Cometbright notes PT Newbie 2119

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Unless it's scum Delta AND Bella and they just realised they might both be able to get away with this???

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Flip Delta and if he's PR then vote out Bella tomorrow I think is the play I need here.

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Wait Delta is guaranteed scum here. Doc claim MUST be true and Delta is now claiming something that can coincide with Doctor.

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Yeah need to get a Delta flip. Let's see if I can do that without having to reveal myself.

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Ughhhh I hate breadcrumbing but I think this is the right play here.

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urrently I think so?

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bviously there's an issue here that if the other hypothetical PR is away/doesn't respond in time cause of deadline then we're in a bit of trouble here.

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robability of that is hard to tell though... need to seed everyone who hasn't posted since then post now to confirm that.

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Bella I know you're doctor - please get the message and push the Delta wagon for me.

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This is such bad timing for all this to happen god I need to sleep soon.

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Revealing here is super risky - I know there's a mafia roleblocker and they know it's a cop/doctor setup. If Delta isn't the roleblocker then I get killed tonight... if Delta is the roleblocker then Bella gets killed tonight and I die n2.

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There's also a non-zero chance that both Delta AND Bella are scum here and orchestrated this play to out the other PR and get one of them 'hard-confirmed' when the other is executed.

Because if Delta claims tracker and Bella claims doctor, they know either the solo Jailkeeper or solo Cop (me) will believe the matching claim... they'd be gambling on no masons though.

If Delta claims tracker here that will only heighten my fears (and terrify me more).

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But then that play probably ends up failing because sure one of the scum gets 'confirmed' but after my death they'll inevitably be confused as to why the other 'confirmed' PR is still alive - right?

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I'm just so confused over Delta's turn here. I know with 100% certainty he's scum here - but why did he suddenly backpeddle on his counterclaim?

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He's trying to get me to out myself - he knows that there's a cop and is realising even if he gets Bella executed today he just gets executed the next day and the cop roams free to do as they please.

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So if I out myself to get him executed I'm just playing into scum hands...

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But if I don't out myself and he doesn't get executed then we're in serious trouble.

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The only good outcome here is if town proceeds with the Delta execute... but I also don't have time to wait to see if that happens as the deadline is close.

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No good options here. I'm really stumped and am worried that I'm screwing town over here by being so reluctant to reveal...

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Is me revealing and guaranteeing the Delta execute in exchange for my death worth it? Do I think town can find the other scum without my help?

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I understand the reasons why but I'm frustrated with town here.

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I guess I'll just have to hope that town listen to reason here.

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Alright - there is literally a sub 1% chance I'm not either night-killed or roleblocked here but might as well try and investigate on the small possibility that the remaining scumplayer slams their face into the keyboard and fails to do either.

I'm just going to lock Dragon and Patch as town in my head for actually following along with my push on Delta pre-reveal, Delta's scum partner is so incredibly unlikely to do that and honestly if they did then credit to them.

AV gets more town-lean for hammering but it's still technically something Delta's scum partner could have done to try and 'confirm' themselves knowing that Delta would inevitably be flipping either way... and they were also part of the 'yep other PR should reveal here' which I think looks bad for anyone involved with.

Bella is probably Doctor as said unless this is a crazy Bella/Delta scum play with them banking on there being either a solo cop/jailkeeper and doing this wild play... but I don't think I can really afford to entertain that possibility tonight anyway.

Which leaves Black/Happy/Venmar.

Venmar was reading scum into Delta pretty much all game... could be long-con scum distancing but I'm happy to leave him out of the suspicious list for now.

Happy was weirdly insistent on town!Delta all game for pretty shoddy reasoning... does scum blatantly defend their partner that weirdly though? It makes them look terrible if he flips.

Black is now my top suspect here tbh. Her play was good and strong all game... then suddenly became super questionable near the end there. Arguing back when I tried to defend Dragon from being executed instead of Delta, siding with Delta over Bella, siding with Delta over me, but it was never done in the weird blatant way that Happy did so, but with logic written out explaining it... but honestly I'm not sure how good faith that logic is. On the plus side I think the rest of town noticed this too and I imagine she'll be getting some heat for it.

I'll try to investigate Black and see how that works out. In the miracle event I survive and get a result back, it'll let me quickly tell if we should be pushing Black or switch focus to someone else.

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Honestly I think this game is showing that I am not made of strong enough stuff for forum mafia - I had such a pit in my stomach forming when I had to push Delta there and he started the aggressive responses back - Dragon and Patch giving me their support gave me just enough willpower to dig in and stand firm but was genuinely feeling nauseous there. I wish Black/Bella/AV had backed me up there but I understand why from a town perspective they'd be uncomfortable pushing a vote on an 'uncountered' cop, I had the information that I knew Delta was 100% lying there but they didn't - but that's the nature of this game I suppose!

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Well, maybe the sudden push on Delta there even after his 'reveal' pinged me as the other PR to the scumteam anyway. I'm looking forward to scumchat to see if I was actually under suspicion there before I revealed.

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I feel like revealing in the end there though was the right play. If I didn't then a majority of town seemed ready to actually fully believe and trust Delta as a town!PR there which would have been disastrous. I think in that circumstance if I said nothing then Dragon would have been executed and it'd make subsequently counter-claiming Delta in a future day even more difficult.

...but maybe there is a better play there where I stay hidden and at least get out an investigate n1 before then subsequently counter-claiming Delta day 2? Idk - I wasn't lying earlier when I told Black I'm terrible at game theory - I'll need to ask the SE's what they would have done post-game.