Open Game List (Players & Moderators)

[greygnarl]

It seems there is no interest in playing Apocalypse.

[Klick]

/in Whiskers if something awesome happens that allows me to get in it; otherwise, /in to replace

[Hoopla]

Open 470:

(Masons and Mafia) has filled for Whiskers with the following playerlist:

greygnarl
Om of the Nom
McStab
JohnnyFarrar
Bitmap
Cheery Dog
Salamence20
DoubleJD
Hyperion
Venrob
Dannflor
Melmond
Venmar

Announcing signups for a new game:

Open 471:

(Double Day Unlimited)

Setup:

(2x Goons, 7x Townies, Double Day, Unlimited Voting)

Mod:

saulres

Status:

0/9

Still taking signups for:

Open 464:

Apocalypse

Setup:

(2x Mafia Goons, 1x Mafia Secretary, 1x Odd-Night Goon Cop, 1x Even-Night Goon Cop, 8x Townies)

Mod:

Kdub

Status:

1/13

Rain1000

[Lincolm]

/in 471

[greygnarl]

/in 471

[Voidedmafia]

/471

Can I win 3/4? I hope so <_<

[Voidedmafia]

DASHIE, COME JOIN US! LET'S BE ON THE SAME TEAM THIS TIME!

[Whiskers]

Lol, poor RainbowDash. No simple setups for her.

Go play a Newbie?

[saulres]

Can I win 3/4? I hope so

I'm just wondering if town's going to get

any

lynches right. In both games I've run so far, scum have had perfect victories.

[Whiskers]

Remind me: Do I have to go and New Topic, or do I wait for a mod to gift me a thread, or what?

[Rainbowdash]

Can I win 3/4? I hope so

I'm just wondering if town's going to get

any

lynches right. In both games I've run so far, scum have had perfect victories.

Thats because its scum sided by far. Town gets four mislynches (9, 8, 6, 5), which is the same as mountainous (11, 9, 7, 5). At the same time though, they get less information due to less NKs. In a late mountainous you have twice as many confirmed town than in doubleday.

It LOOKS more townsides because its an "oh twice the lynches" instinct... but you still only get lynches at 98653 comapred to (11)9753. They just are orginized differently.

Thinking about it. This is more up my alley but the fact that nopony realizes optimal play is to be conservative (no multiple votes) and its most likely a town loss to start im not sure.

[saulres]

^ I wasn't referring to this setup, I was meant the prior two games that I ran.

[Hoopla]

Remind me: Do I have to go and New Topic, or do I wait for a mod to gift me a thread, or what?

Go make the thread.

Thats because its scum sided by far. Town gets four mislynches (9, 8, 6, 5), which is the same as mountainous (11, 9, 7, 5). At the same time though, they get less information due to less NKs. In a late mountainous you have twice as many confirmed town than in doubleday.

You're comparing a 2:7 game to a 2:9 game. Town should do a lot better in a smaller game with the same amount of mislynches as each individual lynch has better odds of hitting scum (before you factor in 'information', which is an overrated commodity in a mountainous game as scum get to manipulate the players who survive with great control). Scum have less control over the nightkill which is an advantage as it keeps obv-townies/good scumhunters alive longer - this is why towns generally do well in nightless games.

[njoseph]

/in for 464 Apocalypse

[njoseph]

It seems there is no interest in playing Apocalypse.

Why? For a scum team, is the MAFIA SECRETARY too risky of a role?

[njoseph]

I inned though. And I am a picky person.

[Voidedmafia]

You're comparing a 2:7 game to a 2:9 game. Town should do a lot better in a smaller game with the same amount of mislynches as each individual lynch has better odds of hitting scum (before you factor in 'information', which is an overrated commodity in a mountainous game as scum get to manipulate the players who survive with great control). Scum have less control over the nightkill which is an advantage as it keeps obv-townies/good scumhunters alive longer - this is why towns generally do well in nightless games.

Also, I think that in the 3 Open setups that have been run so far (excluding the Micros, I mean), it's mainly been more about the town's competency/incompetency/focus than anything the scum's done, though I could be wrong given what I remember.

In the first setup town was doing fairly well, but CES's entry into the game gave us a kind of momentum boost of sorts.

In the 2nd town was hampered pretty heavily by Loranthecae and PMysterious. I mean, sure, whisky and myself were arguably the two towniest people there (which partially explains why Whisky bit the bullet N1), but most of our attention was on getting rid of VIs, not hunting scum.

In the 3rd (most recent) game where I was scum, the town in this game (of which Dashie was a part of) was pretty well off, but I don't really feel like they focused enough on the right targets, or something along those lines. I honestly feel like if Shos and Buldermar hadn't been so focused on each other's potential scumminess and looked at me a little more they might've actually won.

(Of course, I've always stated I'm terrible at post-game analysis, so make of this what you will. I still want you to join me, Dashie.)

[Voidedmafia]

(referring to D3's LyLo for Game 3 with Shos, Buld, and myself, btw.)

[TheReverend]

Was I too slow for 470? I blame doublejd for pm'ing me too late. Let me know if you need replacements.

[Cheery Dog]

Salamence never confirmed his pre-in, so based off Whisker's posts he's not actually in the game since it didn't happen.

[TheReverend]

Ok, well I'll leave it to whiskers to decide if I'm in or in replace queue. I'm pretty sure venrob and bitmap will flake aaaaahahahaha.

[Bitmap]

Ok, well I'll leave it to whiskers to decide if I'm in or in replace queue. I'm pretty sure venrob and bitmap will flake aaaaahahahaha.

With a pretty good playerlist like that? Lolno. Also, some of my favorite players are in that game.

[Om of the Nom]

Ok, well I'll leave it to whiskers to decide if I'm in or in replace queue. I'm pretty sure venrob and bitmap will flake aaaaahahahaha.

With a pretty good playerlist like that? Lolno. Also, some of my favorite players are in that game.

*cough* me *cough*

[Kdub]

Didn't realize signups had been reopened. Updated setup advertisement (much thanks to LlamaFluff for helpful comments and suggestions):

Open 464 - Apocalypse

Mod: Kdub

A new twist on the White Flag setup...

1 Odd-Night Goon Cop
1 Even-Night Goon Cop
8 Townies

1 Mafia Secretary
2 Mafia Goons

Goon cops only get guilty results on goons (duh), will get innocent results on the secretary and town players.

If the secretary dies, one of the goons dies with him. If both goons are still alive when the secretary is lynched, a lone goon will have to win the game by himself. If one or both goons are already dead, the secretary's lynch is an instant town win.

Before the start of D1, the three mafia will get to select which one of them will be the Secretary. Mafia will have full daytalk throughout the game.

[Whiskers]

@Hoopla: I'm taking TheReverend. Salamence had to confirm before gamestart, and has siteflaked.

Truth be told, I'm Ok with this.