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[Ectomancer]

What do you think about ThAdmiral?

Keep playing. You'll find out eventually. Are you wondering which way you need to lean to maintain your balancing act?

[Cephrir]

Well, I know how Ecto's going to play now.

[Ectomancer]

Well, I know how Ecto's going to play now.

Not necessarily. I felt that he was looking for the answer in order to decide how he was going to play.

I'll bend a bit though. What I think of ThAdmiral is that he was Yvonne's target for singular focus.

[Cephrir]

I wouldn't call that bending, but sure.

[Snix]

Read: "You're not doing much to get out of it... because you called me scum."

I could go for an Xtoxm lynch, but would still prefer ThAdmiral. Never did think Yvonne was scum, still don't.

What do you have against ThAdmiral? It's mostly just a gut feeling right?

[Cephrir]

257. What don't you have against ThAdmiral? Why have you hardly mentioned him at all?

[Snix]

257 is you disagreeing with an opinion on lengthy posts and the fact that he wants to live. And a gut feeling. Not much to go on.

I don't talk about him because he hasn't done anything worth noting. He's defended what little reasons Yvonne gave and didn't overreact to it.

[ThAdmiral]

Ecto sounds logical and well spoken.

Which is a breath of fresh air in this game.

unvote

257. What don't you have against ThAdmiral? Why have you hardly mentioned him at all?

Posts like this are stupid and I'm getting sick of them.

[klebian]

Vote Count

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Xtoxm- 3 (Neko2086, Scigatt, Ectomancer)
Ectomancer- 3 (Snix, Xtoxm, Jamesthephox)
ThAdmiral- 2 (Cephrir, Near)
Near- 1 (Jester)

Not voting (3): DizzyIzzyB13, ThAdmiral, Marmalade

7 to lynch.

Deadline: April 26th

Jamesthephox and jester will be prodded in about 48 hours if they do not post.

[Marmalade]

Why are people voting Ecto?
Why are people voting ThAdmiral?

On more pressing matters:

vote: Near

. I'm fed up of him, particularly after his last contribution. Try harder, pls.

[ThAdmiral]

ecto is yvonne's replacement and I assume votes carry over.

As to your second question I can't help you there...

[DizzyIzzyB13]

vote: Ectomancer

. His play since replacing Yvonne has done nothing to allay the suspicions that Yvonne developed, and I feel he's had adequate opportunity to give me a better impression. He hasn't.

[Ectomancer]

I read you Dizzy.

I'd like you to explain yourself.

At the beginning of the game, you mentioned the Cop, and the idea that a lucky one might push for a lynch and look scummy.

Something that doesn't seem to have been discussed regarding the people who have pushed for others to be lynched - is it not possible that one of the is the cop? As there is no Doc, the Cop isn't going to make a roleclaim this soon, and the Cop was able to investigate someone on Night Zero, meaning that, should they have taken advantage of this, they could very well know that someone is Mafia if they scored lucky, and given they want to protect their role, may be coming off as scummy. Just something we shoudl consider, I think.

You then try to appear helpful with the "I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake" line. How about you let the Cop do their job and you quit hunting them?

Well, I certainly don't think we should be actively seeking the Cop... just being mindful of the possibilities. I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake, wouldn't you?

After all of this, it is very interesting then, that you are choosing to go after the player who had a singular, mostly unexplained focus. Isn't that what you warned us to watch out for? That maybe that person could be the Cop? Why then are you ignoring your own advice and voting for the role that fit your previous profile?

fos

Inconsistent play by our DizzyIzzy.

[Cephrir]

Dizzy- Um... I don't agree, he absoltuely has. Like, he's stopped rampaging after ThAdmiral.

Ecto- Alright, if you're going to point it out yourself... that's actually quite helpful. Thank you. Now I don't have to think about it anymore.

FoS: Dizzy

, by the way.

[Scigatt]

I read you Dizzy.

I'd like you to explain yourself.

At the beginning of the game, you mentioned the Cop, and the idea that a lucky one might push for a lynch and look scummy.

Something that doesn't seem to have been discussed regarding the people who have pushed for others to be lynched - is it not possible that one of the is the cop? As there is no Doc, the Cop isn't going to make a roleclaim this soon, and the Cop was able to investigate someone on Night Zero, meaning that, should they have taken advantage of this, they could very well know that someone is Mafia if they scored lucky, and given they want to protect their role, may be coming off as scummy. Just something we shoudl consider, I think.

I wouldn't ahve taken that gamble...bout ok.

You then try to appear helpful with the "I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake" line. How about you let the Cop do their job and you quit hunting them?

Well, I certainly don't think we should be actively seeking the Cop... just being mindful of the possibilities. I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake, wouldn't you?

After all of this, it is very interesting then, that you are choosing to go after the player who had a singular, mostly unexplained focus. Isn't that what you warned us to watch out for? That maybe that person could be the Cop? Why then are you ignoring your own advice and voting for the role that fit your previous profile?

fos

Inconsistent play by our DizzyIzzy.

[Scigatt]

I don't agree with that gamble...but okay.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

I read you Dizzy.

I'd like you to explain yourself.

At the beginning of the game, you mentioned the Cop, and the idea that a lucky one might push for a lynch and look scummy.

Something that doesn't seem to have been discussed regarding the people who have pushed for others to be lynched - is it not possible that one of the is the cop? As there is no Doc, the Cop isn't going to make a roleclaim this soon, and the Cop was able to investigate someone on Night Zero, meaning that, should they have taken advantage of this, they could very well know that someone is Mafia if they scored lucky, and given they want to protect their role, may be coming off as scummy. Just something we shoudl consider, I think.

You then try to appear helpful with the "I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake" line. How about you let the Cop do their job and you quit hunting them?

Well, I certainly don't think we should be actively seeking the Cop... just being mindful of the possibilities. I'd hate to lynch a cop by mistake, wouldn't you?

After all of this, it is very interesting then, that you are choosing to go after the player who had a singular, mostly unexplained focus. Isn't that what you warned us to watch out for? That maybe that person could be the Cop? Why then are you ignoring your own advice and voting for the role that fit your previous profile?

fos

Inconsistent play by our DizzyIzzy.

Is that a claim?

Yvonne's behaviour didn't appear to be consistent with what I said - despite what was being said about her, she never once tried to change strategy from doing nothing but saying "Vote for ThAdmiral" to attempting to convice people it was the right move. If she had definite knowledge he was scum, I'd expect a change of strategy when she realised hers wasn't working. That didn't happen.

That, or since I've been posting whilst ill for the past week and a half, I completely forgot which game was which and had no idea of the which set-up I was posting about. Your choice, but I prefer the other explanation, personally.

[Ectomancer]

Of course it isn't a claim. It is an accusation against you of sniffing around a cop claim early, and then your persistent pursuit of a player that fit that profile. I'll let others decide whether "Yvonne's behavior was consistent with what you said", but for me, your attempt to say it wasn't is rather feeble.
This:

If she had definite knowledge he was scum, I'd expect a change of strategy when she realised hers wasn't working. That didn't happen.

ignores your earlier statement here:

they could very well know that someone is Mafia if they scored lucky, and given they want to protect their role, may be coming off as scummy. Just something we shoudl consider, I think.

And then asking me if I am claiming...

As I stated, I think Yvonne was going after the singular focus attack to generate material. It works well in that regard, especially if you can lure out a cop hunter like yourself. If you want, I can find the link to my mini where I all but claimed cop, and got a claim of cop out of scum with a guilty on me. I just smiled as I explained I wouldnt be counterclaiming, but that the real cop now knew for certain that he was scum.

I still think xtoxm is a good lynch, but you are looking like a good one too Dizzy. Your explanation falls short.

[ThAdmiral]

vote: Ectomancer

. His play since replacing Yvonne has done nothing to allay the suspicions that Yvonne developed, and I feel he's had adequate opportunity to give me a better impression. He hasn't.

This is just wrong.

Is that a claim?

Yvonne's behaviour didn't appear to be consistent with what I said - despite what was being said about her, she never once tried to change strategy from doing nothing but saying "Vote for ThAdmiral" to attempting to convice people it was the right move. If she had definite knowledge he was scum, I'd expect a change of strategy when she realised hers wasn't working. That didn't happen.

That, or since I've been posting whilst ill for the past week and a half, I completely forgot which game was which and had no idea of the which set-up I was posting about. Your choice, but I prefer the other explanation, personally.

This is both

wishy-washy

, and

fishy

.

I don't agree with that gamble...but okay.

And I don't understand what this means. Can you elaborate on this?

[Marmalade]

I should be writing my essay, but oh well.

---

I have some questions for people:

1.

Cephrir, why are you still voting for ThAdmiral?

2.

Snix and Xtoxm, why are you still voting Ectomancer?

3.

Near, where are you, and where is your analysis?

4.

Scigatt, can you expand on your recent post?

5.

Neko, what do you think of Ectomancer?

--

This should clear some stuff up.

Also, I think I am going to re-read Scigatt and DizzyIzzy, since they've been worrying me the most recently. I'm far more confident about Ectomancer after his replies, which have been striking me as far more town than Yvonne's.

[Scigatt]

4.

Scigatt, can you expand on your recent post?

I just didn't agree with with the way Ectomancer handled Dizzy. That's all.

[Ectomancer]

4.

Scigatt, can you expand on your recent post?

I just didn't agree with with the way Ectomancer handled Dizzy. That's all.

fos

Ectomancer for being too aggressive.

[Snix]

2.

Snix and Xtoxm, why are you still voting Ectomancer?

Just because the replacement is smarter scum than the replaced doesn't mean he still isn't scum. And his posts really throw me off, but that's probably more of a personal thing. I'd also like to point out, although this could just be coincidence, that the Yvonne(ectomancer), Neko, Scigatt trio seems to all have jumped on Xtoxm.

[Snix]

EBWOP

everything below the question is my response. Must have typed in the quote tags.

[neko2086]

We all jumped on xtoxm because he is the scummiest person here. That, or people just want to join the most justified wagon. Details to follow.

What do I think of ecto? I think he's much more level-headed than Yvonne. Unfortunately for him, Yvonne's actions will have to count as a strike against him, but since there's nothing he can do about her actions, we can't just base a lynch off of that. Yvonne left questions unanswered, and Ecto can't answer them. What we

can

do is hold him accountable for his own actions, which, so far, seem fairly legit.

What I do want to know, though, is if he has finished rereading the whole thing, not just the last few pages, and if his decision will change. He may have joined the xtoxm wagon because xtoxm just happened to have said one of the most recent scummy things, and ecto had only read back a few pages.