Mini 1617 - Mafia with a Twist 2 (It's Over!)

[Klazam]

hmph

[Save The Dragons]

HI is likely scum imo.

I can't really tell with you.

Your idea of town is to play suboptimally?

[ika]

-.-

know what, just nvm. if i try to explain it, its going to be more confusing.

im getting ready for work

pedit: my idea of playing town is to break a game in half

[Save The Dragons]

Arrgggggggggg

[Thesp]

Official Vote Count

Save The Dragons

(4): Untrod Tripod, xRECKONERx, Hostile Intent, ika

Hostile Intent

(3): MTD, Feirei, Save The Dragons

ika

(3): Mathdino, mathcam, Klazam

Honey bee

(1): Natirasha

Mathdino

(1): Honey bee

Natirasha

(1): Wolfy

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2014-10-27 10:00:00)

[Save The Dragons]

If you seriously think I didn't tear ika's argument apart then just lynch me now.

(sorry man, saying it's confusing is a copout. Congrats you were getting town points but you are still null and I'm still on the fence about you).

[ika]

If you seriously think I didn't tear ika's argument apart then just lynch me now.

(sorry man, saying it's confusing is a copout. Congrats you were getting town points but you are still null and I'm still on the fence about you).

really its all guts, theres no better way to expalin it. thats how i work day 1.

unless if i have extra info (PR, mason, IC) i just rely on gut instincts.

lets ignore the case/vote things for now and do something different:

whats your read on dino and why?

[Save The Dragons]

That's fine, my problem is you said you already stated your case but I think this is the first time you're attributing your read to gut. (Though if you had said that I still would have pestered you).

on a related note:
Reck why am I scum? Anything other than weirded out because I called you town?

neway like I said I think he's town. I think his issues with you aren't unwarranted, I think he's actually considering whether or not I'm scum as opposed to scum on me who have made their choice. I think he's providing good content.

I mean he could be scum trying to buddy me because he knows I'm not scum when he starts talking about how people's cases on me suck, but I'm caught in the middle of that so it seems to me that this is unlikely.

Therefore, mathdino is most likely town.

[xRECKONERx]

Did I ever call you scum?

[ika]

offtopic: know what we need to do, we need to hydra. would you be game?

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if you learn one thing, its not to pester me in game, unless im scum, as scum i will more likly then not be immune to it. as town i get irritated real fast.

on the case: just about every game i have played where im town, my cases are shit. so its an easy discredit and easy way to counterwagon me. rarely do i ever go full blown out on cases

ok, if hes town, whos the scum in my wagon (if any)?

pedit: your voting him? (yes im not STD but i had to answer it)

[xRECKONERx]

does friend/foe work in mafia games

[ika]

does friend/foe work in mafia games

wut?

but seriosuly reck can you answer his question: are you scum?

[Save The Dragons]

Oh my god, STD

is

scum!

Quite literally...

[Klazam]

I doubt it. never used the feature before though.

[Save The Dragons]

like...literally...said the words...

townread over.

[Save The Dragons]

(not because you said I was scum and forgot, but asking me if you ever called me scum just rubs me the wrong way)

[xRECKONERx]

Congratulations, you passed the quiz.

[xRECKONERx]

It's not a particularly strong townread, it's more of just...you don't feel the same in the first page of this game as the way I've felt about you being town in other games?

[mathcam]

For the record, my feelings towards ika are not purely policy-based, though I admit it plays a role. The self-meta in the last post alone is enough to raise an eyebrow. Usually as people get increasingly frustrated, I find myself starting to sympathize with their plight and finding them more town. I'm not feeling that at all here. In any case, this isn't a policy lynch out of some abstract mafia principle (lynch all liars, lynch third voters on a wagon, lynch all lurkers, etc, etc.) but rather a tangible possibility that having ika could reduce our winning chances.

ika, can you back up any of your self-meta? Any links to games with you as scum? (I know people have referenced these, but I don't remember any specific links/titles).

[ika]

One moment I'm getting ready for work

[ika]

But last twist game I was scum so that's a strt I'm on ipod

[Save The Dragons]

ok, if hes town, whos the scum in my wagon (if any)?

The votes for you are probably incorrect but still justified; if there's scum, maybe mathcam but I'll have to see more on him. I can see both mathcam and Klazam wanting to PL you.

(also if the hydra comment was to me, ask me again in a month or two if you're still interested)

pedit: you mean scumread

pedit2: yeah if mathcam's scum I'm not going to catch him from his vote on ika (if I can catch him at all).

[Save The Dragons]

psst mathcam http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=58660

[xRECKONERx]

Yes, scumread.

Just got married, am tired, drinking coffee at 4:45PM.

[Mathdino]

mathcam, check this out.

I was just about to comment on the self meta. ika, you've still answered none of the questions that Klazam and I have asked you, and that's a major part of our case on you. That was the other thing I was going for when I asked you to give us a reason not to lynch you. More thoughts coming in a sec, just thought y'all'd want to see that link.