millar13 wrote:I've contributed nothing? Wow....your opinion is so useless
Yes, nothing. Shall I do a post-by-post? Sorry for wall-of-text in advance.
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millar13 wrote:confirm vodka bitches
Nothing here, just confirming.
millar13 wrote:I never got a role pm, and my PROD was the first notification from the mod....so soz
A bullshit excuse. How did you confirm into the game without reading your role PM?
millar13 wrote:EBWOP
OH wait it did
Oh wait, the story doesn't add up? Ha ha, better EBWOP your way out of it.
millar13 wrote:Just caught up
Vote: Robo
semes quite scummy from what i have gathered
As others have noted, this post came 4 minutes after the previous one. You read the whole thread up to that point and decided who was scummiest in 4 minutes? Even if you did, you don't present anything to back up your claim. You just say "he's scummy".
millar13 wrote:No....EBWOP clearly informs that I did
More fluff...
millar13 wrote:lol....
if you have something about your role say it now; L-2 or L-1 doesn't matter that much
Someone will probably hammer you anyway. Don't play the card...if get one more vote i will claim card. If you mention claiming then do it, instead of using it as some sort of leverage
Role-fishing. At the very least anti-town if not scummy.
millar13 wrote:Robocopter87 wrote:Well, you see. I'm not at L-2. I'm at L-3.
Actually you are at L-2...if you counted
Muffin wrote:millar13 wrote:Just caught up
Vote: Robo
semes quite scummy from what i have gathered
What, specifically, about Robo seems scummy to you?
Honesty i dislike him totally, in the way he plays and his general attitude. And if he is off the scene, then I am actually able to play the game and search for mafiascum instead of human scum
This is possibly the most substantial post millar has made, and yet it's mostly just quotes. First he corrects a vote count (ooh, ahh) and then when I ask for SPECIFIC REASONS why he finds robo funny, as per his earlier vote, he says "I just don't like him" more anti-town BS
millar13 wrote:Clearly I am not fishing for his roles; because he is the person that brought them up to begin with.
My view is that as soon as your mention your have roles
1) You are putting a target over you head
2) You are trying to use it as leverage not to get lynched (but ultimatley mafia will normally NK u unless you are fellow scum)
3) If you mention roles, but then say you will only reveal say at L-1 rather than L-2...then that is just scummy.
Here millar provides a list of what he thinks happens when someone mentions that they have a power role. Fine, good, whatever. But this is not scumhunting, this is just filler crap, including the bullshit "claiming at L-1 is scummy"
millar13 wrote:I'm not replacing out of a game, because someone has a vendetta on me and I'm stepping up to the mark.
Plus the fact that from a quick skim...he seems most scummy seems to be apparent. Its quite clear im not the only one that thinks this after only six pages
Refusing to ask for a replacement because he has a personal grudge against another player, even after it was pointed out that holding said grudge can be detrimental to the town.
millar13 wrote:I'm so confused as too what just happen
Still more fluff and filler
millar13 wrote:I don't actually understand what that even means; was that english?
And more...
millar13 wrote:Unvote
fine but if he doesn't claim; my vote is going right back on him
False claiming is a big no-no is my book
and replacement; dont be so silly. I'm not the first person to have quarrells on this site.
False claiming is a no-no in most peoples' books, but there was no evidence Robo had false-claimed. This is just filler disguised as scumhunting. Also still refusing to replace out due to his personal grudge.
millar13 wrote:Iecerint wrote:Well, that was neat.
If we look at RC's global posting pattern on the site, we may get an idea of when the "Zerg Rush" ability was sent in. This is relevant based on the probability that it was sent in prior to robo claiming needing an extra vote to lynch him.
Ythan, why is that post scummy?
Oh that is a good point....who else is online @ the moment. Active lurking!!!
Millar shows us how to latch on to someone else's argument when you can't come up with any on your own. Here he's presented with the idea of calling people active lurkers.
millar13 wrote:EBWOP:
bv310 wrote:Unvote
Not ready for a lynch just yet.
possibly BV; had something to do with this? But with it not going through, stepped away from voting in order to remove oneself from firing line? Just an idea not a FOS or anything like that
Here he throws BV's name out. It might be true, but again millar provides nothing concrete to back it up. It's just "LOL HAY GUYS IT MIGHT BE BV"
millar13 wrote:How did you get that power?
More filler
millar13 wrote:So your claiming that as a Good you; you have a power that you don't have to select daily/nightly and instead have a power that works throughout the entire game?
And more
millar13 wrote:Yea; would like to know that too. if your going to claim power; might as well give ur character
"Oh, someone else asked for his character... I better do the same so I seem pro-town"
millar13 wrote:i still don't believe its a passive thing, but rather a selfish-self election thing.
Still speculating about this power. Still not scumhunting.
millar13 wrote:However, someone did think they were going to kill you off though. Which means scum definitely fear you; which means despite everything i said earlier your 100% town.
This is a significant post, IMO. Millar was the first person to come to this conclusion, or at least to voice it in thread. He also flip flops on Robo's alignment and says that robo is now "100% town". I think this is a case of scum having stuck their necks out too far and backpedaling furiously.
millar13 wrote:What is Zerg Rush? i don't actually fully understand the theme, but it looked cool
Does millar think that if he just keeps providing shallow comments on the goings-on that nobody will suspect him?
millar13 wrote:That is the exact point i made lol; i think we can confirm Robo as town.
Unless of course a fellow mafia member knew he would survive; in the ultimate cover-up
Just saying lol, because you never know with themes.
So I clearly cannot drink the wine in front of
you
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millar13 wrote:Oh im not saying i fully believe that, but in this game never leave any stone unturned
Unable to commit to anything. That is a scumtell IMHO
millar13 wrote:that Day action has shaken things up so much lol
Can't think of anything to say still?
millar13 wrote:yea lol....make me think. If Robo does have the ability to increase someone vote threshhold then could an opposite role lower someone's threshold
Yes, that's indeed possible. But speculating on the setup is not scumhunting.
millar13 wrote:You can't know that for sure; you cant be certain that is the counter
Still no scumhunting
millar13 wrote:I think someone doesn't neccersarily have to have voted; to instigate it.
Still no scumhunting
millar13 wrote:Vote: STTB
WAY TO GO ACTIVE LURKER SCUM!
you have nothing to say during the entire period of this Zerg Attack, but as soon as someone votes for you you post within an hour.
SCUM
Oh and here we see the argument that millar latched onto earlier is brought to bear on someone! No case is presented. No logic. Just call him an active lurker and vote. That ought to work right? Right?
millar13 wrote:i dont do other games....because i play each 1 differently. All i know is you had nothing to say; until someone VOTED for you. Denying that?
This is about as close as millar comes to actively attempting to find scum.
millar13 wrote:Neto it was a completly OMGUS...and i no you noticed that he has SUDDENLY appeared after you voted him.
HIGH FIVE on a lurker trap
Buddying up to neto.
millar13 wrote:Reasons Kdub?
Fluff.
millar13 wrote:yours is based solely on coincidence and timing...not actually a strong case. Just a lot of quote and comments.
This one is rich. He claims someone's argument is weak because it's based only on coincidence and timing and yet TWO POSTS PREVIOUSLY he did the same thing to Shotty. What a joke.
millar13 wrote:Vote: Furcolow
i might be partially dyslexic (one of the reasons i play games like this; to practise)
but; that has not reason to indicate scum; that is one of the worst reasons ever.
SCUM I FOUND YOU!
Wishy-washy voting.
millar13 wrote:lowered threshhold lol...my vote put him at L-4 (without it he goes to L....oh wait NO VOTES)
you put him on L-3.
And to be honest I hope that we get another three votes on him; i might not often see eye to eye with you lol (i think its an ACTIVE PLAYERS thing) but grammar is never a reason....never ever ever a reason to suspect someone. Maybe in RVS....and that just a scummy player looking for something desperate. If people are even nervous about hammering this scummy mofo, il opt to hammer him myself.
Correcting a votecount again. This is closer to what I like to see, but it is still not scumhunting.
millar13 wrote:EBWOP:
seeing as i didn't
Unvote
lol easy mistake...although Shotty (i am coming for you DAy) and u will get a big case
Vote:Furcolow
Forgot to unvote... okay... Nice to see he promised a "big case" for shotty. I wonder if we'll ever see it? Somehow I doubt it.
millar13 wrote:oh you do though...its called pressure.
And if he actually is scum; then this ZERG thing could very well have been instigated by him
so would be irony if it was sort of pushing him againgst it.
L-2...it good tbh as if anyone puts him to L-1....then that person is indeed going to look scummy.
And i dont think anyone is going to want that...but L-3...isn't really enough especially considering...shotty and myself were both L-3 on this page; so i don't quite understand why your not altogether with it Neto (unless you know something?)
Oh now he claims that L-2 is just as much pressure as L-1. Let's see about that, shall we?
millar13 wrote:fair point; i just believe that FOSing weak, especially after he gave such an easy oppurtunity.
In fact; i am so confident as i never seen such a week case that if would happily REPLACE out of this game if i was wrong about him lol.
I don't think it gets much easier than when someones uses the "grammar" or other such stupid reasons (HATING on someone however is a legit reason; in this community)
Hmm, here he states that he thinks fossing is weak. I agree, I think fossing is silly and arbitrary. Here he claims that he'll replace out of this game if he's wrong. Also according to millar grammar and such things are not a legitimate case, but hating someone is a legitimate case. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
millar13 wrote:Basically; i am fully confident in my spot. The use of "Grammar" being the reason I am scummy is weak. That is almost like 'Furcolow' shouting; im a member of the scum-team and ive actually lost reasons other than to make on that exists; but isn't legitimate. If you could make money from predictions; i would put money that he is defo scum.
I agree that grammar is not a legitimate case against someone. What I think is legitimate is that millar STILL has not done any scumhunting.
millar13 wrote:lol Furcolowi like the blatant OMGUS
Furcolow wrote:millar13 wrote:Basically; i am fully confident in my spot. The use of "Grammar" being the reason I am scummy is weak. That is almost like 'Furcolow' shouting; im a member of the scum-team and ive actually lost reasons other than to make on that exists; but isn't legitimate. If you could make money from predictions; i would put money that he is defo scum.
i'm not scum. i'll let you stick to your IRC with Netopalis and STTB
vote millar13
Muffin wrote:millar13 wrote:oh you do though...its called pressure.
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L-2...it good tbh as if anyone puts him to L-1....then that person is indeed going to look scummy.
And i dont think anyone is going to want that...but L-3...isn't really enough especially considering...shotty and myself were both L-3 on this page; so i don't quite understand why your not altogether with it Neto (unless you know something?)
You are at L-2 now Millar. Do you feel pressure?
Considering how weak Furcolow looks now; no
IRC? Say what? I'm not one with the technical jargon.
Anyway; your only reason for voting me was THE IRC and me voting for you; that is one hell of weak defense.
And although we are both at L-2, i think i am safe in saying that you are feeling more pressure than I am.
Here he claims Furcolow's vote is OMGUS. It probably is, as I could see furcolow being scum as well, trying to distance himself from obvscum Millar. What I find interesting about this post is that Millar is at L-2, and claims he feels no pressure, despite earlier claiming that L-2 is an effective pressure situation.
millar13 wrote:Robo...what is an IC?
Fail
millar13 wrote:i meant IRC sorry lol
Just google it, jesus christ.
millar13 wrote:Also want to know what Muffin thinks.
About Furcolow
Is being under my scrutiny uncomfortable? Trying to get me off your back? Too lazy to go back a couple of pages and read what I said about Furcolow?
millar13 wrote:Policy lynching a bad player is common; i often deserve it.
But personally; i just feel like it was a real bad attempt and he is flailing now
Here he latches on to the flailing argument, as I mentioned previously.
millar13 wrote:Lazyness is scummy
FOS:Muffin
Oh, so now he's decided to fos me, despite saying earlier he thinks it's weak. I'm quaking in my space-boots at the prospect of a fos.
millar13 wrote:I've contributed nothing? Wow....your opinion is so useless
The sum total of your contributions is equal to the square root of dick. Nothing.
One's self-meta cannot be known without invalidating it.