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[RationalMadman]

I don't think agent of chaos would be trolling like this as town. Even though fae may do this regardless, faer controbutions so far have intentionally been designed to aggravate and disturb others, as opposed to gauging reads from reactions.

[RationalMadman]

That said, nobody has towntold at all so far.

[Agent of Chaos]

You accuse me of being mafia?
How do you know that I am mafia and not werewolf?
There is only one way!
You are mafia yourself!

VOTE: Rational Madman

[Enchant]

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The chances are 1/5 if you mean the PR that can catch the type of scum but there's both Cop and Seer regardless if I understand the setup correctly.

So the odds are 40% not 25% but are 20% for the PR that cpuld physically have caught (and we won't know either way if a PR dies Night One unless the other found a guilty or wolf read)

Yep, that's what i meant.

But most effective play for mafia who getting killed then is claim PR which they fear (Mafia claim Cop, Werewolf claim Seer). They dying anyway and have nothing to lose, but can reveal PR. It's still 1vs1 though.

So it's impossible to kill mafia without revealing PR right now, as they WILL fakeclaim, if they are somewhat competent.

[Agent of Chaos]

So fakeclaim VT and I will never get TERMINATED.
Gotcha!

[Enchant]

If Not_Mafia can't control himself and hold back from hammering as town, that is a severe violation. I don't want to be accused of OGI so I won't discuss the implications of that. However, it is 100% anti-town to hammer before the voted has a chance to claim in this setup even if you are one of the two PRs.

Yes. It's anti-town.
No, he still doing that.

We shouldn't cower out of voting just because someone has a meta of hammering as any alignment. It's them who should cower out of doing so.

As long as no one at E-1, we are fine. We can ask claims on E-2 without much danger.


And yes, i am Town.

[Enchant]

So fakeclaim VT and I will never get TERMINATED.
Gotcha!

If voted person claims VT, then we probably need use brains. Mafia very risking with that claim, as they can die anyway with nemesis alive.

You accuse me of being mafia?
How do you know that I am mafia and not werewolf?
There is only one way!
You are mafia yourself!

VOTE: Rational Madman

Honestly, it's same thing for me. Expect for me calling them mafia regardless if they are dogs.

[RationalMadman]

I never called agent of chaos mafia, as opposed to werewolf ever. Fae is lying.

[RationalMadman]

Yep, that's what i meant.

But most effective play for mafia who getting killed then is claim PR which they fear (Mafia claim Cop, Werewolf claim Seer). They dying anyway and have nothing to lose, but can reveal PR. It's still 1vs1 though.

So it's impossible to kill mafia without revealing PR right now, as they WILL fakeclaim, if they are somewhat competent.

The PR can only ever reveal one mafia anyway, since there's no protective role to save them the following night phase.

[RationalMadman]

I am willing to make this day phase myself vs agent of chaos if fae will not cease this trolling. It's detrimental to have faem in the lategame.

[RationalMadman]

I also townread Enchant not for what they said page 1 (or he, pronoun not revealed so I will stick to they) but because they follow up by consistently explaining that they support the lynch today just that E-2 is preferable to E-1 as we have a player with habit of hammering regardless. This shows me also that the discussion of odds was regarding how i stantly wrong things can go if the E-1 outs as a PR.

[RationalMadman]

Instantly*

[xijinping]

Long Live the CCP!!

Greetings all. I think someone expressed a concern about us being a secret hydra and not knowing our mains. While Sirius has not required us to reveal our identities, I'll say this: I have played ~30 games on MS and my other head has 0 experience with forum mafia; he's my RL friend. I'm introducing him to this site via a hydra as a low-commitment way to get him acquainted and decide if he wants to play in games himself.

I will sign my posts with "-Xi" so that you can distinguish us apart. Any post without that will be my other head, unless I forget when submitting and immediately tag on a after-post sig. Hopefully no one has a problem with this, just think of my head as a secret alt and his as a newbie's.

Looking forward to this game!

-Xi

[xijinping]

And also, thanks to everyone who helped fill this game, I know I pushed for it in queue a couple times.

-Xi

[RationalMadman]

Hello, do you have any reads, Xi?

[Enchant]

I don't think agent of chaos would be trolling like this as town. Even though fae may do this regardless, faer controbutions so far have intentionally been designed to aggravate and disturb others, as opposed to gauging reads from reactions.

Did you play with him early?

[RationalMadman]

I did not play with agent of chaos ever unless it's a secret alt. I played many years ago (literally 6 years ago was my most recent game) and grew bored of mafia in general.

I recently got an itch to try it out again and this time wanted to take it a lot more seriously.

[RationalMadman]

I've played on and off on other websites when Mafia was a casual thing, like epicmafia's sandbox on a random alt at times but not really seriously much at all for a long time.

[Enchant]

I got kicked from all epicmafia sandboxes for stupidity, so i dislike epicmafia for nontolerancy and don't want to see this name ever again.

Thx.

[Robert M Hunter]

Hi, thanks for the primer on strategy, I'm noobish and never played a micro before. I thought it would be easier but it seems scarier.

[RationalMadman]

I got kicked from all epicmafia sandboxes for stupidity, so i dislike epicmafia for nontolerancy and don't want to see this name ever again.

Thx.

You interrogated me asking if I have played with Agent of Chaos before.

Agent of Chaos (AoC) has only been on the website since April 18th 2021, how could I have played with this individual before?

I do not know them and honestly the playstyle is basically hardball trolling where fae'd probably do that as either alignment, however since there's no indication of precisely what's being done with reactions to the trolling other than voting me based on a false allegation, I am inclined to scumread AoC.

[RationalMadman]

Hi, thanks for the primer on strategy, I'm noobish and never played a micro before. I thought it would be easier but it seems scarier.

This being the first message is intended to do nothing other than poke fun at me.

Even if you are playing as a casual, to have fun, why would your first post not just be 'hi, I'm here' and somewhat ignoring me?

I very much scumread this opening, it shows you have been reading everything and that your only feedback is you wish I'd try less.

[Robert M Hunter]

I was not being sarcastic.

[Agent of Chaos]

I was.

[Enchant]

I got kicked from all epicmafia sandboxes for stupidity, so i dislike epicmafia for nontolerancy and don't want to see this name ever again.

Thx.

You interrogated me asking if I have played with Agent of Chaos before.

Agent of Chaos (AoC) has only been on the website since April 18th 2021, how could I have played with this individual before?

I do not know them and honestly the playstyle is basically hardball trolling where fae'd probably do that as either alignment, however since there's no indication of precisely what's being done with reactions to the trolling other than voting me based on a false allegation, I am inclined to scumread AoC.

I didn't noticed it. Then yeah, question was dumb. You also probably just noticed that. So... Probably fair there.

As person, who trolling sometimes, i can say, that's neither alignment. Let's see.

I haven't played with anyone here before, should be fun.

Direct tip that he is alt. Because he joined 19 April, it's not like he would play many games for 2 days...
He. Honestly i am bad with pronouns. I'm not sure how to spell Fae/Faer. Explain please.

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It really caught my attention. It's... Looking like trash at first. Just searched for crumbs, and didn't found any, but i damn have feeling there any. So either this is PR or wants appear as one.
...
Or this is just joke post. Can't be sure with this stuff.

So fakeclaim VT and I will never get TERMINATED.
Gotcha!

Legit searching for holes in my thinking, even if in joking manner.

Oh. N_M is in the game? Astonishing, if he is town, we can random-TERMINATE a townie with help of scum!

Enchant, are you town?

I always want ask "What the damn answer you expect" but it's probably... Eh. What the damn answer you expect?!

Either way, i find his play more townie than anti-town