Blitz 3: Dead of Winter Mafia - Game Over

[Makoto Nanaya]

Don't fight for too long though, we only have 3 days.

[pisskop]

That's not how RVS works. RVS is reads-based. It continues for as long as people arent voting for reads-based reasons. And becuae one person claims 'to be out' it doesn't mean that stage is over.

I understand that, and I am better for it.

[Expedience]

UNVOTE: The Jester
VOTE: The Silver Bard

What do you hope to gain by not participating in RVS? I would myself think that RVS is part of getting the game going.

RVS gives zero information. It is only nonsensical fooling around before the games start. In blitz games we cannot afford that.

Do you think I am scum for wanting to end the RVS? I guess yes, since you are voting me.
Why do you think I am scum for wanting to end it?

I generally dislike it when people make comments about how there isn't enough discussion of the type that they want without actually taking steps to create that type of discussion.

So your opinion is that I haven't created the type of discussion I want?

We are now discussing your vote on me, which is no longer RVS. I'd say that is creating the type of discussion I want.

I don't think that you created the type of discussion that you want, considering how you now have a wagon forming on you which doesn't seem particularly desirable.

[The Silver Bard]

UNVOTE: The Jester
VOTE: The Silver Bard

What do you hope to gain by not participating in RVS? I would myself think that RVS is part of getting the game going.

RVS gives zero information. It is only nonsensical fooling around before the games start. In blitz games we cannot afford that.

Do you think I am scum for wanting to end the RVS? I guess yes, since you are voting me.
Why do you think I am scum for wanting to end it?

I generally dislike it when people make comments about how there isn't enough discussion of the type that they want without actually taking steps to create that type of discussion.

So your opinion is that I haven't created the type of discussion I want?

We are now discussing your vote on me, which is no longer RVS. I'd say that is creating the type of discussion I want.

I don't think that you created the type of discussion that you want, considering how you now have a wagon forming on you which doesn't seem particularly desirable.

Having someone vote me for wanting to stop the random votes is probably the most desirable result I can get from stating it. As it gets the discussion going between me and the player who votes me.

You have a reason for voting me, and I can question your reasons, and start making my mind up about you.

So I ask you again. Do you find it scummy that I don't want to random vote? And that I want to end the random vote stage?

Also pisskops vote on me is more of a random vote I guess, and far less interesting. If not correct me pisskop.

[Scorpious]

I can't vote for Pisskop anyway..

the puppies..

[Expedience]

Having someone vote me for wanting to stop the random votes is probably the most desirable result I can get from stating it. As it gets the discussion going between me and the player who votes me.

If that was the most desirable result, was it really a good action to take?

You have a reason for voting me, and I can question your reasons, and start making my mind up about you.

So I ask you again. Do you find it scummy that I don't want to random vote? And that I want to end the random vote stage?

That question is slanted in a way that makes it difficult for me to answer. Instead I'll answer the question "Do you find 14 scummy?".

I find 14 scummy, in part but not entirely because you don't want to end the random vote stage. The fact that you are discouraging RVS is to some extent anti-town, but I can conceivably see why you wouldn't want to do it in the Blitz setup.

As I said in 19, it also had to do with the fact that your post seemed some kind of attempt to guide the conversation in a certain direction by making a "hypocritical mediator type" comment. It could be used by scum to establish themselves as some kind of leader without them actually doing what they ask others to do.

The tone of your post was rather antagonistic as well which encouraged me to vote for you, although I don't think this is scummy.

[Scorpious]

The tone of your post was rather antagonistic as well which encouraged me to vote for you,

you did kinda do that Bard..

[Expedience]

That's not how RVS works. RVS is reads-based. It continues for as long as people arent voting for reads-based reasons. And becuae one person claims 'to be out' it doesn't mean that stage is over.

I understand that, and I am better for it.

I agree with what you're saying although I think you meant "RVS is not reads-based." instead of "RVS is reads-based.".

How do you feel about The Silver Bard's statement asking people to stop random voting?

[gameplay506]

Will read this later. :3

[pisskop]

That's not how RVS works. RVS is reads-based. It continues for as long as people arent voting for reads-based reasons. And becuae one person claims 'to be out' it doesn't mean that stage is over.

I understand that, and I am better for it.

I agree with what you're saying although I think you meant "RVS is not reads-based." instead of "RVS is reads-based.".

How do you feel about The Silver Bard's statement asking people to stop random voting?

That. I'm stll awesome though.

[pisskop]

I think it could be a towny thing, but I want to wait. and see.

[pisskop]

I think it could be a towny thing, but I want to wait. and see.

Because I didmn't get so great by rushing. OC.

[davesaz]

More for tradition's sake than anything else...
VOTE: Davsto

Wow, fast start. TBH getting real content within the first 1-2 pages is refreshing after seeing many games with RVS that goes on for 10+.
I'm working and do not have time to analyze the early content. Maybe in a few hours. Not like I'm known for snap reads anyway.

[Makoto Nanaya]

I think it could be a towny thing, but I want to wait. and see.

Because I didmn't get so great by rushing. OC.

Well with only 3 days, rushing is to be expected. We shall see where this leads.

[Makoto Nanaya]

Before i forget

UNVOTE: Davesto to keep the daves even.

[Scorpious]

I love love love this quicker format...

[Titus]

VC here when I get back.

[davesaz]

Before i forget

UNVOTE: Davesto to keep the daves even.

This pings scum a bit. Are you concerned about balance like this often?

[Makoto Nanaya]

Before i forget

UNVOTE: Davesto to keep the daves even.

This pings scum a bit. Are you concerned about balance like this often?

Only in RVS. Remember my reason for voting him in the first place.

[davesaz]

I can't vote for Pisskop anyway..

the puppies..

Thoughts on Pisskop's posting so far?

[davesaz]

Doesn't 23 acknowledge that you think we're kinda out of RVS now?

[Makoto Nanaya]

Hence dumping a joke vote. I'm not allowed to take an opertunity to joke when I do that?

[Scorpious]

@dav,nothing stands out to me about him,feeling town about him actually.

[davesaz]

My observation on Pisskop is that his alignment is usually opposite my natural read -- the townier he looks, the more likely to be scum.
The way my luck runs, as soon as I switch to reading him that way he'll start acting townie when town.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: No Lynch