Mini 24: Dogmafia, Game over: Mafia wins

[warrior4037]

confirm yada yada (just got back from camping, so obviously hadn't had chance to check site in a couple days.)

hmm...first day...six to lynch

vote:Beaudoin

cus it's the first day and he didnt' defend himself yet.

btw.. haven't seen the movie, don't think I'll have a chance to anytime soon. (not that i don't want to, but that i can't)

[Chiromancer]

Beaudoin, it's

really

not your lucky day.

Vote: Beaudoin

. Four out of six votes. No one kill him yet please.

-Mance

[Beaudoin]

Just so I know, can anyone please tell me why they're voting for me as opposed to, oh, Trevize? Because 4 random votes is, well, quite a lot.

What I'm curious about is Trevize's comment about the Golgotha Shit Demon being a serial killer. Not necessarily for the GSD part of it (my initial reaction to the death was that it was the GSD), but that it is the serial killer. Maybe Trevize knows something we don't?

[rite]

Uh... that was my logical assumption. We had two deaths. I think we can safely assume that the hanging was attributed to the crusading Bartheby/Loki/Possibly Demon Mafia. That leaves another death... logically a death by a serial killer role, because if the GSD can just attack on one night, he/she wouldn't waste it on the first (and the GSD is decidedly unbiased against killing good guys or bad guys, fitting into the serial killer role even better).

I dunno, maybe it's just me

[Beaudoin]

Here are the roles that we can fairly safely assume A) exist and B) are evil:

Bartelby and Loki (the two renegade angels)
Azrael (an angel that was cast out of heaven after the Great War in Heaven, and the person manipulating Bartelby and Loki)
Golgotha Shit Demon (a demon made out of shit)

However, there's some question on what the division of evil is. The GSD was sent by Azrael to kill the good guys (if I remember correctly). So we could have a mafia containing the fallen angels (Bartelby, Loki, and Azrael) and a GSD SK, which makes sense from a pure game perspective, or a mafia containing Bartelby and Loki, and a second containing Azrael and the GSD, if we follow the movie and use the logic that the GSD wouldn't kill its own master AND that Bartelby and Loki did not know they were being used, or the true consequences of their goals, until the end of the movie.

Also, can we hit the suspects over the head with Cardinal Glick's golf clubs? I mean, they are instruments of God. [/joke]

[Chiromancer]

Interesting that Beaudoin hasn't claimed a role yet, I was under the impression that was standard procedure when hit with a random first day bandwagon. Especially in a themed game, when we should know who the major good guys / bad guys are...it would be harder for someone to fake a role. Now there may be a completely legitimate reason (i.e. he's a Doctor equivalent, or something,) but he's not reacting like a normal bandwagoned good Town role would (Aah! Eek! Uncle! Get off me! Cop! Cop! COOOOPPPPPPP!)...instead, we're getting 'helpful' information and a cool, logical "er, why is this bandwagon on me? I don't think I've done anything suspicious." So I'm keeping my vote where it is, thank you very much. I wonder what other roles would be in the game...perhaps Beaudoin would like to give that assessment as well?

[KingPin]

While I understand the whole "defend yourself" argument from Chiromancer, I do not understand the whole I will vote for him then say "please dont kill him."

I dont think that bandwagoning someone then asking for the town not to kill them is cool. In fact by supplying the 4 of 6 votes you are almost tempting the evil ones to jump on and get rid of him.

Now I do understand that, yeah, Beaudoin does need to help himself to avoid being crucified. So on that note:

[/b]FOS: Beaudoin
FOS: Chiromancer[/b]
at least until I have a response or other inspiring avenues to travel

[ambic]

Beaudoin, you have 24 hours. No defense = my vote. Unless something else happens of course.

[Trevize]

Beaudoin, you were posting quite a bit before. I would come up with a defense because we all are pretty much thinking your are this guy =========>

[KingPin]

Okay, so I was rereading the thread... I agree with Chiromancer and his/her point that role claims in such a small themed game will be a great asset LATER in the game. Now to save his neck I think that, YES, help is needed from Beaudoin. The longer we go without a response the larger my suspicion grows.

Beaudoin.... time is growing short for you, the nails have been sharpened and the crown of thorns is ready for its first evil blasphemer... state your case... and prepare to be judged...

[Beaudoin]

but he's not reacting like a normal bandwagoned good Town role would (Aah! Eek! Uncle! Get off me! Cop! Cop! COOOOPPPPPPP!)...instead, we're getting 'helpful' information and a cool, logical "er, why is this bandwagon on me? I don't think I've done anything suspicious."

That's because it's the way I tend to play. Whether good or evil, you don't want to look suspicious, and I see people going "Eek! Uncle! Get off!" as suspicious. Therefore, I don't do that.

But you want a roleclaim? I'm John Doe Jersey, the old guy the triplets beat up at the beginning of the movie. I wasn't told that I house God, but he did tell me that I had a couple of night "protections". He hadn't told me what these "protections" were, but I'm guessing they have strings attached (i.e. a comatose state, weakened defenses against lynchings, etc.).

[KingPin]

Truthfully Beaudoin, I want to believe you. But there is something in the back of my head saying NO, NO, NO. How can a comatose person protect anyone? let-a-lone actually benefit the town? This is a truely harsh spot for the town... Bandwagoning has been the rule on the first day, normally when the heat is turned up someone breaks. You on the other hand are calm and persistant, and I like that in a townie...

therefore after much debate and consideration, I am going to go after the only silent member....

VOTE: NIGHT STALKER

to continue the first day information seeking!!

[Chiromancer]

Blast. Grr grr grr grr grr.

I must gracefully (or perhaps not so gracefully) bow out of this game, and request that the moderator find a replacement for me. I have received information about the game which I am not supposed to have through a simple error. I do not intend to reveal it in the thread or to my successor, but having it alone compromises the integrity of the setup.

Thank you. Perhaps I will see some of you in another mini game.

Mance.

[ambic]

Wow I wish I was that honest If I ever accidentally recieved info Id milk it for it all it was worth.

[DoomCow]

Blast. Grr grr grr grr grr.

I must gracefully (or perhaps not so gracefully) bow out of this game, and request that the moderator find a replacement for me. I have received information about the game which I am not supposed to have through a simple error. I do not intend to reveal it in the thread or to my successor, but having it alone compromises the integrity of the setup.

Thank you. Perhaps I will see some of you in another mini game.

Mance.

Very well, I have asked the next one in the list if he wants the place.

also, time for a

VOTE COUNT

:

Lucresia 1 (Trevize)
Beaudoin 4 (Polotet, Rite, Warrior4037, Chiromancer)
Trevize 1 (Ambic)
Night Stalker 2 (Lucresia, Kingpin)

[DoomCow]

JesterNL wil be replacing Chiromancer.

[KingPin]

Okay, this day seems to be dragging on.
Lets have some conversations!!! Speculations!!!

[Polotet]

*Doubts Beaudoin's role claim.*

[Lucresia]

I wasn't told that I house God, but he did tell me that I had a couple of night "protections". He hadn't told me what these "protections" were, but I'm guessing they have strings attached (i.e. a comatose state, weakened defenses against lynchings, etc.).

Alright...this doesn't sound very believable to me..I don't know about everyone else, but I don't think you wouldn't be told the main part of your role/ability...so...as day 1...this is enough for me to go on.

Unvote: Night Stalker
Vote: Beaudoin

[warrior4037]

Beaudoin's role claim seems unlikely to me, based on the fact that this character appears to have such a small role in the film. It seems unlikely that such a small role would make it into the game. (But I will admit that I haven't seen the movie, so if I'm missing some info, I apologize and will take correction)

[KingPin]

Warrior,
you are correct to assume that John Doe Jersey had a small role in the film. Another interesting point from the film, By killing John Doe

GOD

was released!!! Don't know if this is of importance?

[rite]

God isn't getting to get killed. I have a feeling that the "protections" he is talking about apply to himself-- for a while, at least, he's not going to be able to die. This meshes well for keeping with a story line that DoomCow is probably following. Don't know if John Doe's safe from lynching, or only night kills, but either the truth or his BSing is forcing me to

unvote: Beaudoin

.

Here's hoping that we'll get a deadline soon so that something will actually happen around here...
Rite

[Beaudoin]

God isn't getting to get killed. I have a feeling that the "protections" he is talking about apply to himself-- for a while, at least, he's not going to be able to die.

Yeah, that's what I meant. And like I said, my protections most likely have stipulations on them (if I'm attacked, then I'm told I can't speak the next day, or it only takes half the votes necessary to lynch me, etc). In the movie, John Doe Jersey was attacked in the first 5 minutes by Azrael's triplet thugs, but didn't die and was put on life support. Thus, with my being attacked I most likely would be weakened in some way. Also, I wasn't told I was protected from lynches, only night kills.

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't think you wouldn't be told the main part of your role/ability

Whereas I've learned not to trust deceptively simple roles in theme games. Besides, one could argue that my night protection *was* the main part of my role. The possible stipulations are just flavor that meshes well with my role and the theme.

[Lucresia]

Hmm well that makes a lot mroe sense. I think I just didn't understand what you meant.

unvote: Beaudoin

Back to my original vote, but silence is added to the reason for this vote now.

vote: Night Stalker

[jesternl]

OK, jumping in fresh to replace whoever.... Will you people stop making such long posts, It's so much work to read...