Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[VFP]

I mean, if you really want to cheese it, game setup probably shows a lot here.

There has only been 1 confirmed role that gains the same information.
Role cop. There was scum and town with role cop here.
There's 2 players claiming mask information here. That suggests that there's scum / town with this knowledge at the very least. Although I think 1 is just a lie.

The second part is we had a 1 shot ninja checker.
Now me and Retti are never ninja here or we make the kill with an obvious tracker. However, a scum mask may give this ability for a night+.
I don't have a mask and Retti does. So unless Maria just added a role that is pointless, it suggests Retti is scum.

Setup is this
Town
VT List cop
JOAT mod poster/ninja checker/role cop (1 shot)
VT IC
Tracker +Watcher
1 shot vig + 1 shot vig
Doc
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT

Scum
Goon
Role cop
Even night roleblocker, killed odd night no roles flip

There is 1 mask in scum out of 3 players.
There are confirmed 5 in town including Flea

If I'm scum
Most likely Goon? Maybe JOAT ninja / strong man 1 shot? Although tracker watcher is a huge counter here.
Town add reflex inventor with Flea
Gov with information
Mask cop

I believe Retti gets information on lims, just lying what it is.

VOTE: Retti

[Flea The Magician]

I ma as well come clean at this point...

I give out Strongman modifers to anyone who vist me, T3 was a Strongman Tracker.
My mask, roleblocks those players and I assume that overrides the strongman modifier.

I got fuck all info and was just fishing for scum to come clean Apparently my mask has no cost either.

I think no-lim is the best play here still, honestly.

[VFP]

Regardless if T3 was strongman, there's no record of a ninja.
But there's mod mention of a ninja.

The only mechanically way I'm scum here is if I have ninja as a role of some sort since I'm confirmed no mask.

[willow1]

ninja is a role modifier, meaning it would not be revealed on mask check. assuming sam was not trolling there is a poisoner.

mods on this site unfortunately like to give stupid red herrings so no ninja would not be surprising, but ninja-gladiator-poisoner retti would be wild.

keep in mind jjh & andante were caught performing the night kills. this heavily suggests there is no ninja.

[VFP]

Again, the poison could be from a town mask.
Ninja would be a scum role or scum mask.

The JOAT role is not in a typical place of a red herring.
The fact we had a tracker / watcher with mask use means that scum have very little power here unless I'm a strong scum JOAT
If you compare what can be found. Plus the fact 2 town receive mask information? Why?

Retti is obviously a gladiator. And the mask does something. Why not makes the actions ninja? The reason for it not to have been used is then fear of a negative to a slot highly town read.

[willow1]

scum had an even night RB and a rolecop+thief they had plenty of power

that said i don't really wanna argue mechanical specifics at this point

gonna read this stupid ass manga and move my vote if the gladiator character is scum lmfao

[willow1]

actually he day 1 claimed it when it was unknown how much flavor knowledge anyone had so uhhh

would be bold

also this shit is long

[VFP]

I disagree, our 2 most powerful roles were masks.
The fact scum only hit a PR 1/4 times with the risk of a negative power is not strong.

[VFP]

2 Powers, not roles.

[VFP]

In fact, only the Vig or tracker would be good to take.
With Doc as runner up.

The strong part of scum is the rolecop and the alignment only flips.
Say if I was a poisoner, then I'm a JOAT with ninja. Me saving my poison shows reason to not be wasteful. This means I have the ninja role after Andante is the lim but I get jjh to kill?

[willow1]

i'm 80 chapters in and this manga sucks and no sign of a gladiator so far

the things i do for mafia games............

[willow1]

up thru chapter 125 the explicitly information gathering mask man would be scum aligned though still no signs of any gladiator/poisoner flavor

retti???? RETTI???????

[willow1]

OH MY GOD IN CHAPTER 126 HE'S TRYING TO DUEL HER

RETTI??????? DARLING????

[Retti]

Dude, I literally cannot say anything toward this line of questioning without risking a modkill

[Retti]

Like fucking think for a second, please

[Retti]

Anyway, I've only read like 8 chapters because it wasn't my bag, but aren't most of the mask characters explicitly antagonistic, including the ones who have flipped as town in the OP? Like jesus christ flavor is clearly not 1:1 here

[willow1]

im mostly joking b/c still doesn't line up but im only 3/5ths of the way through so haha yeet

[willow1]

look i could read the mafia game or i could read the comic book the answer is obvious

[Retti]

every day I decide whether to read manga or play mafia and I always make the wrong choice

[Retti]

If you actually threw the game over role-based flavor spec I would fucking never let you live it down though

[willow1]

ur words mean nothing old man, im a zen master, i read the bad ecchi manga and become enlightened through it and reach my own conclusions

[willow1]

at least now im confirmed town b/c oh god why would I read this as scum

[Retti]

at least now im confirmed town b/c oh god why would I read this as scum

maybe you're just hornt for the anime tiddy

[willow1]

BRUH

INFO GATHERING CHARACTER ALIGNED WITH THE BADDIES

IS NOW DUELING A SECOND MC LMAO

[Retti]

I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD DUDE