Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[Fro99er]

Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.

RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh

How come neither of you (or at least Vifam) is affected by the cop claim as far as assessing a TvS theory setup?
I would think that would tend to sharply affect your value call if you were pretty sure at least one, but not both players were scum.

That's the reason I'm reading over the game again. I don't know how to handle a claim like that, I'm trying to figure out if I should trust RC's claim or not.

This fits a newbie backup Cop mondset

[Fro99er]

I think either you or RC is scum. I have said that before. I'd rather lynch you before RC because of RC's claim.

[Fro99er]

^was at gerry

[Fro99er]

Posting to say a few things:
I can't access a computer right now.
Gerry's reaction to RC's claim now makes sense.
I also now believe RC is town.
Transcend, Vifam, you didn't even let Akarin post. I mean seriously, you could have at least waited a day or so at L-1 to get a claim from Gerry.

I'm narrowing down my lynch pool to Transcend and Vifam today, barring an extremely good argument for lynching RC.

This is the reaction of a town backup Cop starting D2

[Fro99er]

I'm quite certain this isn't an incredible newbie gambit or a pro gambit by a guy pretending to be a newbie.

[Fro99er]

Town!Rauth makes the most sense.

Especially how they approached the Jar lynch

[Fro99er]

So really it's still MBG/Uzi, and in that case I still go with MBG because scum HAVE to have a way to negate the cops and a motion detector is not a claim scum!Uzi would have made

[Fro99er]

Also RC.

Since you're confident you were shot, it points to scum having a blocking role. Otherwise without a blocking role they shoot the claimed backup cop

[Fro99er]

I strongly believe MBG is scum. Not just from the claim stuff but also from his play.

The question is do we leash his JK, or lynch him today.

[nancy]

wait wait rauth could be rolecop and that would explain the barring a very good argument because it still leaves wiggle room to make the innocent claim.... but why would he then make the innocent claim if he genuinely thought that the wagon was going through? because of keyser?

[nancy]

like the shit on rauth is that since the claim he's basically produced ZERO content, if it's scum!rauth that's obviously because he knows he can't reliably produce content without seeming scummy and thus his excuse of intentionally being scummy wouldn't fly.... but this argument basically requires assuming it's truth for it to make sense so me no like that much

[nancy]

but that still doesn't explain his reaction day 1.... although that might be false positive on a pr soft/slip, i've done that before

[Fro99er]

Again. That would require a pretty sophisticated gambit from a newbie player.

It also doesn't explain his behavior around Jar.

It also doesn't explain the scum motivation behind clearing town!RC while RC was under heat for the fake claim (unless Rauth and RC are scum together, but Ibreally don't think RC's paranoia about Rauth scum is scum Thayer between them, given they could have had any number of lynches today already).

[Fro99er]

There's no way Rauth is scum.

I'm willing to stake the game on it.

I've tried fleshing it out and I can't come to a world where Rauth is scum.

[Fro99er]

scum Rauth wouldn't clear a town RC there. No way.

[Fro99er]

Scum would love for an RC mislynch to go theough

[nancy]

nah man rauth gotta be town here, this scum!rauth is far fetched as fuck

we fuck up mbg fo sho

and then thinkbig

rip

unless we're lynching in vts in which case the other way around but w/e

pedit yea same page

[Fro99er]

That's why Jar pushed it.

And remember, scum have daytalk.

There's NO WAY Jar pushes RC like that and that scum coach a scum!Rauth to take the heat off RC.

No no no

[nancy]

lol rc is never getting lynched gtfo

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Rautherdir

Why would Rautherdir as backup cop be at all confused if I claimed cop?

[Fro99er]

lol rc is never getting lynched gtfo

I never said he is.

What are you talking about?

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Rautherdir

Why would Rautherdir as backup cop be at all confused if I claimed cop?

He's a newbie.

I think he might not know that there can't be godfathers in this setup. It's his first normal game ever.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Rautherdir

Why would Rautherdir as backup cop be at all confused if I claimed cop?

Because you claimed "a role with the word cop in it"

Not cop

[RadiantCowbells]

At the very least I am making Rautherdir answer to the weirdness of his play. I've seen scum do far weirder things before and if this was all brought out because the dude panicked when asked how he knew I was town...

[nancy]

because you claimed cop variety, go back and look at the quote i posted of his lmao it's like 100% newbie uhh what do i do here uhh