Mini 975 - Dirty Dirty South Mafia - game over

[camn]

Be advised.. if we ever flip a scum roleblocker (or bus driver or something...), than the gambit fails. But we are no worse than we are now.

All Town PRs: stay off Kenman and his targets.

[Hoopla]

camn, who are we lynching instead if Earl is Kenman's target?

[Ellibereth]

Steamshovel!

Unvote, Vote Steamshovel

[Hoopla]

Steamshovel!

Unvote, Vote Steamshovel

Perfect timing. Just before your name came up. I kind of agree with this wagon too, though.

What do you make of Kenman's claim?

[Kenman]

lucky me.. i guess..., luckier for the town as we dont want another mylynch. Since i strongly suspect earlder as scum, hiding behind him is totally gonna get me killed anyways. But at least we will confirm one scum member.

[Ellibereth]

Believe it.
Steamshovel is also the most likely scum on his wagon.

[SaintKerrigan]

I don't like this bandwagon; too cliqueish. I would consider getting on if Elli left.

I see no problem with Ellibereth.

Explain, plz.

Unvote: Earlder1.

Kenman, just in case this isn't clear, you need to send your "Hide behind Earl" action NAO. As in, ASAP.

[Hoopla]

Vote: Steamshovel

Your townieness is on the line here Elli.

Also, according to the Natural Role Resolution page on wiki, hiding resolves before blocking, so the mafia will find it difficult to manipulate the hider's results (if it's true).

[Kenman]

*sends pm*

[SaintKerrigan]

Wait a minute.

I thought Hiders were NK immune as long as they were hiding. Why does Camn think NKing the Hider gets both the Hider and his target dead?

[Kenman]

I can be NK'd if I hide behind a mafia member or someone else who is NK'd

[SaintKerrigan]

Nvm, I just read Camn's statement funny the first time. I get things now.

[Incognito]

*Kenman (4) <-~ SerialClergyman, bouncy.bouncy, Earlder1, Steam-Powered Shovel
Earlder1 (2) <-~ TheButtonmen, Kenman
Steam-Powered Shovel (2) <-~ Ellibereth, Hoopla

Not voting (3) <-~ camn, Maemuki, SaintKerrigan

11 alive; 6 votes will do it.

An asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if deadline were to hit right this moment.

Morning Deadline:

Friday, May 21st at 9:00 P.M. EST

Day Deadline:

Monday, May 24th at 9:00 P.M. EST

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Seems like a reasonable plan.

Unvote

Need to think a bit.

Elli, your suspicions are based on nothing more than me playing my usual game. I just like to bandwagon.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Forgot to address this:

I don't like this bandwagon; too cliqueish. I would consider getting on if Elli left.

I see no problem with Ellibereth.

Explain, plz.

Ellibereth's part of the clique. Thus, if Ellibereth were to leave, the bandwagon would no longer be "too cliqueish" for me. That first quote didn't imply distrust of Ellibereth.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ SPS: So why Elli, specifically?

Meanwhile,

Vote: Maemuki.

GET THE FRUITCAKE BACK IN HERE, GIRL!

[bouncy.bouncy]

Alright, I guess I was a little too into my results. Camn's plan seems good to me.

I think there is a good case against earlder, even by Kenman, but I have no problem with SPS' lynch.

Any thoughts on whom I should block, or should I keep it secret for now?

Unvote, Vote: Steam-Powered Shovel

[camn]

Keep it secret, but stay away from Kennan and his targets.

You are likely dead if you don't pick right... So give it some thought.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

I'm going to

Vote: TheButtonMen

.

Looking back, I don't like how he holds off commenting on the MSwagon and then pushes the wagon while voting for Earlder. I also don't like how he justifies his Day 2 Earlder vote by referring to his previous statements despite only posting one line's worth of anti-Earlder reasoning on Day 1.

[Earlder1]

Kenman has sealed his own fate. I know for a FACT that he is lying.

Here's why...

1) Meta. Kenman's first non-newbie game was a game similar to this one with very diverse roles. Right off the bat, someone claimed

hider

. Kenman isn't a hider, he is just false claiming based off of his first game with such roles. The reason I know this is because in the game where he was introduced to hider, the hider claimed

right away on the first day

. This is because the mafia cannot target the hider and it only benefots the town to know that he has such a role. He can then say who he hid behind every night and gradually give the town more info. Kenman knows this. He was in the game where this was done!

He knows for a fact there is no reason to not claim Hider immediately!

. Therefore, if he really were the hider, he would have claimed as soon as the game opened. Furthermore, he doesn't know any potential roles in this format (shown by the fact he did not know there could be a town roleblocker). It makes perfect sense that the only possible role he can claim is hider because he saw it in his previous game.

2. I am the

tracker

. My role can determine whether a player has targetted someone or not. I tracked Kenman and I found out that he

did not target anybody

. He is lying about targetting Hoopla. Even if his role was blocked, I would have seen who he targetted, but I was told that targetted no one. This means that he is definitely inexperienced scum and didn't send a role pm because

town would never lie about their role

. Therefore, I conclusively know that Kenman is lying and is therefore scum.

Now we have two options. Lynch me or lynch Kenman. Either way will confirm what I say, and frankly, I am done for either. Trading one pro-townie for a scum is a good trade any day and I will gladly be a martyr if it means that the town sees my role as tracker and then lynches Kenman.

Good game Kenman

[Earlder1]

@Kenman

Why don't you give us the link to your first non-newbie game. This would prove my point about meta. Or are you going to lie about this as well? I'll go back and find it if I have to, but please, post the link.

[camn]

NO MORE CLAIMING!

Jesus people.
I gotta think this over.

[SaintKerrigan]

Why wait, Camn? One of those two is lying scum, and if we don't lynch the scum today, we'll definitely get him tomorrow.

Unvote: Maemuki. Vote: Kenman.

[Kenman]

@Kenman

Why don't you give us the link to your first non-newbie game. This would prove my point about meta. Or are you going to lie about this as well? I'll go back and find it if I have to, but please, post the link.

HAHAHA thats your argument against me?! Anyone is free to check my last game where there was a hider. Because it is true! There was. Im not going to deny it. But in reality I am still a hider in this game. I dont know why, but that is the luck of the draw.

Secondly, Earlder knows that I have already submitted my pm to hide behind him, which guarantees he will be found out at the start of the next day. HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO FAKE CLAIM.

[bouncy.bouncy]

Unvote, Vote: Earlder1

I say lynch both in case of bussing.

Since Earlder was the one Kenman was supposedly going to hide behind, and Kenman potentially has a cop ability, I think it's better to lynch Earlder first.