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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:20 pm

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In post 2473, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't think you are town don't worry
Then why did you unvote me?

Why did you not try to get Naerys and Drew back on me?

Why did you turn on Doctor Drew rather than try and rally Naerys and Drew onto me?

I'm under the impression a town-STD would care enough about his reads to not be dissuaded by my wagon's collapse and would double-down on me.
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:22 pm

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In post 2471, Ranger wrote:
In post 2463, Alianna wrote:
VC 4.03
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Ranger (3):
Save the Dragons, Doctor Drew, Naerys
[E-1]
In post 2465, Naerys wrote:VOTE: drew
In post 2467, Doctor Drew wrote:VOTE: Nae
In post 2468, Save The Dragons wrote:UNVOTE: I guess
I'm confused and alarmed.

How did I go from three votes to zero votes in the span of five posts in one hour?

I'm second-guessing everything but I don't know what it means. Something suddenly feels wrong and I don't know what.
What's really alarming is that I was considering hammering you but thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:23 pm

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But that sequence of vote was weird. Black already said she would hammer Ranger, so Ranger was as good as dead. Why?
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:23 pm

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VOTE: drew

Do what you want

Pedit: what are you talking about

Why would I just sit on you

I've already cased you plenty

It didn't convince anyone because everyone stopped voting you

I'm over it

Maybe it's drew I don't know
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:23 pm

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VOTE: ranger

Changed my mind
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:24 pm

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I'm just gonna not help anyone vote anyone else

I am right

Please vote Ranger

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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:25 pm

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Drew changing his vote as a response to Naerys is normal. I guess STD's change of vote is immaterial to the situation. Or is it?
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:26 pm

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Can you just give an honest explanation of what was going through your mind when you posted 2468, STD? This is not a gotcha moment I really want to know.
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:26 pm

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Please vote ranger
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:31 pm

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No one else was voting Ranger I didn't see the point

I was steeling myself for giving up on my conviction to think about an alternative

Ranger reminded me I really really want to vote her out
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:45 pm

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But Black said she would. Do you not believe her?
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:48 pm

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VC 4.04
Votecount 4.04


Doctor Drew (2):
davesaz, Naerys
[E-2]

T-Bone (1):
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Naerys (1):
Doctor Drew
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With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-02-12 20:47:19).

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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:57 pm

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In post 2485, T-Bone wrote: But Black said she would. Do you not believe her?
That's one vote
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:31 pm

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Explain how being concerned about the speed of someone else's wagon is scum motivated.
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:15 pm

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In post 2477, T-Bone wrote:But that sequence of vote was weird. Black already said she would hammer Ranger, so Ranger was as good as dead. Why?
My question exactly. I don't understand. It's not what I was expecting from my Doctor Drew push. I expected my wagon to still go through, or if Drew did go through, for my wagon to remain.

Especially after my initial push received no support. You hadn't voted Doctor Drew, yet he got to l-1 twice and would've been hammered by STD if not for my unvote.

I don't know what it means.
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:23 pm

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In post 2478, Save The Dragons wrote:what are you talking about
Why would I just sit on you
I've already cased you plenty
It didn't convince anyone because everyone stopped voting you
I was at l-1. davesaz indicated he may swap to hammer me. Black already indicated she was going to hammer me. Apparently T-Bone had interest too.

I've seen you on numerous occasions as town see your preferred wagon lose votes, and your response was to engage the people who had unvoted, ask them to return, and explain why.

I would expect you to talk to Drew about why he shouldn't pursue Naerys and explain why Naerys is town.
I would expect you to ask Naerys to return, maybe explaining why Drew was town if you believe it, or if you don't then explaining why I am a higher priority.

I would only expect you to unvote if it was accompanied by a vote swap with you scumreading the player you're swapping to, even if less so than me.

It's alarming to me and I'm trying to understand why you would give up there when there was no reason to.
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:31 pm

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I gave up
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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:32 pm

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I didn't care anymore
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:32 pm

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I can't convince people of shit
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:32 pm

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So it didn't matter what I did
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm

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I figured fuck it maybe drew is the scum and I'm just off
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm

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I don't know
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:33 pm

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I don't fucking know
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:35 pm

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In post 2481, T-Bone wrote:Drew changing his vote as a response to Naerys is normal. I guess STD's change of vote is immaterial to the situation. Or is it?
I am questioning everything including you right now.

I agree, Drew voting Naerys is normal regardless of his alignment. It's a small sign Drew's potentially down, perhaps the first in the game. However, the overall picture for him still suggests scum. He lacks his bite and the lack of interest in his slot the entire game is suspect. Everyone stated they could vote him; I thought people weren't going to follow through yet apparently they did, so now that's a concern.

I think Naerys's swap was probably still town, although I'm not sure. There's concern it was a strategic swap because Drewtown here would ensure a scum win tomorrow, although overall I think I lean towards this being paranoia and Naerys being town. She may be my second-strongest townread, behind davesaz now.

You seem oddly passive right now since you are not under pressure, and while you're providing some reasonable commentary, you're not giving any more definitive analysis and concrete conclusions. You've avoided taking sides and voting, despite having a preference to suspect Doctor Drew. I think I still lean town, but I'm worried the masons game-long suspicion of you may have merit, so I'm not as confident as I was.

Save The Dragons is my main focus here, as I need to figure out his mindset. If I can see his thoughts as town, he is likely still town, yet I'm struggling to understand his view.

Overall, current thoughts;
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{Save the Dragons, Black}
{Doctor Drew}

Notably the bottom tiers aren't scumreads, just least town rn.
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:36 pm

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