the name of your buddy before you go down, kay?

[molestargazer]

And I see you are still to lazy to make up a case on someone else/defend yourself.

I am defending myself, I'm saying the truth. What else is it, a ferrari?

Stuff like this sounds to soft-defending to me, why doesn't it sound like soft-defending to you...?

I disliked Ythan's arrogance in that post.

[molestargazer]

But yes, I am still lazy. It's exam season, and after I've been at work today and doing college work all week, I am in no mood to go searching through a shitton of posts.

I didn't really foresee the game lasting this long / me surviving this long.

I'm not going to promise meaningful content like I provided earlier in the game, since I may end up not delivering and putting myself even lower in everyone's... list. (What's the word?)
I will admit this case is giving me a kick up the arse to be more motivated. We'll see.

[Riddick]

post to avoid prod for the most part. going bed now as it's 1 am here.

[Ythan]

Kinda dead.

[Nachomamma8]

It's more boring waiting for the mole than I thought it would be.

[Netopalis]

Prodding: Molestargazer, Kison, Nhammen