Mini 985:Madness at Night: Game over

[charter]

Alamaster's "give SSBF a night" I think is an acceptable plan. Largely because I find Llama so suspicious that it eliminates the issue of lynching someone not as scummy. I don't really care which of those two we lynch today.

Except for the fact that most people found it un-scummy. Once this was evident, I would find it more likely that you would counterclaim a miller instead of a cop. I will explain this farther down.

I'm not going to think something just because everyone else does. I think claiming miller is scummy (since there's way more benefit to claiming it as scum than town). Everyone else not thinking his claim is scummy doesn't have much bearing on what I think. Plus, I find his play pretty suspect as well.

1.If you are absolutely sure of yourself that someone is scum, which in this case you are, then wouldn't you want to lynch scum? Unless of course you don't want the town to get in an uproar, that you are mislynching a townie?

2. Even after I call you out on it, you still don't vote.

1) I don't understand. You're taking my lack of an immediate vote as proof that I don't want to lynch SSBF, which isn't true at all.

2) Even after you called me out on it, I still had no idea what the votecount was.

Now I am more fishy of the SSBF claim, mostly because I am bias, but Charter is really spitting out scum tells. I am just not sure of what to do at this moment.

How am I "spitting out scum tells"?

Still have no idea what the votecount is. Last one had Llama at more votes than SSBF.

MOD, can we get a votecount, please?

[hiphop]

You call that a defense? Heck, I unvoted him before you posted that.

[hiphop]

I think claiming miller is scummy (since there's way more benefit to claiming it as scum than town). Everyone else not thinking his claim is scummy doesn't have much bearing on what I think. Plus, I find his play pretty suspect as well.

Nopo is at L-4. Vote with me.

[hiphop]

You call that a defense? Heck, I unvoted him before you posted that.

directed at nopo.

[hiphop]

Alamaster's "give SSBF a night" I think is an acceptable plan. Largely because I find Llama so suspicious that it eliminates the issue of lynching someone not as scummy. I don't really care which of those two we lynch today.

Which 2 are you talking about?

[crypto]

@Cryto: The moment someone call your name you wag your tail and come out huh? And I didn't say you were lurking the entire game but I'm most uneasy with your bluff and contentless posts. Right now I don't have an obvious scum candidate like many of our "professional" scum hunters do, so I'm actually not willing to lynch anyone. But your over-defensive posts is noted.

You are just phenomenally blind. I WAS OUT WASHING DENTAL INSTRUMENTS IN HONDURAS FOR TEN DAYS. I DID NOT HAVE COMPUTER ACCESS. THAT MEANS I WAS V/LA. I WAS NOT LURKING. I DID NOT COME OUT WHEN YOU CALLED MY NAME. I CAME OUT WHEN I RETURNED FROM THE FANTASTIC LAND OF V/LA.

[nopointinactingup]

I think claiming miller is scummy (since there's way more benefit to claiming it as scum than town). Everyone else not thinking his claim is scummy doesn't have much bearing on what I think. Plus, I find his play pretty suspect as well.

Nopo is at L-4. Vote with me.

Sure,

Vote:Nopointinactingup

[Hayker]

Vote count

Llamaeatataco 3-(AlmasterGM, charter, Super Smash Bros. Fan)

Super Smash Bros. Fan 2-(SpyreX, Sando)

nopointinactingup 3-(crypto, hiphop, nopointinactingup)

Sando 2-(podium123456, llamaeatataco)

SpyreX 1-(Wickedestjr)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch

[Sando]

Ok wait, only advantage of leaving SSBF alive is if he's town. Town cop will at minimum have cleared someone if we lynch them tomorrow. But I'm at least of the opinion not that if SSBF is scum that so is Nopo, but that SSBF and Nopo are both the same alignment. On that thinking, if we lynch SSBF in worst case we get a 'confirmed' townie in Nopo, without any real risk. And if SSBF turns scum, we get 2 scum.

Do you guys disagree with the statement that SSBF and Nopo are the same alignment? I agree that if SSBF is scum, so is Nopo and vice-versa, but I also think that if SSBF is town, so is Nopo. In this case, SSBF is a better choice in logical terms, plus I think he's scummier.

[Sando]

BTW, I work in insurance in Aus, which has a financial year ending 30 June, so yeah, I'm super busy at work and can't post as often for the next few days. And yes, the Wall-O-Texts are breaking me at the moment.

[charter]

I think claiming miller is scummy (since there's way more benefit to claiming it as scum than town). Everyone else not thinking his claim is scummy doesn't have much bearing on what I think. Plus, I find his play pretty suspect as well.

Nopo is at L-4. Vote with me.

Yeah, his claim, his play, and now his self vote. Anyone not voting him at this point is just making excuses.

unvote, vote Nopoint

Alamaster's "give SSBF a night" I think is an acceptable plan. Largely because I find Llama so suspicious that it eliminates the issue of lynching someone not as scummy. I don't really care which of those two we lynch today.

Which 2 are you talking about?

I was talking about SSBF and Llama.

[nopointinactingup]

(= I can't believe you still want to lynch me if you are gun smith. It's like "yeah I can find out for sure if he's scum or not tomorrow, but I don't need no confirmation for the town so just lynch him".

This town is hopeless, I don't oppose to being out of it.

[charter]

Yeah, now I don't have to waste my investigation on you.

[nopointinactingup]

You NEED to know who I am. That information is INVALUABLE to the town. The fact that these dubheads are pushing for my lynch ( which would result in nothing but -1 townie .. ) clearly indicate they are either scums, or "professional scumhunters" who cannot find any reasonable lynch and resorted in the "follow me and lynch the claimed miller" to make themselves look protown.

[charter]

You're voting yourself. You have no room to call out others for voting you.

[nopointinactingup]

I voted myself because I find hiphop and crypto's arguments hilarous and I was confident no one would follow such insensibility. I never thought that a rational gunsmith would be supporting my lynch (=

[charter]

I support lynches on all self voters (barring those situations where self voting is a good idea).

[nopointinactingup]

Then I guess it's no use talking to a wall.
Claimed Cop, Claimed Gunsmith, Lynch Miller on Day1, ahh what could be better. The scums are practically laughing by now.

[charter]

There's a whole lot more reason to lynch you other than your claim.

[crypto]

Okey, lynch.

[podium123456]

not so sure about this lynching nopoint stuff. for one, he is pushing to not get lynched and be investigated... which is in his favor. if he was scum, and knew he was going to be investigated if he isnt lynched, the best move for him would be to get lynched... it would serve to confuse town.

if he's dirty, we will know tomorrow. why not let charter investigate? dont get me wrong, i am still susp. of nopoint and i really didnt like his vote on crypto... but why not just let charter investigate?

[crypto]

If charter investigates nopointinactingup then he'll flip guilty, so it's a waste of time.

[crypto]

HURRF. I misread. That's actually a good idea.

Unvote.

[crypto]

Vote: AlmasterGM.

I'm going to stick my head in a toilet.

[SpyreX]

Sigh. When this is, again, an issue tomorrow there's going to be a slew of I told you so's.

Further, when SSBF is, in fact, lying there is going to be even more I told you so's.

Unvote, Vote: Llama