Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

Why do you think he's scum and not vig bait?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do we have a vig to get rid of him?

[Ythan]

It's an almost 30 player no vanilla game. Stop fishing and use your head.

[chesskid3]

Any reason I shouldn't vanillize Beefster because he's shown he is an idiot and doesn't deserve any powers?

[Ythan]

Because he's better than you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's an almost 30 player no vanilla game. Stop fishing and use your head.

And I deserved that one... >.<

In all honesty, Chess, you need to use your power tonight on undesirables who have not claimed. In my opinion, I think the number 1 vanilization target would be Aikage.

[RayFrost]

I agree with ythan here.

chess should be vigged, and he shouldn't use his ability at this time.

Oh! Don't vanilize aikage, he's a voteless person now. Imagine the damage he could do with a vote. Seriously.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But Ray! If he's voteless, imagine what his Power must be? He can't justness a voteless townie. He MUST have some power.

The question is, do We trust him with said power over a vote?

[RayFrost]

Aikage should claim his full role. Then we know for sure, yes?

[Ythan]

Aikage is also vig bait. Play as bad as his does not reflect on alignment. Although, he might just be Navi and if so might be an alt.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Ythan: would you agree his obsession in lynching you or BE, coupled with his lack of vote, could be a lyncher/jester type deal?

[Ythan]

This is possible. iirc every crazy Reck game I know of has had a lyncher. If he were a lyncher, though, that means he doesn't even have to be on the wagon to win (because he has no vote). I know lynchers often must be on the wagon to win but I don't know just how pervasive that is?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm speculaing his lack of a vote only extends to players who are not his target.

Note that he has refused to vote for either of you or BE, desire not having a vote. I think he's hiding that stipulation of his "votelessness".

Another possible theory is that he can only vote when hammering his target.

[Ythan]

That is a very specific assumption.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Only speculation Ythan. I'm trying to find the logical motivation for his moves, and I found this to be most likely.

[Ythan]

Why the most likely? It's an oddly specific theory.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

sorry forgot about this game almos, been busy this week.

i told you guys fate was scum! ythan is his buddy clearly, if you read back you see that they never suspected eachotehr once and were trying to lead town!

plz vote for ythan today fate being scum should be enoough you guys should listen to me now. i wish my roll wasnt so dumb and i could vote

I'm sorry... but does anyone else see Aikage as a really fail Lyncher?

Like, I'm the person who spent all of yesterday raging at Ythan and calling him scum...

But this is like almost blatant lyncher talk.

First

off, Fate flipped SK, not scum. Slight difference, but a major one if you are arguing guilt by association.

Secondly

, can you show me evidence of WHY Ythan is scum? I know that I have presented some... but most of it is really subjective and circumstantial, and I'll admit that. I felt he was scum, from my perspective, but there was no real solid proof. You don't even have subjective evidence. You simply come out and claim him as scum. Present a case please.

Thirdly

, have you even scum hunted? This is about the 3rd time you've "apologized for not reading". All you have ever said is "YTHAN IS SCUM, I WISH I COULD VOTE HIM, EVERYONE VOTE FOR ME PLEASE". You haven't even looked at anyone else... It's almost like you're, I don't know, fixated on his lynch? Just sayin'

Just a note:

Does a lynch work in such a way, that they have to be the vote that HAMMERS the wagon?

Also, it HAS been shown that Aikage doesn't have a vote.... but only on people other than Ythan.

Maybe he has a vote that works ONLY on Ythan, or only when HAMMERING Ythan?

If I'm wrong about this speculation, please call me on it... but this seems fairly logical to me.

Another question:

Can lyncher targets be scum? Or are they generally town/third party?

This was the original case on Aikage I posted. Please note that the SK commet was under the impression that he was SK, because someone else said it >.<.

As for the reasoning for the specifics: I can't find any other logical reason for what he's done. The specifics are to clairity the options/possibilities for me.

Also note that I'm assuming that Aikage has a shred of logic.

[chesskid3]

Yawn, I'm not vigbait, since my role is confirmable. I'll suicide when I've got two nice targets, and in the meantime I'll do whatever I want. Also, the next person to insult me gets moved to the top of the vanillize list.

[Ythan]

One, good point Lady but I need to check what we have on his voteless status. Chess, being confirmable in death does not make you not-vig-bait.

[Ythan]

Aikage is in VCs. Why do we think he is voteless. A claim only?

[chesskid3]

Good thing you're not the vig then ha ha

[Ythan]

Apparently his vote on Mafuyu didn't show up in the count.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Aikage is in VCs. Why do we think he is voteless. A claim only?

Exactly my point. However, his vote on Mafuyu on day one was seen as not counting.(I think)

[Ythan]

Good thing you're not the vig then ha ha

ha ha

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just wondering: what does IIRC mean?

>.<